Am I the ONLY one that thought Clint had a very good game???

[BHDAU1 222]

And proved that he should have been the starter from day 1? That was the best QB performance we have had all season. He had that interception at the end of the game when it was almost out of reach and it was a hurry up, pressure filled, frustrating time in the VERY FIRST GAME he has started since last year!! I honestly think that had Mosely been the starter since day one we would have not only won that game, but would be sitting at 50% at least. Had Clint already had more experience this season he probably wouldve handled that pressure better nad not thrown the INT. I have looked at a bunch of threads and keep reading our QB play was terrible. I thought QB play was very good! He tucked and ran for positive yards instead of taking sacks or throwing INTs all game and made great throw after throw. Our OC is the one to blame for the loss. He is DOWNRIGHT TERRIBLE!! WHY ON EARTH he would pull Clint to run one of those dumb up the middle plays with Wallace every time it seemed Auburn was getting in an offenseive rythum was beyond me and even the play by play guys. It kept putting AU behind the sticks just about every single time he called that stupid, dumb, ridiculous play call.

[GoAU 1,560]

I will agree thE it was the best QB performance we have seen all year. He had a good streak of completions, and had a couple of good runs. The INT was not a good decision however. The OL didn't really give good protection, which made Clients performance that much better.

Will agree the stupid wildcat, which just tells the whole world to load the box because we are 100% going to run, got us behind the sticks every time but once.

All in all, agree Clings should be the starter, but still not solid enough to be the starter on any "A" level SEC team. Not a knock on Clings, he's giving it his all, but CSL isbt doing him any favors or putting him in a position to succeed.

[FormerlySec38Row34 56]

Clint actually didn't have a bad game, but the interception was a forced ball that was not caused by pressure. He locked onto the receiver and the linebacker just read his eyes and jumped the route. He never let it develop. This is the same issue going back to last year. Same player, different OC's.

Wallace had a couple of pretty good runs, but it was very obvious what was coming when he was put in and it's a tribute to his athleticism that he was able to do what he did. I hope he doesn't get lead down the same road as Kodi and Kiehl.

[BHDAU1 222]

CSL is one of the few OCs in the country using the new break thru method of play calling strategy where you call a play that works and then never call it again, rather instead call one of the same six plays we have used every game this season that has proven to rarely, if ever work. No one yet has been able to figure out what he is trying to accomplish, but he assures us this is all part of his plan..............

[aubaseball 2,394]

So far...no you are not. looks like two of you believe he had a good day. I thought it was average. Also, thought KF could have had the same game. there was nothing great about CM's performance. And the interception with over 4 minutes to go was terrible. We were down two scores with the ball around the 20. Awful pass!!

[FormerlySec38Row34 56]

Actually, it was the 35, but you are quite correct in your assessment. No it wasn't great, but it was good enough to get a win until that play. I think Frazier could have had a good day as well, but he is supposedly injured, according to some, and the fact of the matter is that there were/are some play-calling sequences that somewhat defy logic, but I'm no OC, or even a coach.

[aubaseball 2,394]

thought we were talking strictly on QB play not OC play calling. that's a crime to call it offensive football.

[FormerlySec38Row34 56]

To me, they're intertwined. If a QB doesn't believe in the plays being called, there's going to be a problem. Also, it looked like some of the plays were being changed at the line, but I could be wrong. We need a QB that has the ability to read a D and get into a play that will work. Either our QB's aren't allowed to audible, or they suck at it. I don't know which it is.

[johnnyAU 3,564]

"Am I the ONLY one that thought Clint had a very good game???"

Well, it's pretty sad when one of our QB's doesn't turn it over 5 times, but still has more picks than TD's, he is thought to have a good game. It would have been poor or lackluster for anyone else.

[BHDAU1 222]

I dont think KF would have had the same kind of day. Its possible, but I think unlikely given his past performances. Several of those short passes that Clint threw perfectly allowing the WR to turn upfield and gain additional yardage would have been incomplete bc they were too far off target or he would never have thrown the ball to begin with bc it wasnt the one reciever he looked at until he took a sack. Its been my impression that the passes that KF does complete are rarely ever thrown in a way that the recipient can do anything other than catch them while falling down or they have to stop or slow down to catch them giving Defense time to get there for an immediate tackle. By far the BIGGEST thing that I was happy with was how Clint either threw on time accuately, checked down to other WR/TE, or simply tucked and ran the ball for positive yardage instead of taking sack after sack like KF. Make no mistake about it, AUs O-line wasnt doing him any favors either. There was only a handfull of times that CM had the neccessary time that a QB needs to go thru all their progressions. The things he did very well were almost always under pressure and/or duress.

[BHDAU1 222]

He might have had more picks than TDs but that is only bc we ran the ball in when he marched us down the field into the redzone, something that hasnt been done that much in a game as it was yesterday all season long with KF as QB. I think had CSL called a pass play to score a TD that Clint would have thrown it for a TD.

[AU-24 3,058]

And proved that he should have been the starter from day 1? That was the best QB performance we have had all season. He had that interception at the end of the game when it was almost out of reach and it was a hurry up, pressure filled, frustrating time in the VERY FIRST GAME he has started since last year!! I honestly think that had Mosely been the starter since day one we would have not only won that game, but would be sitting at 50% at least. Had Clint already had more experience this season he probably wouldve handled that pressure better nad not thrown the INT. I have looked at a bunch of threads and keep reading our QB play was terrible. I thought QB play was very good! He tucked and ran for positive yards instead of taking sacks or throwing INTs all game and made great throw after throw. Our OC is the one to blame for the loss. He is DOWNRIGHT TERRIBLE!! WHY ON EARTH he would pull Clint to run one of those dumb up the middle plays with Wallace every time it seemed Auburn was getting in an offenseive rythum was beyond me and even the play by play guys. It kept putting AU behind the sticks just about every single time he called that stupid, dumb, ridiculous play call.

Dude, we lost to Ole Miss by 21 points! Ole Miss! Figure it out yourself!

[johnnyAU 3,564]

He might have had more picks than TDs but that is only bc we ran the ball in when he marched us down the field into the redzone, something that hasnt been done that much in a game as it was yesterday all season long with KF as QB. I think had CSL called a pass play to score a TD that Clint would have thrown it for a TD.

Yeah, like he did last week right? Oops.

[AUGradinTX 0]

I do think Kiehl could have done the same job. It's my opinion that Tre was the reason we looked better in the first half. He's our best weapon. He's like a pinball bouncing off defenders and is rarely brought down by the first guy. He ran it 18 times. I think next game we should up that to 25-30 and see what happens. This is easily done by keeping Wallace on the sidelines.

[PCBAuburnaFan 1]

I wouldn't say great because that interception was ridiculously stupid, but he managed the game well. The bad snap and the lucky run are what killed us

[BHDAU1 222]

To me, they're intertwined. If a QB doesn't believe in the plays being called, there's going to be a problem. Also, it looked like some of the plays were being changed at the line, but I could be wrong. We need a QB that has the ability to read a D and get into a play that will work. Either our QB's aren't allowed to audible, or they suck at it. I don't know which it is.

Exactly!! Yet another point I was trying to make about how impressive it was to me that Mosely played so well. Between CSL jerking him out of the game right when they were getting some momentum to run that stupid play with Wallace, or CSL running the ball instead of continuing to let CM throw the ball when Ole Miss couldnt stop it, Mosely really wasnt getting any help from the coaches. Also I think that probably either one of the QBs is capable of doing some basic audibles but I dont think they are allowed to by the coaching staff, which is a real shame. The team standing at LOS and staring over at the sideline till the play clock almost runs out every single play is beyond annoying!!! Especially when the result of that wait is one of the garbage plays the OC comes up with!! lol

[tigerjeffm 0]

You are talking about the Auburn game yesterday?

[BHDAU1 222]

And proved that he should have been the starter from day 1? That was the best QB performance we have had all season. He had that interception at the end of the game when it was almost out of reach and it was a hurry up, pressure filled, frustrating time in the VERY FIRST GAME he has started since last year!! I honestly think that had Mosely been the starter since day one we would have not only won that game, but would be sitting at 50% at least. Had Clint already had more experience this season he probably wouldve handled that pressure better nad not thrown the INT. I have looked at a bunch of threads and keep reading our QB play was terrible. I thought QB play was very good! He tucked and ran for positive yards instead of taking sacks or throwing INTs all game and made great throw after throw. Our OC is the one to blame for the loss. He is DOWNRIGHT TERRIBLE!! WHY ON EARTH he would pull Clint to run one of those dumb up the middle plays with Wallace every time it seemed Auburn was getting in an offenseive rythum was beyond me and even the play by play guys. It kept putting AU behind the sticks just about every single time he called that stupid, dumb, ridiculous play call.

Dude, we lost to Ole Miss by 21 points! Ole Miss! Figure it out yourself!

And proved that he should have been the starter from day 1? That was the best QB performance we have had all season. He had that interception at the end of the game when it was almost out of reach and it was a hurry up, pressure filled, frustrating time in the VERY FIRST GAME he has started since last year!! I honestly think that had Mosely been the starter since day one we would have not only won that game, but would be sitting at 50% at least. Had Clint already had more experience this season he probably wouldve handled that pressure better nad not thrown the INT. I have looked at a bunch of threads and keep reading our QB play was terrible. I thought QB play was very good! He tucked and ran for positive yards instead of taking sacks or throwing INTs all game and made great throw after throw. Our OC is the one to blame for the loss. He is DOWNRIGHT TERRIBLE!! WHY ON EARTH he would pull Clint to run one of those dumb up the middle plays with Wallace every time it seemed Auburn was getting in an offenseive rythum was beyond me and even the play by play guys. It kept putting AU behind the sticks just about every single time he called that stupid, dumb, ridiculous play call.

Dude, we lost to Ole Miss by 21 points! Ole Miss! Figure it out yourself!

DUDE, I ALREADY HAVE THUS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT MOSELY! if this level of stupidity is what you bring to this thread please go somewhere else. Your comment didnt add anything of value to the conversation.

[TheBlueVue 177]

hard to get to feeling too good about "improved play" at QB when we lost the game to a team that hasn't won an SEC game in 3 years. This team is the worst Auburn team Ive seen in over 40 years. I cant a find single aspect of this teams play that is at a winning level. They will certainly NOT beat Vanderbilt or any other SEC team this year. If you had told me this was going to happen preseason I would've told you that you'd lost your mind.... hard to believe this bad this fast

[telling tiger 156]

For a half or more accurately a quarter, we moved like we haven't all year on offense, offensive miscues also cost us some points, that changed the direction of the game a couple of times. Fumble for a TD, int's, none of these are news to anyone who watched. However if that is the performance to decide who is the starting QB, I'll either withhold or cast in favor of Wallace. KF hasn't shown the ability to pass without extremely strong protection and CM isn't very mobile. Rock and a hard place. Very uncomfortable.

[Dr_AUTiger 0]

IMO, Keihl Frazier would have had same kind of game yesterday. We are talking about Olemiss, which is different from all other teams we played till now because Olemiss has very small defensive players in size. So our Oline gave a better protection to QB upto some point. If Keihl Frazier comes back and starts against a high school team and scores tonnes of points would you think he is better? may be not because it also depends on whom we are playing. However, I don't understand one point, if they are using Jonathan Wallace as a wild cat quarterback and making him run why can't they do it with Keihl Frazier? I thought Keihl Frazier is dual threat Quarterback. If Keihl Frazier can't pass why can't they utilize his running ability?

I don't know about you guys, but I work at a place where I am surrounded by 6 SEC rivals around my office.. I have to face the embarassment every day at work because of the way we are playing. Damn it sucks this year..

[johnnyAU 3,564]

Clint did not have a bad game yesterday, but our standards have fallen to rock bottom if we start thinking that performance was good. Was it good for him? Maybe so. Was it a good overall performance? No.

After what, 3 years or so in the league:

1) He still can't throw the ball away

2) He still can't avoid sacks

3) He still can't hit his check-down

4) He still stares down his recievers

5) He still throws too many interceptions

6) He still falls apart under pressure

I'll give you this: He did make a few good throws and he made quite a nice run for a first down. Frankly, I didn't think he had it in him.

Does that qualify for a good outing? For our QB's this season...sure. It just doesn't cut it anywhere else.

[aubaseball 2,394]

I believe you have to evaluate who the team the guys are playing also. Yesterday, was Ole Siss. A really bad team that we make look normal. what I think has happened is, CSL has tried to turn KF into a pocket QB. Stressing to him to stay in the pocket, check down on the receiver reads, etc. look at Ole Siss' QB, nothing great, just steady. I wasn't saying the the OC and QB aren't connected. CSL biggest problem is not letting KF run the spread. Why in the hell is JW running it. An offense is suppose to make the defense guess what play is going to be called, not ours. When JW is in the game it is a run with no threat to throw. That is high school football. Better yet, grade school football. KF is the better QB. he is in the wrong system.

[johnnyAU 3,564]

Can anyone answer this question? Why won't anyone let Wallace pass the freaking ball?

It wouldn't matter if he doesn't have a canon arm, he would obviously surprise the heck out of the defense by doing it. Heck, what difference would it make if he did throw a pick?

Have you seen the numbers for the QB's we ARE letting throw the ball?

I'm with Andre Ware. If you're only going to let him run, then just let the other QB hand it to Mason instead. This one play and out scenario is mind boggling. Let him have a series or two and open up the playbook or you have wasted his redshirt. I mean, what could it possibly hurt at this point????

[AuburnGrad97 37]

Yes, Mr. Mosely, you are the only one that thinks that.

Sorry, you just can't put whip cream on dogs--t and call it a dessert. It's still dogs--t.