Does someone have to go?

[bg5 536]

I know the popular thing right now is to try and figure out who would be Auburn next coach/coaches but lets look at the situation. We have an offense where the players have been recruited to run a totally different style of offense( so is that all on the Offensive Cord.). We didn't have a lot of talent on defense and what we do have is young (so is that all on the Def. Cord.) Chizik is two years removed from a National Championship and all of the complaints last year were that the O and D were bad so we needed to change things up, so he did. Now since he brought two new Cords. and things didn't change over night everyone is saying we need to clean house. I'm not sure about the offense but what I worry about is that is we fire Chizik and CVG it could set us back two or three more years. With the guys we have committted on Def. at least to me it's worth keeping CVG for another year to give him a chance to get things turned around. I really don't see how you can fire Chizik either when he went out and did exactly what everyone said he should do at the end of last year. Don't get me wrong I am not hppy with our current situation and I do think the coaches could do a better job but I'm also not sure if cleaning houuse is really the answer. Just my two cents.

[mec814 0]

These forums are the wrong place to ask that question as usually 90% are disgruntled fans.

With Auburn's record this year the numbers are greater!

[Wrights_Mill_Road 2]

i ask you, does someone have to stay?

[TheBlueVue 177]

I dont see any downside to getting rid of all of them. I dont see Auburn winning a conference game this year, so, how far can a team fall from there? Look, I like these guys a lot but in the end, they gotta at least do a respectable job. I dont see that happening right now. Ive heard all the excuse and if thats the way Auburn wants to go, then so be it. Seems like an awful lot of money has been thrown at what has not even turned out to be a mediocre program but thats just my opinion.Four years later THIS is what we get? Im sorry folks, I just dont see ANY excuse that will allow for that, especially given the recruiting success Auburn has supposedly had the last 3 years.!

[1auburn1 1,055]

Yes Coach Loeffler, you must leave now.

[TeBoneAU 87]

IMO the answer is absolutely YES! I can't dream of a good enough exuse for the CONSTANT lack of play of this team.

With the talent available and adequate depth at most positions there is no reason IMO other than coaching for this team

to look as inept as it has most of this year. Development of players from high school to college falls directly on the coaches

shoulders. I understand that some players don't pan-out per their ratings but an entire team with multiple issues from multiple

positions points to coaching.

[jvilletiger 0]

Yes Coach Loeffler, you must leave now.

Key word being now...

[PoetTiger 1,842]

The players are not an issue, CGM was able to use Tubby players in his offense and a dead arm Chris Todd set td records. The defense is coming around but is overexposed because the offense can not score points consistently or maintain drives.....simply put the offense is not getting it done...too basic and simple to shut down

[DANSBY 0]

I have never been a "Fire the coach" torch and pitchfork kind of guy, but after this weekend, it is obvious that there is a disconnect between the staff and the players. We have now been embarrassed two straight weeks by first year coaches. It sucked losing to Clemson and MS St, but looking back, these are two programs that have had some coaching stability over the past few years and have been improving. Losing to LSU sucked, but the guys came to play and it was a great atmosphere...LSU was simply better. These last two losses, are just too much, no excuse. There is no reason why we should go to Ole Miss, with better players, and get shoved around like we did. The talent that we recruit and sign each February, is not translating over to the talent we put on the field each week. There is a disconnect. It is broken and it needs to be fixed.

And I definitely don't get the knock on Loeffler. IMO, it's execution, not play calling that is the problem.

[autigeremt 6,119]

I have never been a "Fire the coach" torch and pitchfork kind of guy, but after this weekend, it is obvious that there is a disconnect between the staff and the players. We have now been embarrassed two straight weeks by first year coaches. It sucked losing to Clemson and MS St, but looking back, these are two programs that have had some coaching stability over the past few years and have been improving. Losing to LSU sucked, but the guys came to play and it was a great atmosphere...LSU was simply better. These last two losses, are just too much, no excuse. There is no reason why we should go to Ole Miss, with better players, and get shoved around like we did. The talent that we recruit and sign each February, is not translating over to the talent we put on the field each week. There is a disconnect. It is broken and it needs to be fixed.

And I definitely don't get the knock on Loeffler. IMO, it's execution, not play calling that is the problem.

Play calling in the second half of games is an issue, along with execution.

[Bathel 50]

The last time AU started off 1-5 the coach resigned and he was 38-12 in his first 5 years prior to that start ... just saying....

[PoetTiger 1,842]

Hard to execute when the defense knows exactly what you are going to do...

[AU-24 3,060]

These forums are the wrong place to ask that question as usually 90% are disgruntled fans.

With Auburn's record this year the numbers are greater!

How should we act this year?

[miska_maniac 0]

These forums are the wrong place to ask that question as usually 90% are disgruntled fans.

With Auburn's record this year the numbers are greater!

How should we act this year?

That is a very good question. I cannot understand this push from some on various Auburn message boards to be nothing but positive. I'm sorry but 1-5 with only an overtime victory over ULM is not acceptable. I have nothing really positive to say about our team because there's nothing positive going on with the team on Saturday. I can't watch practice. I can't see these kids in the classroom. The only evidence I have is what it put on the field on Saturdays.

I see nothing to be excited about with this team and Chizik has lost this team completely. I'm not sure any of these underclassmen will ever buy into his program again. I say yes, somebody has to go starting with Jay Jacobs and from there moving on to Gene Chizik and Mike Pelton and take Thigpen from linebackers and put him in Lolley's spot. I think this is the best idea for Auburn to start turning the corner. I'm not saying stop there. I'm simply saying that's the beginning with many possible moves needing to considered once those moves are made.

[PowerOfDixieland 3,118]

That is a very good question. I cannot understand this push from some on various Auburn message boards to be nothing but positive. I'm sorry but 1-5 with only an overtime victory over ULM is not acceptable. I have nothing really positive to say about our team because there's nothing positive going on with the team on Saturday. I can't watch practice. I can't see these kids in the classroom. The only evidence I have is what it put on the field on Saturdays.

I see nothing to be excited about with this team and Chizik has lost this team completely. I'm not sure any of these underclassmen will ever buy into his program again. I say yes, somebody has to go starting with Jay Jacobs and from there moving on to Gene Chizik and Mike Pelton and take Thigpen from linebackers and put him in Lolley's spot. I think this is the best idea for Auburn to start turning the corner. I'm not saying stop there. I'm simply saying that's the beginning with many possible moves needing to considered once those moves are made.

I was in that boat until two weeks ago. I am now looking for a life raft. To continue doing things the same (and with the same people) and expect different results, well you know....

[IronMan70 3,271]

I haven't seen many people wanting to get rid of BVG in fact just the opposite. Like me, most people think we better not let him go for a number of reasons.

[aubaseball 2,405]

Execution? Really? I took my nephew to the game saturday, and he has not seen AU play this year. He is not a fan of AU or of any college team. When number 12 entered the game, he would tell me, "they are going to run the speed sweep with him or 23 getting the ball. that is grade school football.

[Farmer Brown 2,385]

It was at this same point that Terry Tater Tot Bowden resigned. That would be nice if Chizik did the same.

[AU64 10,122]

Loeffler is the one. Just browsing some stats and noticed that AU is averaging about 60 plays per game for the season...ran 60 against Ole Miss and which was par for the course this year. Did we ever run as few as 60 plays in a game during the Gus era?

Meanwhile TAMU is averaging almost 80 plays per game in their new offense....and even Ole Miss and Vandy are averaging close to 70 plays per game.

Is there any evidence at all that this slow down offense is helping the defense?

[DANSBY 0]

Execution? Really? I took my nephew to the game saturday, and he has not seen AU play this year. He is not a fan of AU or of any college team. When number 12 entered the game, he would tell me, "they are going to run the speed sweep with him or 23 getting the ball. that is grade school football.

What is your nephew doing this Saturday?

So I'm assuming he didn't see KF hold the ball too long and take unnecessary sacks in the first few games, or see the INTs, or see the OL whiff on blocks against ARK, or see Trovon catch the ball 3 yds out of bounds, or see KF miss a wide open #23 running down the sideline against LSU, or watch see 2 INTs in the end zone against ARK, or see negative passing yards in the first half against MSU, or see fumble after fumble from the backs....I guess he did see the center snap the ball over the QBs head, and he did see #15 throw a terrible INT at the worst possible time in the game Sat. This was more what I was thinking about when I said execution.

[miska_maniac 0]

Execution? Really? I took my nephew to the game saturday, and he has not seen AU play this year. He is not a fan of AU or of any college team. When number 12 entered the game, he would tell me, "they are going to run the speed sweep with him or 23 getting the ball. that is grade school football.

What is your nephew doing this Saturday?

So I'm assuming he didn't see KF hold the ball too long and take unnecessary sacks in the first few games, or see the INTs, or see the OL whiff on blocks against ARK, or see Trovon catch the ball 3 yds out of bounds, or see KF miss a wide open #23 running down the sideline against LSU, or watch see 2 INTs in the end zone against ARK, or see negative passing yards in the first half against MSU, or see fumble after fumble from the backs....I guess he did see the center snap the ball over the QBs head, and he did see #15 throw a terrible INT at the worst possible time in the game Sat. This was more what I was thinking about when I said execution.

There is no doubt that the offense has failed to execute at key times. However, the play calling on offense has been atrocious at key times too. Both of them have been awful at the most important moments of the game.

[BaldDisciple 0]

Loeffler is the one. Just browsing some stats and noticed that AU is averaging about 60 plays per game for the season...ran 60 against Ole Miss and which was par for the course this year. Did we ever run as few as 60 plays in a game during the Gus era?

Meanwhile TAMU is averaging almost 80 plays per game in their new offense....and even Ole Miss and Vandy are averaging close to 70 plays per game.

Is there any evidence at all that this slow down offense is helping the defense?

I still fail to see how CSL forgot how to call plays since he left Temple. Kinda like Roof forgot how to call plays when he got here. There is only one common denominator.

[SphyNxXx 83]

CSL coached under an offensive mind at Temple. It would be like Rhett under Gus.

I really think that we are about to run Chizik off to bring the Gus Bus back. Todays article by Phillip Marshall is already setting the stage for it. I also think we will lose the fewest recruits by getting Gus and it would be a fairly easy transition for the players.

[taylojo 0]

Loeffler is the one. Just browsing some stats and noticed that AU is averaging about 60 plays per game for the season...ran 60 against Ole Miss and which was par for the course this year. Did we ever run as few as 60 plays in a game during the Gus era?

Meanwhile TAMU is averaging almost 80 plays per game in their new offense....and even Ole Miss and Vandy are averaging close to 70 plays per game.

Is there any evidence at all that this slow down offense is helping the defense?

I think the gap in plays per game are due to the unbalanced turnover ratio. We give the opponent a few extra offensive drives per game.

[passthebiscuits 6,208]

I've met Gus and hes fairly committed to the ChiZ. No way he is coming back to take over after his buddy. They're not besties, but they are close enough that Gus wouldn't want the label of turncoat. SL is gone seasons end and ChiZ gets another year. Thats what im hearing. no way JJ or Tim Jackson go anywhere. Ps, Tims job is one that I wish I had, and he is super creepy.