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I am hoping for Kris Frost to be the linebacker we expect him to be. We need him to step up for the new coaches and be a leader. We need team leaders.

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IMO Being taught proper fundamentals will teach improve this same personell group immensely. I can't imagine ALL of the highly rated guys that signed with Auburn are busts. Really quality programs were recruiting them too. Hopefully this staff can instill the fundamentals *fingers crossed*. I also think we will be just fine off with Cassanova/Frost.

Quick question, is the defense going to be primarily only playing 2 LBs + Spur? If so what does that make the LB depth chart like if there are all those guys fighting for 2 spots?

If you could combine Chizik's recruiting with Tuberville's player development...WHAT?!?!

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IMO Being taught proper fundamentals will teach improve this same personell group immensely. I can't imagine ALL of the highly rated guys that signed with Auburn are busts. Really quality programs were recruiting them too. Hopefully this staff can instill the fundamentals *fingers crossed*. I also think we will be just fine off with Cassanova/Frost.

Quick question, is the defense going to be primarily only playing 2 LBs + Spur? If so what does that make the LB depth chart like if there are all those guys fighting for 2 spots?

If you could combine Chizik's recruiting with Tuberville's player development...WHAT?!?!

My guess would be Holland/ McKinzy for the ILB, Frost for the OLB and Garrett for the Spur. Backups Toney/Flowers for OLB Mitchell/King for Spur.
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Forgive me if this has been discussed already, but has there been any mention of Anthony Swain playing the "spur" position? Honestly, I couldn't remember if he was still on the team, but I thought he might be a good fit for it.

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To the OP, no. As I recall, Frost came to campus a classic 4-3 OLB. He spent some time practicing and learning the MLB spot this past spring but he spent the vast majority of his time outside. When he did play in 2012, he played outside - I believe at the WLB spot.

Can he play inside? Probably, but I think he needs some time to bulk up. Last I checked, I thought I saw him at around 230 or 235. That's not terrible size but it probably needs to be a little bigger to play ILB in this defense. But then again, I'm no expert on the 4-2-5. I think its more an ideal than anything else. If Frost steps it up and shows why he was a 5 star to begin with, he can earn a starting spot. With the new staff, I'd say he, McKinzy, and Holland are going to duke it out for the 2 spots this spring.

As far as Swain is concerned - I'd love it if he could play the spur position but I'm not sure he's going to be the guy. He played safety at Gadsden but was recruited as a LB because of his frame. If I'm not mistaken, Swain bulked up a bit too much when he got here and he's been working on trimming down and refining his approach. The point of the 2 "outside linebackers" in this defense is to provide excellent coverage and recovery skills while presenting a basic 4-4 look. As such, true safeties are the best fit for both of those positions - they don't need to be too terribly big and they must have great speed and coverage skills. Swain may not fit that bill. I think Brandon King was specifically recruited to play this position and the coaches will probably experiment with several guys to see what fits but I doubt that any of Auburn's current LBs will get serious looks.

Ryan

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My understanding is we will play a 4-2-5 defense; utilizing only 2 LB’s and one of the 5 “DB’s” will be the Star (AKA-Spur LB). So my best guess by gosh, by golly would be:

Rt ILB: Cassanova McKinzy / Justin Garrett

Left ILB: Jake Holland / Chris Landrum

Star: Kris Frost / Javiere Mitchell / Anthony Swain

The wild card is Mitchell. I don’t think he has the size to beat out McKinzy or Holland in a two LB set, but is an explosive player that could give Frost a battle.

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How effective is the 4-2-5 in stopping the run if there are only 2 LBs on the field? and if they are supposed to be faster doesn't that really hurt the interior run defense?

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Just a thought on the lb situation. ...if we're switching to a 4-2-5 doesn't our true lb depth drastically increase compared to previous years. ...throw in the juco kid for the hybrid role and we're good to go

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Johnson runs out of the basic 4-2-5 but will move people around and change formations depending on the opponents schemes and skill sets. He is very flexible with his schemes. No telling at times who lines up where.

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I think the 2 starting LBs will come from this group of 4 players: Cass, Frost, Flowers, Holland .

if holland starts im not optimistic.
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How effective is the 4-2-5 in stopping the run if there are only 2 LBs on the field? and if they are supposed to be faster doesn't that really hurt the interior run defense?

Gary Patterson uses this scheme at TCU and they have had alot of success at stopping the run.

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My understanding is that Gus wanted the 4-2-5 specifically because it was flexible and adaptable to both the players on our roster and the opponent. That being said, having several "tweeners" or LB's with differing skill sets should play to our advantage in the way that we can adapt our formations and personell on the field to what our opponent is throwing at us. For this reason I think most of our LB's will see playing time, and some may see time at ILB/OLB and the star position depending on where we need what talent. As for Frost, I think he would do well on the outside or in the star position if we are playing a run-heavy or relatively balanced team as he would bring size and speed to the outside while still being able to play coverage if necessary. But thats just my 2 cents

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How effective is the 4-2-5 in stopping the run if there are only 2 LBs on the field? and if they are supposed to be faster doesn't that really hurt the interior run defense?

Thats the point of the "Star"; who will essentially line up as an OLB a lot of the time to create a classic 3-linebacker look. The 4-2-5's strength is its ability to show multiple formations with just base players.

I'm not sure where you got the last part of your post from (re: linebackers supposed to be faster), but it is not accurate. Due to only having 2 true linebackers on the field; Ellis Johnson will sacrifice mobility/speed for size at MLB. This player is ideally a "thumper" who excels in stopping the run. The second linebacker needs to also be a strong run defender, but is ideally used as more of an attacker (pass-rushing) if you have a good enough player on the roster to fill the spot.

Given the current roster, the best case is likely McKinzy at MLB and Frost at the WLB. Of course; that is based on Frost actually developing (which he hasn't yet). Cant really project how the JUCO transfer (Flowers) will play in until practice actually starts, same goes for the "Star" position.

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I think the 2 starting LBs will come from this group of 4 players: Cass, Frost, Flowers, Holland .

if holland starts im not optimistic.

wait a sec! When are you ever optimistic?

:poke:

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I think the 2 starting LBs will come from this group of 4 players: Cass, Frost, Flowers, Holland .

if holland starts im not optimistic.

wait a sec! When are you ever optimistic?

:poke:

Only time I can remember is about 'Bug C' -- but we know how that turned out. :bawling:

;)

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Just a thought on the lb situation. ...if we're switching to a 4-2-5 doesn't our true lb depth drastically increase compared to previous years. ...throw in the juco kid for the hybrid role and we're good to go

Yeah, id think it increases to a certain degree.
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I think the 2 starting LBs will come from this group of 4 players: Cass, Frost, Flowers, Holland .

if holland starts im not optimistic.

That's how I feel....I don't think Holland is athletic enough to beat out Cass or Frost also these Juco guys aren't coming in for depth they coming in to start Gus wants to win NOW

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I think the 2 starting LBs will come from this group of 4 players: Cass, Frost, Flowers, Holland .

if holland starts im not optimistic.

That's how I feel....I don't think Holland is athletic enough to beat out Cass or Frost also these Juco guys aren't coming in for depth they coming in to start Gus wants to win NOW

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As I recall, Frost wanted to be given the chance to earn a spot at wide receiver before formally joining the linebacker position. I think he would be more suited for OLB or STAR than ILB.

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Holland had more almost tackles last year than tackles. McKinsey played great when holland was hurt.

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