StatTiger 3,188 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Of the 43 passes attempted during the 2013 A-Day Game, more than half were screen passes. Gus Malzahn believes in peppering the opposing defense with WR-screens to stretch the defense sideline to sideline. It also sets up his vertical passing game, especially with delayed routes run off of a "screen" look. The Auburn offense cashed this play into two TD passes today, both thrown by quarterback Jonathan Wallace. Because of the high number of screens, the screen plays are not always efficient on their own because of the limited element of surprise. It's important to remember the goal of the screens are often to set up later pass-plays of the vertical nature and to create running lanes between the tackles. The play... The above play was initially set up with a series of WR-screen passes executed prior to this snap. During the previous screens, a TE is set up in the slot to be the lead blocker for the outside WR on the screen. Jonathan Wallace starts the play off with a play-action to Cameron Artis-Payne, which freezes the LB's. (Payne finished the game with 117-yards on 18 carries) Wallace then pump fakes to Trovon Reed, who drops to sell the screen look. Brandon Fulse runs between both defenders rather than blocking and is wide open for an easy TD pass. Auburn ran a similar play later on during the scrimmage, which also resulted in a TD pass, this time to a WR. Both Auburn quarterbacks finished with a very efficient afternoon but were not asked to do much in a vanilla game plan except for getting the ball out of their hands as quickly as possible. Frazier ........... 10-16-0-125yds-1td (148.7 rating) Wallace .......... 18-26-1-191yds-2tds (148.6 rating) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdc81 90 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Stat, can you provide us a video analysis of how long it takes our qbs to get a bubble screen delivered vs teams that run this play with effect. Question whether is it the delivery, the blocking or the playmaking that makes me wince when we run the play. Little doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammer1 409 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Of the 43 passes attempted during the 2013 A-Day Game, more than half were screen passes. Gus Malzahn believes in peppering the opposing defense with WR-screens to stretch the defense sideline to sideline. It also sets up his vertical passing game, especially with delayed routes run off of a "screen" look. The Auburn offense cashed this play into two TD passes today, both thrown by quarterback Jonathan Wallace. Because of the high number of screens, the screen plays are not always efficient on their own because of the limited element of surprise. It's important to remember the goal of the screens are often to set up later pass-plays of the vertical nature and to create running lanes between the tackles. The play... The above play was initially set up with a series of WR-screen passes executed prior to this snap. During the previous screens, a TE is set up in the slot to be the lead blocker for the outside WR on the screen. Jonathan Wallace starts the play off with a play-action to Cameron Artis-Payne, which freezes the LB's. (Payne finished the game with 117-yards on 18 carries) Wallace then pump fakes to Trovon Reed, who drops to sell the screen look. Brandon Fulse runs between both defenders rather than blocking and is wide open for an easy TD pass. Auburn ran a similar play later on during the scrimmage, which also resulted in a TD pass, this time to a WR. Both Auburn quarterbacks finished with a very efficient afternoon but were not asked to do much in a vanilla game plan except for getting the ball out of their hands as quickly as possible. Frazier ........... 10-16-0-125yds-1td (148.7 rating) Wallace .......... 18-26-1-191yds-2tds (148.6 rating) Stat, thank you for all you do. You make this dead period more interesting for all of us. I do have a question however, What formula do you use for the QB ratings ? I went on line and found a QB rating calculator and came up with 100 for Wallace and 82 for Frazier. Just curious about the differences. PM me if you have the time. TIA WDE!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinder 39 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 JFK and NCAA QB ratings are formulated differently. You may have used the wrong one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammer1 409 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 JFK and NCAA QB ratings are formulated differently. You may have used the wrong one. Thanks Grinder !! You have shown me the error of my ways but didn't KF have an interception. I seem to remember they both had one apiece and if that is so KF had a rating of 136.25. Of the 43 passes attempted during the 2013 A-Day Game, more than half were screen passes. Gus Malzahn believes in peppering the opposing defense with WR-screens to stretch the defense sideline to sideline. It also sets up his vertical passing game, especially with delayed routes run off of a "screen" look. The Auburn offense cashed this play into two TD passes today, both thrown by quarterback Jonathan Wallace. Because of the high number of screens, the screen plays are not always efficient on their own because of the limited element of surprise. It's important to remember the goal of the screens are often to set up later pass-plays of the vertical nature and to create running lanes between the tackles. The play... The above play was initially set up with a series of WR-screen passes executed prior to this snap. During the previous screens, a TE is set up in the slot to be the lead blocker for the outside WR on the screen. Jonathan Wallace starts the play off with a play-action to Cameron Artis-Payne, which freezes the LB's. (Payne finished the game with 117-yards on 18 carries) Wallace then pump fakes to Trovon Reed, who drops to sell the screen look. Brandon Fulse runs between both defenders rather than blocking and is wide open for an easy TD pass. Auburn ran a similar play later on during the scrimmage, which also resulted in a TD pass, this time to a WR. Both Auburn quarterbacks finished with a very efficient afternoon but were not asked to do much in a vanilla game plan except for getting the ball out of their hands as quickly as possible. Frazier ........... 10-16-0-125yds-1td (148.7 rating) Wallace .......... 18-26-1-191yds-2tds (148.6 rating) Stat, thank you for all you do. You make this dead period more interesting for all of us. I do have a question however, What formula do you use for the QB ratings ? I went on line and found a QB rating calculator and came up with 100 for Wallace and 82 for Frazier. Just curious about the differences. PM me if you have the time. TIA WDE!!!!!! Never mind Stat, Grinder has set me straight. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixie1860 27 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 No just Wallace had the INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammer1 409 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 No just Wallace had the INT. OK thanks Dixie, i watched the replay recently and thought KF threw one. I guess I need to watch it again lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcm81 2 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I am wondering how well that will work against another team, or if it is a function of our DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammer1 409 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 No just Wallace had the INT. You're right Dixie, after watching the game again I know why I thought he had an interception. He did have a turnover but it was a mishandled handoff to Fulse that resulted in a fumble. I feel better now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatTiger 3,188 Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 I am wondering how well that will work against another team, or if it is a function of our DBs. It's not a new play in Malzahn's offense and was utilized many times with great success in 2009, 2010 and 2011. Kodi Burns scored a TD against Oregon running a variation of the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatTiger 3,188 Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 [stat, thank you for all you do. You make this dead period more interesting for all of us. I do have a question however, What formula do you use for the QB ratings ? I went on line and found a QB rating calculator and came up with 100 for Wallace and 82 for Frazier. Just curious about the differences. PM me if you have the time. TIA WDE!!!!!! The NCAA formula is = [ { (8.4 * yards) + (330 * touchdowns) - (200 * interceptions) + (100 * completions) } / attempts ]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammer1 409 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 [stat, thank you for all you do. You make this dead period more interesting for all of us. I do have a question however, What formula do you use for the QB ratings ? I went on line and found a QB rating calculator and came up with 100 for Wallace and 82 for Frazier. Just curious about the differences. PM me if you have the time. TIA WDE!!!!!! The NCAA formula is = [ { (8.4 * yards) + (330 * touchdowns) - (200 * interceptions) + (100 * completions) } / attempts ]. Thanks for responding Stat, Grinder set me straight in a previous post. I'm with the program now. WDE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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