Gun Bill Passes Legislature, Goes to Governor

[MDM4AU 338]

http://yellowhammerpolitics.com/blog/gun-bill-passes-legislature-goes-to-governor/

One of the provisions allows employees to keep their firearms in their vehicle when at work. I like this and I don't. I worked for a company that didn't allow employees to keep firearms in their car on the property or while at work. My job required me to travel (using my own car) into some shaddy areas from time-to-time. If it were known that I had a pistol in my car while working in the capacity of an employee of this company I could be terminated.

Whose rights supercede the other's? Does the employee's 2nd amendment rights trump the business owner's property rights?

Does the employer's property rights extend beyond the physical property? How does an employer tell a law abiding employee that they have no 2nd Amendment Rights when "on the clock"?

And I realize this is a right to work state so remove that from the equation. I'm just speaking in general.

[MDM4AU 338]

Also, how does this bill violate an employer's 5th Amendment rights??

[homersapien 12,286]

Good question.

Have you been watching "Constitution USA" with Peter Sagal on PBS? This is exactly the sort of conflict he covers in his show.

Employers who want to ban guns from their parking lots are undoubtedly concerned about shoot-outs between their employees, which happens more often than you might think. Sounds to me like you could either ask for special permission or simply take your chances. But if I were you, I'd make sure the gun was locked in either case. Too easy to break into a car.

[AUGradinTX 0]

Good question.

Have you been watching the "Constitution USA" with Peter Sagal on PBS? This is exactly the sort of conflict he covers in his show.

Employers who want to ban guns from their parking lots are undoubtedly concerned about shoot-outs between their employees, which happens more often than you might think. Sounds to me like you could either ask for special permission or simply take your chances. But if I were you, I'd make sure the gun was locked in either case. Too easy to break into a car.

Now this is funny!

[homersapien 12,286]

Good question.

Have you been watching the "Constitution USA" with Peter Sagal on PBS? This is exactly the sort of conflict he covers in his show.

Employers who want to ban guns from their parking lots are undoubtedly concerned about shoot-outs between their employees, which happens more often than you might think. Sounds to me like you could either ask for special permission or simply take your chances. But if I were you, I'd make sure the gun was locked in either case. Too easy to break into a car.

Now this is funny!

How so? It happened at the last place I worked.

[MDM4AU 338]

I don't think it's a stretch to fear a shoot-out at work. But even if that was, the fear of an employee having a bad day, getting disciplined, etc. deciding to have target practice in the office is not.

[MDM4AU 338]

Good question.

Have you been watching the "Constitution USA" with Peter Sagal on PBS? This is exactly the sort of conflict he covers in his show.

Employers who want to ban guns from their parking lots are undoubtedly concerned about shoot-outs between their employees, which happens more often than you might think. Sounds to me like you could either ask for special permission or simply take your chances. But if I were you, I'd make sure the gun was locked in either case. Too easy to break into a car.

I just took my chances and made sure it was out of site. The parking lot security at this place made a break-in extremely unlikely. I don't have an issue where I work now. I can't tote it into the building but locked away in my truck is not a problem.

I will check out the program on PBS.

[homersapien 12,286]

I don't think it's a stretch to fear a shoot-out at work. But even if that was, the fear of an employee having a bad day, getting disciplined, etc. deciding to have target practice in the office is not.

The incident I refer to was over a woman. Surprise surprise!

[homersapien 12,286]

Good question.

Have you been watching the "Constitution USA" with Peter Sagal on PBS? This is exactly the sort of conflict he covers in his show.

Employers who want to ban guns from their parking lots are undoubtedly concerned about shoot-outs between their employees, which happens more often than you might think. Sounds to me like you could either ask for special permission or simply take your chances. But if I were you, I'd make sure the gun was locked in either case. Too easy to break into a car.

I just took my chances and made sure it was out of site. The parking lot security at this place made a break-in extremely unlikely. I don't have an issue where I work now. I can't tote it into the building but locked away in my truck is not a problem.

I will check out the program on PBS.

I think you will like it. It's really well done. You can access past programs on-line from that site I linked.

(whoops, just realized I didn't link it)

http://www.pbs.org/tpt/constitution-usa-peter-sagal/home/

[MDM4AU 338]

Thanks!

[cptau 169]

I don't think it's a stretch to fear a shoot-out at work. But even if that was, the fear of an employee having a bad day, getting disciplined, etc. deciding to have target practice in the office is not.

The incident I refer to was over a woman. Surprise surprise!

That's usually it. Usually the other party waits in the parking lot. If it is a company owned parking lot they ban weapons so the company can try to stay out of the civil lawsuits by announcing a policy. Since most companies provide no physical security for their parking areas people just walk or drive in to attack. They usually have some cameras.........

[autigeremt 7,251]

We have shootouts in our parking lot all the time. So much so that the EPA has come in and deemed our parking lot as a hazardous waste site for lead.

[homersapien 12,286]

We have shootouts in our parking lot all the time. So much so that the EPA has come in and deemed our parking lot as a hazardous waste site for lead.

Only in the South!

[autigeremt 7,251]

You betcha!

[alexava 6,976]

I am a little torn on this. like homer said it is a problem more than most realize(shootings in the workplace). some do result from employees getting pissed and going to the car and returning. The problem is like emt said most people pack heat anyway because the company really cant or wont search your car without a reason. I am a duck hunter and work some night shifts. sometimes I would go hunting straight from work, truck loaded with boat in tow. this is a huge inconvenience for me. you cant hide a shotgun from view too well unless you lock it in the toolbox. plus with a camo boat, decoys and hunting gear most idiots can figure out there is a shotgun needed. a person was fired from my company (Kentucky Plant) when he reported his truck was broken into in the parking lot and burglarized and he reported a 30-06 stolen.

[cptau 169]

I am a little torn on this. like homer said it is a problem more than most realize(shootings in the workplace). some do result from employees getting pissed and going to the car and returning. The problem is like emt said most people pack heat anyway because the company really cant or wont search your car without a reason. I am a duck hunter and work some night shifts. sometimes I would go hunting straight from work, truck loaded with boat in tow. this is a huge inconvenience for me. you cant hide a shotgun from view too well unless you lock it in the toolbox. plus with a camo boat, decoys and hunting gear most idiots can figure out there is a shotgun needed. a person was fired from my company (Kentucky Plant) when he reported his truck was broken into in the parking lot and burglarized and he reported a 30-06 stolen.

So the company must have gotten a copy of the police report? Or they saw the thief stealing the rifle on the security cameras?

Several years before the world went completely nuts, two guys walked out to a car in the parking lot so one of the guys could show the the other his new deer rifle. It got picked up on a security camera, He was told never to do it again. Now he would be fired.

[homersapien 12,286]

I am a little torn on this. like homer said it is a problem more than most realize(shootings in the workplace). some do result from employees getting pissed and going to the car and returning. The problem is like emt said most people pack heat anyway because the company really cant or wont search your car without a reason. I am a duck hunter and work some night shifts. sometimes I would go hunting straight from work, truck loaded with boat in tow. this is a huge inconvenience for me. you cant hide a shotgun from view too well unless you lock it in the toolbox. plus with a camo boat, decoys and hunting gear most idiots can figure out there is a shotgun needed. a person was fired from my company (Kentucky Plant) when he reported his truck was broken into in the parking lot and burglarized and he reported a 30-06 stolen.

So the company must have gotten a copy of the police report? Or they saw the thief stealing the rifle on the security cameras?

Several years before the world went completely nuts, two guys walked out to a car in the parking lot so one of the guys could show the the other his new deer rifle. It got picked up on a security camera, He was told never to do it again. Now he would be fired.

I once bought a rifle from a guy at work. I don't recall if our company had a policy at that time about guns in the parking lot.

Heck we had a skeet range on company property and a gun club that used it once a month on a Sunday afternoon. Its where I taught my wife to handle a 12 ga pump. (Not that she hit many skeet. )

[autigeremt 7,251]

I am a little torn on this. like homer said it is a problem more than most realize(shootings in the workplace). some do result from employees getting pissed and going to the car and returning. The problem is like emt said most people pack heat anyway because the company really cant or wont search your car without a reason. I am a duck hunter and work some night shifts. sometimes I would go hunting straight from work, truck loaded with boat in tow. this is a huge inconvenience for me. you cant hide a shotgun from view too well unless you lock it in the toolbox. plus with a camo boat, decoys and hunting gear most idiots can figure out there is a shotgun needed. a person was fired from my company (Kentucky Plant) when he reported his truck was broken into in the parking lot and burglarized and he reported a 30-06 stolen.

That's stinks to high heaven. That is a great example of someone having little in the area of "walking around sense"....and I'm not talking about the guy that got fired either.

[alexava 6,976]

I am a little torn on this. like homer said it is a problem more than most realize(shootings in the workplace). some do result from employees getting pissed and going to the car and returning. The problem is like emt said most people pack heat anyway because the company really cant or wont search your car without a reason. I am a duck hunter and work some night shifts. sometimes I would go hunting straight from work, truck loaded with boat in tow. this is a huge inconvenience for me. you cant hide a shotgun from view too well unless you lock it in the toolbox. plus with a camo boat, decoys and hunting gear most idiots can figure out there is a shotgun needed. a person was fired from my company (Kentucky Plant) when he reported his truck was broken into in the parking lot and burglarized and he reported a 30-06 stolen.

So the company must have gotten a copy of the police report? Or they saw the thief stealing the rifle on the security cameras?

Several years before the world went completely nuts, two guys walked out to a car in the parking lot so one of the guys could show the the other his new deer rifle. It got picked up on a security camera, He was told never to do it again. Now he would be fired.

not sure but i suspect he did involve management/security in the investigation. This was before i was employed there. I have heard a company is responsible for your car in the parking lot.