God doesn't want healthcare insurance for eveyone

[homersapien 12,349]

Michele Bachmann Ready For 'Miracle' To Repeal Obamacare: 'God Is Going To Answer Our Prayers'

With 36 failed Obamacare repeal efforts by House Republicans already in the books and a 37th likely on the way, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) on Tuesday turned to a higher power for help in the task.

Speaking with Focus on the Family founder James Dobson in an exchange first captured by Right Wing Watch, Bachmann expressed optimism that the House's latest repeal effort -- a bill introduced by the Minnesota Republican and passed last week by a vote 229-195 -- would have a different outcome than the previous 36.

"That's why you saw the House of Representatives pass my bill, the full repeal of Obamacare, last week, and that's why I have renewed confidence that we can see this bill pass in the Senate and I think the president will ultimately be forced to repudiate his own signature piece of legislation, because the American people will demand it," Bachmann said.

While a repeal effort has little chance of advancing in the Democratic-controlled Senate, and the White House has repeatedly said the president would veto any such legislation if it did pass muster, Bachmann went on to suggest that a "miracle" from God could bring Republicans success.

"And I think before his second term is over, we're going to see a miracle before our eyes, I believe God is going to answer our prayers and we'll be freed from the yoke of Obamacare," she said. "I believe that's going to happen and we saw step one last week with the repeal of Obamacare in the House. We have two more steps. We serve a mighty God and I believe it can happen."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/21/michele-bachmann-obamacare-miracle_n_3313085.html?ref=topbar

[autigeremt 7,260]

It's her belief I guess. I prefer to look at it as our ability to live out the free will we've been given. Intervention is something I think is possible, but not in the realm of politics or legislation.

[homersapien 12,349]

It's her belief I guess. I prefer to look at it as our ability to live out the free will we've been given. Intervention is something I think is possible, but not in the realm of politics or legislation.

Now you offer up a serious response?

I can't decide if this is just hilariously pathetic or simply disturbing.

[TitanTiger 21,580]

Michele Bachmann Ready For 'Miracle' To Repeal Obamacare: 'God Is Going To Answer Our Prayers'

With 36 failed Obamacare repeal efforts by House Republicans already in the books and a 37th likely on the way, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) on Tuesday turned to a higher power for help in the task.

Speaking with Focus on the Family founder James Dobson in an exchange first captured by Right Wing Watch, Bachmann expressed optimism that the House's latest repeal effort -- a bill introduced by the Minnesota Republican and passed last week by a vote 229-195 -- would have a different outcome than the previous 36.

"That's why you saw the House of Representatives pass my bill, the full repeal of Obamacare, last week, and that's why I have renewed confidence that we can see this bill pass in the Senate and I think the president will ultimately be forced to repudiate his own signature piece of legislation, because the American people will demand it," Bachmann said.

While a repeal effort has little chance of advancing in the Democratic-controlled Senate, and the White House has repeatedly said the president would veto any such legislation if it did pass muster, Bachmann went on to suggest that a "miracle" from God could bring Republicans success.

"And I think before his second term is over, we're going to see a miracle before our eyes, I believe God is going to answer our prayers and we'll be freed from the yoke of Obamacare," she said. "I believe that's going to happen and we saw step one last week with the repeal of Obamacare in the House. We have two more steps. We serve a mighty God and I believe it can happen."

http://www.huffingto...html?ref=topbar

Not that I agree with Bachman's characterization but you do realize Obamacare doesn't give everyone health insurance as it is, right?

[autigeremt 7,260]

It's her belief I guess. I prefer to look at it as our ability to live out the free will we've been given. Intervention is something I think is possible, but not in the realm of politics or legislation.

Now you offer up a serious response?

I can't decide is this is just hilariously pathetic or simply disturbing.

It's my actual view....to some pathetic, to others disturbing.....and yes, it could be viewed as hilarious.

[AUGradinTX 0]

Yeah... Obamacare doesn't either. Ten years after implementation, tens of millions of Americans will still be without insurance.

If I remember correctly, the main talking point of Obamacare was to provide health care to all. Right? That's rhetorical. We all know it was.

It just doesn't deliver. Awesome!

We are promised it. We are fools for believing it.

[Elephant Tipper 430]

Homer, it's just you that God doesn't want to have health insurance. Everybody else gets it for FREE !

[AUGradinTX 0]

Homer, it's just you that God doesn't want to have health insurance. Everybody else gets it for FREE !

Well, he and 30 million other Americans...

[ToomersRevenge 284]

Obamacare was a copout to Insurance under the guise of healthcare reform. It does some good, but not nearly enough.

Basically needed to go single payer or bust. They could have easily passed the few things people like without the ton of crap.

[TexasTiger 14,554]

Yeah... Obamacare doesn't either. Ten years after implementation, tens of millions of Americans will still be without insurance.

If I remember correctly, the main talking point of Obamacare was to provide health care to all. Right? That's rhetorical. We all know it was.

It just doesn't deliver. Awesome!

We are promised it. We are fools for believing it.

You don't remember correctly. You may be a fool for other reasons.

[homersapien 12,349]

Homer, it's just you that God doesn't want to have health insurance. Everybody else gets it for FREE !

Well, he and 30 million other Americans...

Actually I can pay into the system.

And you are already paying for the healthcare for anyone that can't.

[homersapien 12,349]

Yeah... Obamacare doesn't either. Ten years after implementation, tens of millions of Americans will still be without insurance.

If I remember correctly, the main talking point of Obamacare was to provide health care to all. Right? That's rhetorical. We all know it was.

It just doesn't deliver. Awesome!

We are promised it. We are fools for believing it.

Well hell, let's repeal it. That will surely add to the numbers that are covered. Right? :-\

[homersapien 12,349]

Obamacare was a copout to Insurance under the guise of healthcare reform. It does some good, but not nearly enough.

Basically needed to go single payer or bust. They could have easily passed the few things people like without the ton of crap.

Apparently, many people have to have their noses shoved into the problem until they recognize it. So maybe this is a necessary transition.

[Grumps 3,706]

Obamacare was a copout to Insurance under the guise of healthcare reform. It does some good, but not nearly enough.

Basically needed to go single payer or bust. They could have easily passed the few things people like without the ton of crap.

Apparently, many people have to have their noses shoved into the problem until they recognize it. So maybe this is a necessary transition.

Exactly! This is the mantra of the current administration, "nothing is working, and we don't know how to fix it, but we will spend a bunch of money to try SOMETHING, because nothing is worse than what Bush was doing!"

[ToomersRevenge 284]

Obamacare was a copout to Insurance under the guise of healthcare reform. It does some good, but not nearly enough.

Basically needed to go single payer or bust. They could have easily passed the few things people like without the ton of crap.

Apparently, many people have to have their noses shoved into the problem until they recognize it. So maybe this is a necessary transition.

The thing is, it's not really a transition. It "forces" people to get insurance...but insurance is a large part of the problem in the first place. And some businesses are deciding to pay the fine and just not get it for their employees. So those employees are still in trouble. On top of that, insurance is getting stingier on what they cover or how much they pay. They make it a shell game to get your money or to pay your doctor while basically forcing practitioners to accept them; and there's almost no one at the bargaining table because for the most part insurance doesn't have to go to the bargaining table.

[autigeremt 7,260]

Yeah... Obamacare doesn't either. Ten years after implementation, tens of millions of Americans will still be without insurance.

If I remember correctly, the main talking point of Obamacare was to provide health care to all. Right? That's rhetorical. We all know it was.

It just doesn't deliver. Awesome!

We are promised it. We are fools for believing it.

You don't remember correctly. You may be a fool for other reasons.

Do you have any factual information on this issue or is this just an opinion?

[Weegle777 78]

Forgive my ignorance on the healthcare regulations in this country, but why can't we just open up healthcare to the free market and let them compete for our business across state lines? Wouldn't that drive down the cost of healthcare and allow more people to be able to afford it instead of just creating a brand new healthcare system with ObamaCare?

Again, just looking for an answer on this. I am not the smartest when it comes to this subject. TIA.

[Elephant Tipper 430]

Homer, it's just you that God doesn't want to have health insurance. Everybody else gets it for FREE !

Well, he and 30 million other Americans...

Actually I can actually pay into the system.

And you are already paying for the healthcare for anyone that can't.

Lighten up Francis. I was joking, although I think God may be showing that HE truly does have a sense of humor when creating some people. Present company certainly excluded though.

The difference in what Obamacare and free market insurance allows is CHOICE. Once the "Affordable Healthcare Act" is fully implemented there will be no choice, only a monopoly. When a monopoly exists quality of service diminishes and costs increase. A single-payor system will only bury people sooner which is what these knuckleheads are pressing for after all.

And now that the IRS has proved itself to be partisan, just how comfortable do you feel knowing they will have oversight of your insurance, especially when the panel keeps denying your requests for what THEY deem ill-affordable ? Their decisions will be less partisan and start including ALL the Dems who voted for it. Nothing is free Homer, NOTHING.

The funny thing is that even when Obamacare destroys America's excellent healthcare as we know it, those who can afford to do so will go elsewhere, even out of the country for market-driven healthcare services.

And why are people already paying for the healthcare of others as you claim ? Because the government mandates that hospitals cover those individuals when they show up in the emergency room without insurance AND, we get to pay for all the sex changes that doctors order and other similar unnecessary expenses thereby driving up the cost of healthcare for everyone, so I, and others with health insurance pay for them. It's an inefficient method of addressing the needs of those who need care but can't afford such.

Just like "the house always wins" in card games, so does the free market.

[homersapien 12,349]

Homer, it's just you that God doesn't want to have health insurance. Everybody else gets it for FREE !

Well, he and 30 million other Americans...

Actually I can actually pay into the system.

And you are already paying for the healthcare for anyone that can't.

Lighten up Francis. I was joking, although I think God may be showing that HE truly does have a sense of humor when creating some people. Present company certainly excluded though.

The difference in what Obamacare and free market insurance allows is CHOICE. Once the "Affordable Healthcare Act" is fully implemented there will be no choice, only a monopoly. When a monopoly exists quality of service diminishes and costs increase. A single-payor system will only bury people sooner which is what these knuckleheads are pressing for after all.

And now that the IRS has proved itself to be partisan, just how comfortable do you feel knowing they will have oversight of your insurance, especially when the panel keeps denying your requests for what THEY deem ill-affordable ? Their decisions will be less partisan and start including ALL the Dems who voted for it. Nothing is free Homer, NOTHING.

The funny thing is that even when Obamacare destroys America's excellent healthcare as we know it, those who can afford to do so will go elsewhere, even out of the country for market-driven healthcare services.

And why are people already paying for the healthcare of others as you claim ? Because the government mandates that hospitals cover those individuals when they show up in the emergency room without insurance AND, we get to pay for all the sex changes that doctors order and other similar unnecessary expenses thereby driving up the cost of healthcare for everyone, so I, and others with health insurance pay for them. It's an inefficient method of addressing the needs of those who need care but can't afford such.

Just like "the house always wins" in card games, so does the free market.

Seriously? You really think sex-change operations are part of the problem? :-\

Good grief.

And do you really believe hospitals should throw injured or sick people out if they can't demonstrate up front they are insured?

[Elephant Tipper 430]

Homer, it's just you that God doesn't want to have health insurance. Everybody else gets it for FREE !

Well, he and 30 million other Americans...

Actually I can actually pay into the system.

And you are already paying for the healthcare for anyone that can't.

Lighten up Francis. I was joking, although I think God may be showing that HE truly does have a sense of humor when creating some people. Present company certainly excluded though.

The difference in what Obamacare and free market insurance allows is CHOICE. Once the "Affordable Healthcare Act" is fully implemented there will be no choice, only a monopoly. When a monopoly exists quality of service diminishes and costs increase. A single-payor system will only bury people sooner which is what these knuckleheads are pressing for after all.

And now that the IRS has proved itself to be partisan, just how comfortable do you feel knowing they will have oversight of your insurance, especially when the panel keeps denying your requests for what THEY deem ill-affordable ? Their decisions will be less partisan and start including ALL the Dems who voted for it. Nothing is free Homer, NOTHING.

The funny thing is that even when Obamacare destroys America's excellent healthcare as we know it, those who can afford to do so will go elsewhere, even out of the country for market-driven healthcare services.

And why are people already paying for the healthcare of others as you claim ? Because the government mandates that hospitals cover those individuals when they show up in the emergency room without insurance AND, we get to pay for all the sex changes that doctors order and other similar unnecessary expenses thereby driving up the cost of healthcare for everyone, so I, and others with health insurance pay for them. It's an inefficient method of addressing the needs of those who need care but can't afford such.

Just like "the house always wins" in card games, so does the free market.

Seriously? You really think sex-change operations are part of the problem? :-\

Good grief.

And do you really believe hospitals should throw injured or sick people out if they can't demonstrate up front they are insured?

What ? You have problems with this concept ? Why ? Send those who can't pay elsewhere. Why not ? It's NOT MY PROBLEM. Why should I pay for everyone else, or YOU for that matter ? They, YOU, cost ME $$$$$$$$.

[finxster 4]

Homer, it's just you that God doesn't want to have health insurance. Everybody else gets it for FREE !

Well, he and 30 million other Americans...

Actually I can actually pay into the system.

And you are already paying for the healthcare for anyone that can't.

Lighten up Francis. I was joking, although I think God may be showing that HE truly does have a sense of humor when creating some people. Present company certainly excluded though.

The difference in what Obamacare and free market insurance allows is CHOICE. Once the "Affordable Healthcare Act" is fully implemented there will be no choice, only a monopoly. When a monopoly exists quality of service diminishes and costs increase. A single-payor system will only bury people sooner which is what these knuckleheads are pressing for after all.

And now that the IRS has proved itself to be partisan, just how comfortable do you feel knowing they will have oversight of your insurance, especially when the panel keeps denying your requests for what THEY deem ill-affordable ? Their decisions will be less partisan and start including ALL the Dems who voted for it. Nothing is free Homer, NOTHING.

The funny thing is that even when Obamacare destroys America's excellent healthcare as we know it, those who can afford to do so will go elsewhere, even out of the country for market-driven healthcare services.

And why are people already paying for the healthcare of others as you claim ? Because the government mandates that hospitals cover those individuals when they show up in the emergency room without insurance AND, we get to pay for all the sex changes that doctors order and other similar unnecessary expenses thereby driving up the cost of healthcare for everyone, so I, and others with health insurance pay for them. It's an inefficient method of addressing the needs of those who need care but can't afford such.

Just like "the house always wins" in card games, so does the free market.

Seriously? You really think sex-change operations are part of the problem? :-\

Good grief.

And do you really believe hospitals should throw injured or sick people out if they can't demonstrate up front they are insured?

What ? You have problems with this concept ? Why ? Send those who can't pay elsewhere. Why not ? It's NOT MY PROBLEM. Why should I pay for everyone else, or YOU for that matter ? They, YOU, cost ME $$$$$$$$.

Matthew 25:41-46 (New International Version (English Translation))

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

[Elephant Tipper 430]

So finxster, you are wedded to this idea of compassion that Obamacare promotes ?

PS, I say kick them to the curb if they can't pay and the faster the better.

[homersapien 12,349]

Homer, it's just you that God doesn't want to have health insurance. Everybody else gets it for FREE !

Well, he and 30 million other Americans...

Actually I can actually pay into the system.

And you are already paying for the healthcare for anyone that can't.

Lighten up Francis. I was joking, although I think God may be showing that HE truly does have a sense of humor when creating some people. Present company certainly excluded though.

The difference in what Obamacare and free market insurance allows is CHOICE. Once the "Affordable Healthcare Act" is fully implemented there will be no choice, only a monopoly. When a monopoly exists quality of service diminishes and costs increase. A single-payor system will only bury people sooner which is what these knuckleheads are pressing for after all.

And now that the IRS has proved itself to be partisan, just how comfortable do you feel knowing they will have oversight of your insurance, especially when the panel keeps denying your requests for what THEY deem ill-affordable ? Their decisions will be less partisan and start including ALL the Dems who voted for it. Nothing is free Homer, NOTHING.

The funny thing is that even when Obamacare destroys America's excellent healthcare as we know it, those who can afford to do so will go elsewhere, even out of the country for market-driven healthcare services.

And why are people already paying for the healthcare of others as you claim ? Because the government mandates that hospitals cover those individuals when they show up in the emergency room without insurance AND, we get to pay for all the sex changes that doctors order and other similar unnecessary expenses thereby driving up the cost of healthcare for everyone, so I, and others with health insurance pay for them. It's an inefficient method of addressing the needs of those who need care but can't afford such.

Just like "the house always wins" in card games, so does the free market.

Seriously? You really think sex-change operations are part of the problem? :-\

Good grief.

And do you really believe hospitals should throw injured or sick people out if they can't demonstrate up front they are insured?

What ? You have problems with this concept ? Why ? Send those who can't pay elsewhere. Why not ? It's NOT MY PROBLEM. Why should I pay for everyone else, or YOU for that matter ? They, YOU, cost ME $$$$$$$$.

Matthew 25:41-46 (New International Version (English Translation))

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Apparently, he is more of an "Old Testament guy".

It's funny how so many self-professed Christians actually seem to prefer it.

[finxster 4]

So finxster, you are wedded to this idea of compassion that Obamacare promotes ?

PS, I say kick them to the curb if they can't pay and the faster the better.

Where did I give an opinion about the Affordable Care Act?

I have no response for something so hateful. I guess you weren't hugged enough growing up or something...

[finxster 4]

Homer, it's just you that God doesn't want to have health insurance. Everybody else gets it for FREE !

Well, he and 30 million other Americans...

Actually I can actually pay into the system.

And you are already paying for the healthcare for anyone that can't.

Lighten up Francis. I was joking, although I think God may be showing that HE truly does have a sense of humor when creating some people. Present company certainly excluded though.

The difference in what Obamacare and free market insurance allows is CHOICE. Once the "Affordable Healthcare Act" is fully implemented there will be no choice, only a monopoly. When a monopoly exists quality of service diminishes and costs increase. A single-payor system will only bury people sooner which is what these knuckleheads are pressing for after all.

And now that the IRS has proved itself to be partisan, just how comfortable do you feel knowing they will have oversight of your insurance, especially when the panel keeps denying your requests for what THEY deem ill-affordable ? Their decisions will be less partisan and start including ALL the Dems who voted for it. Nothing is free Homer, NOTHING.

The funny thing is that even when Obamacare destroys America's excellent healthcare as we know it, those who can afford to do so will go elsewhere, even out of the country for market-driven healthcare services.

And why are people already paying for the healthcare of others as you claim ? Because the government mandates that hospitals cover those individuals when they show up in the emergency room without insurance AND, we get to pay for all the sex changes that doctors order and other similar unnecessary expenses thereby driving up the cost of healthcare for everyone, so I, and others with health insurance pay for them. It's an inefficient method of addressing the needs of those who need care but can't afford such.

Just like "the house always wins" in card games, so does the free market.

Seriously? You really think sex-change operations are part of the problem? :-\

Good grief.

And do you really believe hospitals should throw injured or sick people out if they can't demonstrate up front they are insured?

What ? You have problems with this concept ? Why ? Send those who can't pay elsewhere. Why not ? It's NOT MY PROBLEM. Why should I pay for everyone else, or YOU for that matter ? They, YOU, cost ME $$$$$$$$.

Matthew 25:41-46 (New International Version (English Translation))

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Apparently, he is more of an "Old Testament guy".

It's funny how so many self-professed Christians actually seem to prefer it.

Yes. They are early to pronounce that you can't use the Old Testament to argue religion with them, but many of their beliefs are squarely based on it.