WarEagleAU 0 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 http://auburn.247sports.com/Board/42/SIAP-Chris-Landrum-transferred-19016586 True? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 34,002 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 http://auburn.247spo...ferred-19016586 True? Must have posted it on his facebook because it's not on his twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 14,447 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 http://auburn.247spo...ferred-19016586 True? Must have posted it on his facebook because it's not on his twitter Hinting at it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 This is the time of year when guys that didn't climb the depth charts through the spring start to look at options. Of course, we'd like them to stay but every year some few fall out about this time. Not processed, we have plenty of space and the 85 limit won't be a problem for at least one more year, maybe more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid 0 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Bryan Matthews @BMatt247Linebacker Chris Landrum transferring to Jacksonville State Justin Hokanson @JHokanson Sophomore LB Chris Landrum and senior LB Harris Gaston have transferred to Jacksonville State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarDamnEagle#1 0 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Bryan Matthews @BMatt247Linebacker Chris Landrum transferring to Jacksonville State Justin Hokanson @JHokanson Sophomore LB Chris Landrum and senior LB Harris Gaston have transferred to Jacksonville State To add on to this. Justin Hokanson @JHokanson To keep perspective, neither Landrum or Gaston were in #Auburn's two-deep at linebacker exiting spring practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I hope that both young men have great careers at Jax State. Best of luck to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I wish them both the best, but I think most of us saw this coming when they signed. You hope they are a diamond in the rough and take a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilstein21 1 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Landrum was probably hurt some from his ankle injury his senior season in high school. It was also a dumb move to move him to FB last year instead of giving him some LB reps while he's healthy. It might not have made a difference in where he stands on the depth chart this season, but it was a move that surprised me last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,976 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Good luck to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 With Landrum and Gaston gone we have now had 10 guys "attrition out" since November 30. Over the years that I've been watching this, around 25 years now, 7 to 9 is the average with more the year of a coaching change so we're right on target. Ten and we have yet to have one gone because of injury, which is unusual. Please note: This normal attrition is why one CANNOT look at recruiting vs. the 85 limit and say "OMG we'll only be able to sign 18 guys in 2015." Most years a team can sign the full 25 due to attrition. The lucky teams that have built up their roster can still sign 25 because they don't have to "process" a bunch of them. Just two or three added to normal attrition is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 34,002 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Gaston was not on scholarship. I am not sure the number is 10 we have lost that were on scholly since Nov. 30th.. I am coming up with 7. Moseley Blakely Florence Sigler Westy Landrum Lemonier Who if any am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,976 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Burgess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle10 77 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Best of luck to both of these young men. I wish it would have worked out better for them at Auburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 34,002 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Burgess Thanks and added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle1983 2,194 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Gaston was not on scholarship. I am not sure the number is 10 we have lost that were on scholly since Nov. 30th.. I am coming up with 7. Moseley Blakely Florence Sigler Westy Landrum Burgess Who if any am I missing? That's what i thought regarding Gaston. He was asked to come back after leaving football for a year if i recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUIH1 1,515 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Jax State is a better fit for them given their talent level. This also further explains why our D has been so bad since 2009 and especially 2011 and 2012. Our LB recruiting/talent needs a big upgrade. wde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Gaston was not on scholarship. I am not sure the number is 10 we have lost that were on scholly since Nov. 30th.. I am coming up with 7. Moseley Blakely Florence Sigler Westy Landrum Burgess Who if any am I missing? Mack, Lemonier and Gaston. If Gaston wasn't on scholarship, and I don't know that he wasn't, the number will be nine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 34,002 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Gaston was not on scholarship. I am not sure the number is 10 we have lost that were on scholly since Nov. 30th.. I am coming up with 8. Moseley Blakely Florence Sigler Westy Landrum Burgess Lemonier Who if any am I missing? Mack, Lemonier and Gaston. If Gaston wasn't on scholarship, and I don't know that he wasn't, the number will be nine. Mack was already gone and all published reports had Gaston coming back as a walk on. I will give you 8 then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
around4ever 4,139 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I wouldn't count Burgess since he has been there four years and has graduated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 34,002 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I wouldn't count Burgess since he has been there four years and has graduated. Good point. Re Edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 If they were on scholarship at some point in 2012, had eligibility left and will not return for the 2013 season they must be counted as "attrition". The only point in keeping up with such numbers is to figure, from year to year, how many scholarships will become available in the future. Why or how they left is immaterial. THAT they left is all that matters. Burgess could have played another year and he chose to leave. Lemonier could have played another year and he chose to leave. Mack the same. Any redshirt senior that decides, like Burgess, to leave is leaving a vacancy, thus is part of the attrition count. If you want to look at it otherwise, that's fine for you but it makes the tool useless if those that could have returned and didn't are not counted. Maybe Gaston was put back on scholarship, maybe not. I never saw a definitive statement one way or the other. Right now I've got nine definitely gone and one (Gaston) maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 21,489 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I've never seen the word "attrition" used for people who leave early for the NFL. That's usually reserved for guys that are kicked off, transfers, academic casualties and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,901 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Jax State is a better fit for them given their talent level. This also further explains why our D has been so bad since 2009 and especially 2011 and 2012. Our LB recruiting/talent needs a big upgrade. wde I agree...from what I saw under Chiz recruiting it was mostly 5 stars on offensive side of the ball...very few if any elite lbs or 5 star defensive guys were brought in under his regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I've never seen the word "attrition" used for people who leave early for the NFL. That's usually reserved for guys that are kicked off, transfers, academic casualties and so on. Attrition as defined for the purpose of roster management or guessing numbers available for signees would be anybody that was once counted as on scholarship or expected to be on scholarship and for some reason left before his eligibility was up. That would include early NFL guys, would-be armed robbers, early graduates that forgo their last year of eligibility, signees that fail to qualify, victims of "the process", guys that get a career ending injury and anybody else that could have returned/played and didn't. Example: The reasons why Lemonier and Landrum left are very different but reasons don't matter. They both reduced the number of players on scholarship by one and that's what's being counted. We can expect from seven to nine of these every year, more when there's a coaching change. As noted above, that's why someone can't sit here right now, look at the roster with regard to the 85 limit and say "we'll only be able to sign 19 in 2015". If a person wants to try to calculate that far ahead, better account for around eight "attrition" guys every year. So far this year we've already lost either nine or ten, depending on how you want to look at Gaston and there are still six months to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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