Tigermike 4,084 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Remember a few weeks ago when the ALGORE alarmists were screeching that the collapse of an ice shelf in Antarctica was going to raise sea levels by feet, not just a few inches? AND that there was nothing we could do about it? AND it was because of man-made global warming? Well guess what? Researchers find major West Antarctic glacier melting from geothermal sources Jun 09, 2014 Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it's being melted from below by geothermal heat, researchers at the Institute for Geophysics at The University of Texas at Austin (UTIG) report in the current edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The findings significantly change the understanding of conditions beneath the West Antarctic Ice Sheet where accurate information has previously been unobtainable. The Thwaites Glacier has been the focus of considerable attention in recent weeks as other groups of researchers found the glacier is on the way to collapse, but more data and computer modeling are needed to determine when the collapse will begin in earnest and at what rate the sea level will increase as it proceeds. The new observations by UTIG will greatly inform these ice sheet modeling efforts. Using radar techniques to map how water flows under ice sheets, UTIG researchers were able to estimate ice melting rates and thus identify significant sources of geothermal heat under Thwaites Glacier. They found these sources are distributed over a wider area and are much hotter than previously assumed. The geothermal heat contributed significantly to melting of the underside of the glacier, and it might be a key factor in allowing the ice sheet to slide, affecting the ice sheet's stability and its contribution to future sea level rise. The cause of the variable distribution of heat beneath the glacier is thought to be the movement of magma and associated volcanic activity arising from the rifting of the Earth's crust beneath the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. Knowledge of the heat distribution beneath Thwaites Glacier is crucial information that enables ice sheet modelers to more accurately predict the response of the glacier to the presence of a warming ocean. Until now, scientists had been unable to measure the strength or location of heat flow under the glacier. Current ice sheet models have assumed that heat flow under the glacier is uniform like a pancake griddle with even heat distribution across the bottom of the ice. The findings of lead author Dusty Schroeder and his colleagues show that the glacier sits on something more like a multi-burner stovetop with burners putting out heat at different levels at different locations. "It's the most complex thermal environment you might imagine," said co-author Don Blankenship, a senior research scientist at UTIG and Schroeder's Ph.D. adviser. "And then you plop the most critical dynamically unstable ice sheet on planet Earth in the middle of this thing, and then you try to model it. It's virtually impossible." That's why, he said, getting a handle on the distribution of geothermal heat flow under the ice sheet has been considered essential for understanding it. Gathering knowledge about Thwaites Glacier is crucial to understanding what might happen to the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. An outlet glacier the size of Florida in the Amundsen Sea Embayment, it is up to 4,000 meters thick and is considered a key question mark in making projections of global sea level rise. The glacier is retreating in the face of the warming ocean and is thought to be unstable because its interior lies more than two kilometers below sea level while, at the coast, the bottom of the glacier is quite shallow. Because its interior connects to the vast portion of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet that lies deeply below sea level, the glacier is considered a gateway to the majority of West Antarctica's potential sea level contribution. The collapse of the Thwaites Glacier would cause an increase of global sea level of between 1 and 2 meters, with the potential for more than twice that from the entire West Antarctic Ice Sheet. The UTIG researchers had previously used ice-penetrating airborne radar sounding data to image two vast interacting subglacial water systems under Thwaites Glacier. The results from this earlier work on water systems (also published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) formed the foundation for the new work, which used the distribution of water beneath the glacier to determine the levels and locations of heat flow. In each case, Schroeder, who received his Ph.D. in May, used techniques he had developed to pull information out of data collected by the radar developed at UTIG. According to his findings, the minimum average geothermal heat flow beneath Thwaites Glacier is about 100 milliwatts per square meter, with hotspots over 200 milliwatts per square meter. For comparison, the average heat flow of the Earth's continents is less than 65 milliwatts per square meter. The presence of water and heat present researchers with significant challenges. "The combination of variable subglacial geothermal heat flow and the interacting subglacial water system could threaten the stability of Thwaites Glacier in ways that we never before imagined," Schroeder said. link Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 That silence you hear is a tree falling in the forest with no Dems to hear. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Tigermike - How much $ is BIG OIL giving you to participate in the spreading of these lies on message boards How much free gasoline are you getting a month ? And most importantly... can I have some ? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 7,460 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Homer....where are you? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,684 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Homer....where are you? Right here. Before I respond I would like to clarify and confirm what TM's conclusion is. Is it: the "Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it's being melted from below by geothermal heat,..." disproves AGW? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,084 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Homer....where are you? ;)/> Right here. Before I respond I would like to clarify and confirm what TM's conclusion is. Is it: the "Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it's being melted from below by geothermal heat,..." disproves AGW? The claims by the almarists were that the glacier was melting because of man made CO2. The glacier is in fact being melted by an undersea volcano. What is disproven are the wild exaggerated claims of ALGORE alarmist bunch. What's hard to understand about that? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,684 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Homer....where are you? ;)/> Right here. Before I respond I would like to clarify and confirm what TM's conclusion is. Is it: the "Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it's being melted from below by geothermal heat,..." disproves AGW? The claims by the almarists were that the glacier was melting because of man made CO2. The glacier is in fact being melted by an undersea volcano. What is disproven are the wild exaggerated claims of ALGORE alarmist bunch. What's hard to understand about that? I will take that as a yes. Can you explain to me why this geothermal effect on this particular glacier necessarily disproves the greenhouse effect? Could they not both exist together? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 8,097 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Think he was examining the claims that the Glacier was melting EXCLUSIVELY because of AGW. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,684 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Think he was examining the claims that the Glacier was melting EXCLUSIVELY because of AGW. I wasn't aware of such a claim. Sounds like an inferred conclusion to me. In fact, I am not aware of any AGW "alarmists" who reject the idea there are natural causes of heat in the environment. Summer is perhaps the best example. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,084 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Nice try to deflect but it wasn't inferred. I'll provide links later when I'm not on this phone. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,084 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Think he was examining the claims that the Glacier was melting EXCLUSIVELY because of AGW. I wasn't aware of such a claim. Sounds like an inferred conclusion to me. In fact, I am not aware of any AGW "alarmists" who reject the idea there are natural causes of heat in the environment. Summer is perhaps the best example. ;)/> I never said the alarmists rejected the idea of natural causes. But they do misrepresent those causes. As they did with this. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,684 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Think he was examining the claims that the Glacier was melting EXCLUSIVELY because of AGW. I wasn't aware of such a claim. Sounds like an inferred conclusion to me. In fact, I am not aware of any AGW "alarmists" who reject the idea there are natural causes of heat in the environment. Summer is perhaps the best example. ;)/> I never said the alarmists rejected the idea of natural causes. But they do misrepresent those causes. As they did with this. How did they misrepresent the problem if AGW is the primary reason the glacier is melting? If you really want to hang your hat on this "exclusively" nuance, you need to provide some evidence that claim was made. While you're at it, lets see some evidence to back up your claim "they misrepresent those (natural) causes". Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,684 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 And since you are talking about "this" discovery in particular, did you bother to follow up on the citations? http://phys.org/news...geothermal.html excerpts: Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it's being melted from below by geothermal heat,... The Thwaites Glacier has been the focus of considerable attention in recent weeks as other groups of researchers found the glacier is on the way to collapse, but more data and computer modeling are needed to determine when the collapse will begin in earnest and at what rate the sea level will increase as it proceeds.... Knowledge of the heat distribution beneath Thwaites Glacier is crucial information that enables ice sheet modelers to more accurately predict the response of the glacier to the presence of a warming ocean. Until now, scientists had been unable to measure the strength or location of heat flow under the glacier. Current ice sheet models have assumed that heat flow under the glacier is uniform like a pancake griddle with even heat distribution across the bottom of the ice. The findings of lead author Dusty Schroeder and his colleagues show that the glacier sits on something more like a multi-burner stovetop with burners putting out heat at different levels at different locations.... The glacier is retreating in the face of the warming ocean and is thought to be unstable because its interior lies more than two kilometers below sea level while, at the coast, the bottom of the glacier is quite shallow. According to his findings, the minimum average geothermal heat flow beneath Thwaites Glacier is about 100 milliwatts per square meter, with hotspots over 200 milliwatts per square meter. For comparison, the average heat flow of the Earth's continents is less than 65 milliwatts per square meter. -------------------------- Bottom line is we now have a more accurate way to model the contribution - or variation - from geothermal heat than we did before. And it sounds to me that if anything, it's going to make the current models even more pessimistic. (And aren't you one of the folks who insisted the antarctic ice is not melting at all?) Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2059929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 8,097 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 And since you are talking about "this" discovery in particular, did you bother to follow up on the citations? http://phys.org/news...geothermal.html excerpts: Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it's being melted from below by geothermal heat,... The Thwaites Glacier has been the focus of considerable attention in recent weeks as other groups of researchers found the glacier is on the way to collapse, but more data and computer modeling are needed to determine when the collapse will begin in earnest and at what rate the sea level will increase as it proceeds.... Knowledge of the heat distribution beneath Thwaites Glacier is crucial information that enables ice sheet modelers to more accurately predict the response of the glacier to the presence of a warming ocean. Until now, scientists had been unable to measure the strength or location of heat flow under the glacier. Current ice sheet models have assumed that heat flow under the glacier is uniform like a pancake griddle with even heat distribution across the bottom of the ice. The findings of lead author Dusty Schroeder and his colleagues show that the glacier sits on something more like a multi-burner stovetop with burners putting out heat at different levels at different locations.... The glacier is retreating in the face of the warming ocean and is thought to be unstable because its interior lies more than two kilometers below sea level while, at the coast, the bottom of the glacier is quite shallow. According to his findings, the minimum average geothermal heat flow beneath Thwaites Glacier is about 100 milliwatts per square meter, with hotspots over 200 milliwatts per square meter. For comparison, the average heat flow of the Earth's continents is less than 65 milliwatts per square meter. -------------------------- Bottom line is we now have a more accurate way to model the contribution - or variation - from geothermal heat than we did before. And it sounds to me that if anything, it's going to make the current models even more pessimistic. (And aren't you one of the folks who insisted the antarctic ice is not melting at all?) You do realize that you are making OUR points for us now? Many on this board have said ad nauseum that there was other than AGW at work in our environment. In fact many of us have argued with you many times that AGW is merely one in a myriad of reasons for temperature fluctuations.So you now agree with us that AGW (real or imagined) is merely a small part of the climate equation? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
around4ever 4,140 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 We must stop geothermal heating. Who do we protest against to get this stopped? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 7,460 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 We must stop geothermal heating. Who do we protest against to get this stopped? ;D/> Nick Satan. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,684 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 And since you are talking about "this" discovery in particular, did you bother to follow up on the citations? http://phys.org/news...geothermal.html excerpts: Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it's being melted from below by geothermal heat,... The Thwaites Glacier has been the focus of considerable attention in recent weeks as other groups of researchers found the glacier is on the way to collapse, but more data and computer modeling are needed to determine when the collapse will begin in earnest and at what rate the sea level will increase as it proceeds.... Knowledge of the heat distribution beneath Thwaites Glacier is crucial information that enables ice sheet modelers to more accurately predict the response of the glacier to the presence of a warming ocean. Until now, scientists had been unable to measure the strength or location of heat flow under the glacier. Current ice sheet models have assumed that heat flow under the glacier is uniform like a pancake griddle with even heat distribution across the bottom of the ice. The findings of lead author Dusty Schroeder and his colleagues show that the glacier sits on something more like a multi-burner stovetop with burners putting out heat at different levels at different locations.... The glacier is retreating in the face of the warming ocean and is thought to be unstable because its interior lies more than two kilometers below sea level while, at the coast, the bottom of the glacier is quite shallow. According to his findings, the minimum average geothermal heat flow beneath Thwaites Glacier is about 100 milliwatts per square meter, with hotspots over 200 milliwatts per square meter. For comparison, the average heat flow of the Earth's continents is less than 65 milliwatts per square meter. -------------------------- Bottom line is we now have a more accurate way to model the contribution - or variation - from geothermal heat than we did before. And it sounds to me that if anything, it's going to make the current models even more pessimistic. (And aren't you one of the folks who insisted the antarctic ice is not melting at all?) You do realize that you are making OUR points for us now? Many on this board have said ad nauseum that there was other than AGW at work in our environment. In fact many of us have argued with you many times that AGW is merely one in a myriad of reasons for temperature fluctuations.So you now agree with us that AGW (real or imagined) is merely a small part of the climate equation? BS. Nowhere have I ever contradicted the fact that natural forces affecting our climate one way or the other. The only thing I have argued is those natural contributions have nothing to do with the contribution made by man. Nor does the fact that natural contributions exist require that man's contribution is "merely a small part." Do you see the distinctions? These are errors of logic. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The warm-mongers really really want MAN MADE causes to be the bane of our planet. They just do. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 8,097 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The warm-mongers really really want MAN MADE causes to be the bane of our planet. They just do. Yep. And no matter what they are talking about it is always, always, always the result of Global Warming, even when it isn't.If we set record LOW temperatures, blame AGW. If we set one record high, blame AGW. If we have flooding, blame AGW. If we have drought, blame AGW. If we have storms, blame AGW. If we have a mild hurricane season, blame AGW. If we have...we get the picture now. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The geothermal heat contributed significantly to melting of the underside of the glacier, and it might be a key factor in allowing the ice sheet to slide, affecting the ice sheet's stability and its contribution to future sea level rise. http://phys.org/news/2014-06-major-west-antarctic-glacier-geothermal.html#jCp Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 8,097 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 And since you are talking about "this" discovery in particular, did you bother to follow up on the citations? http://phys.org/news...geothermal.html excerpts: Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it's being melted from below by geothermal heat,... The Thwaites Glacier has been the focus of considerable attention in recent weeks as other groups of researchers found the glacier is on the way to collapse, but more data and computer modeling are needed to determine when the collapse will begin in earnest and at what rate the sea level will increase as it proceeds.... Knowledge of the heat distribution beneath Thwaites Glacier is crucial information that enables ice sheet modelers to more accurately predict the response of the glacier to the presence of a warming ocean. Until now, scientists had been unable to measure the strength or location of heat flow under the glacier. Current ice sheet models have assumed that heat flow under the glacier is uniform like a pancake griddle with even heat distribution across the bottom of the ice. The findings of lead author Dusty Schroeder and his colleagues show that the glacier sits on something more like a multi-burner stovetop with burners putting out heat at different levels at different locations.... The glacier is retreating in the face of the warming ocean and is thought to be unstable because its interior lies more than two kilometers below sea level while, at the coast, the bottom of the glacier is quite shallow. According to his findings, the minimum average geothermal heat flow beneath Thwaites Glacier is about 100 milliwatts per square meter, with hotspots over 200 milliwatts per square meter. For comparison, the average heat flow of the Earth's continents is less than 65 milliwatts per square meter. -------------------------- Bottom line is we now have a more accurate way to model the contribution - or variation - from geothermal heat than we did before. And it sounds to me that if anything, it's going to make the current models even more pessimistic. (And aren't you one of the folks who insisted the antarctic ice is not melting at all?) You do realize that you are making OUR points for us now? Many on this board have said ad nauseum that there was other than AGW at work in our environment. In fact many of us have argued with you many times that AGW is merely one in a myriad of reasons for temperature fluctuations.So you now agree with us that AGW (real or imagined) is merely a small part of the climate equation? BS. Nowhere have I ever contradicted the fact that natural forces affecting our climate one way or the other. The only thing I have argued is those natural contributions have nothing to do with the contribution made by man. Nor does the fact that natural contributions exist require that man's contribution is "merely a small part." Do you see the distinctions? These are errors of logic. No they are errors of semantics. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/01/13/3155431/massive-glacier-melt-irreversible-antarctica/ "Understanding how climate change causes glaciers to melt and thus sea level to rise is an important part of future climate modeling and planning." Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,084 Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 Western Antarctic ice sheet collapse has already begun, scientists warn Two separate studies confirm loss of ice sheet is inevitable, and will cause up to 4m of additional sea-level rise 'Collapse will change the coastline of the whole world' http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/may/12/western-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-has-already-begun-scientists-warn Two teams of scientists say the long-feared collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet has begun, kicking off what they say will be a centuries-long, "unstoppable" process that could raise sea levels by as much as 15 feet http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/west-antarctic-ice-sheets-collapse-triggers-sea-level-warning-n103221 Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans From Polar Melt By JUSTIN GILLIS and KENNETH CHANGMAY 12, 2014 A large section of the mighty West Antarctica ice sheet has begun falling apart and its continued melting now appears to be unstoppable, two groups of scientists reported on Monday. If the findings hold up, they suggest that the melting could destabilize neighboring parts of the ice sheet and a rise in sea level of 10 feet or more may be unavoidable in coming centuries. Global warming caused by the human-driven release of greenhouse gases has helped to destabilize the ice sheet, though other factors may also be involved, the scientists said. The rise of the sea is likely to continue to be relatively slow for the rest of the 21st century, the scientists added, but in the more distant future it may accelerate markedly, potentially throwing society into crisis. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/science/earth/collapse-of-parts-of-west-antarctica-ice-sheet-has-begun-scientists-say.html?_r=0 This from April 2009: An ice bridge linking a shelf of ice the size of Jamaica to two islands in Antarctica has snapped. Scientists say the collapse could mean the Wilkins Ice Shelf is on the brink of breaking away, and provides further evidence of rapid change in the region. Sited on the western side of the Antarctic Peninsula, the Wilkins shelf has been retreating since the 1990s. Researchers regarded the ice bridge as an important barrier, holding the remnant shelf structure in place. ,,, ,,, While the break-up will have no direct impact on sea level because the ice is floating, it heightens concerns over the impact of climate change on this part of Antarctica. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7984054.stm But according to homer they don't do inaccurate scare pieces. They don't misinform and not give the entire story. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,684 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 We must stop geothermal heating. Who do we protest against to get this stopped? ;D/> Nick Satan. That was good! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,684 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The warm-mongers really really want MAN MADE causes to be the bane of our planet. They just do. Yep. And no matter what they are talking about it is always, always, always the result of Global Warming, even when it isn't.If we set record LOW temperatures, blame AGW. If we set one record high, blame AGW. If we have flooding, blame AGW. If we have drought, blame AGW. If we have storms, blame AGW. If we have a mild hurricane season, blame AGW. If we have...we get the picture now. Are you guys switching to generalities expressed in the third person to avoid defending your statements? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 12,684 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The geothermal heat contributed significantly to melting of the underside of the glacier, and it might be a key factor in allowing the ice sheet to slide, affecting the ice sheet's stability and its contribution to future sea level rise. http://phys.org/news...hermal.html#jCp So your conclusion is....? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/138941-remember-the-claims-that-man-made-co2-was-melting-the-glacier/#findComment-2060722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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