Rednilla 4,698 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I'm starting a new thread here to extend the discussion from the Beckner thread without furthering tangential posts that have little to do with him: Of the four linebacker recruits, the talking heads on this forum insist that two will play either safety or star. That leaves two, with one (Williams) said to be waiting for a committable offer from UAT before he flips. I call that cause for concern. The fact that all current LB's are returning is a double-edged sword, excepting the two freshmen on whom the jury is still out. There may well be a number of DL guys returning even after all the graduation. I still think it's cause for concern when we don't have a single player committed there. We have talent and depth at OL and are still signing multiple guys there. It's rather apparent that we'd line them up on D-line too if we could, but so far we have not been able to get 'em. So I'm concerned. You are adamantly determined to maintain pessimism until the defense is partying like it's 1988, despite the fact that we are currently 15-2 under Gus Malzahn, aren't you? Now, to eschew obfuscation, the Star position IS a safety, hence the reason the starter at that position is referred to as the 'star safety'. The fact of the matter is that the 4-2-5 defense is schematically pretty similar to the old 4-4 defense, just with safeties (generally of the bigger variety) taking the place of the outside linebackers (which is why the term 'hybrid' comes into play so often)...and the fact that two of our commits who are listed as linebackers by recruiting sites are being recruited to play that position doesn't mean we couldn't alter that plan if they beef up a little. Also, you shouldn't take what is being said about Williams as pure fact, as you seem to be. Furthermore, the defense just gave up a total of 14 points and less than 300 yards to an exceedingly good offense (in their house, no less), but you jump to point out that their second score was because of linebacker play. Nevermind that this defense is set up to allow the safeties to come up and make plays (again, it is schematically similar to the 4-4 stack), meaning it isn't so unheard of for one of them to lead the team in tackles (especially when they are utilized for containment against a mobile quarterback), and that there is no way we could have played them as well as we did if the two guys at linebacker were really the liability you so often make them out to be. No, the LBs all suck, there is no chance of them ever being better, and only the two true freshman have a chance to be any good. (I am curious, however, when you might have seen Cameron Toney play enough to determine that he has no hope.) BTW, we do have a commit on the defensive line, rated a 4 star by 247 (but only a 3 star on the composite ratings, which makes him a borderline 4 star in my book). We've also got one of the top recruiters in the nation coaching the position, so it doesn't seem all that unlikely to think we'll pick up at least a couple more solid recruits there, now does it? Come on, man, you really need to brighten up a bit and not expect so little out of a coaching staff that has done so much, both on the field and in recruiting. I'm not saying to start pumping sunshine all over the place, I'm just asking you to not make such an effort at being a contrarian that you issue a rebuttal to any sunshine that does get through the cloud constantly hanging over your head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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