President Obama quoting scripture

[TheBlueVue 177]

How hypocritical was it that the most overtly atheistic President in history decided to quote scripture to win over agreement with his lawless EO on immigration? Nothing comes across with more "sincerity" than a guy, who has ridiculed the Bible as useful fiction, then turns around and uses it when he believes it benefits his agenda. The question is...Does it?

"So President Obama is quoting Scripture to make his case for amnesty. I just knew the separation-of-church-and-state crowd would be up in arms today with shouts of protest—wait, there aren’t any. No scathing posts. No statement from the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Oh, right, this is a Democratic president, so it’s okay. His reference to Exodus 22:1 and 23:9 is perfectly acceptable. But like most politicians who pillage the Bible for their own purposes, Obama plucked verses out of context............."

"It would, however, be prudent for anyone cheering Obama’s executive overreach to contemplate that if the president can act because Congress won’t on immigration, he sets a precedent for a future Republican president to do the same. Imagine this: the GOP president in 2017 makes a speech about how the Bible says we shouldn’t kill the innocent, and with a stroke of his pen, he makes abortion illegal. I can just hear the howls of protests."

http://thefederalist...upport-amnesty/

Actually, a pretty good piece especially when it is made obvious all the benefits that are made available to illegal aliens.

[jj3jordan 2,043]

He knows a lot more Quran scripture than he does the Bible. For him quoting the Bible is laughable.

[AURaptor 1,122]

His religion is socialism. He should be quoting Marx.

[cooltigger21 0]

Anybody on the right that tried that would be crucified.

[TheBlueVue 177]

Anybody on the right that tried that would be crucified.

I would agree because, among the lefties its all live and let live until its a conservative then its ...you cant do that, how dare you! Liberal/progressives take hypocrisy and duplicity to previously unrecorded levels and the funny thing is they don't even seem to realize it.

[DKW 86 7,418]

Not that it applies here, but...

Genesis 3 New International Version (NIV)

The Fall

3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

But...The Devil himself knows and quotes scripture out of context.

[cooltigger21 0]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

[TheBlueVue 177]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

[cooltigger21 0]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

and just like clockwork up steps ichy with his usual shtick

[TheBlueVue 177]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

[cooltigger21 0]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Blue with Ichy it's all one way on the partisanship. It's always the republicans that are partisan and using rhetoric, or more specifically the conservatives.

[TheBlueVue 177]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Blue with Ichy it's all one way on the partisanship. It's always the republicans that are partisan and using rhetoric, or more specifically the conservatives.

Of course but dont forget he's a "conservative" :-\ In his stunted world view everything would be fine if politicians just came together and sang kumbayah. James Madison said partisanship is healthy and the country is better because of it. It pits ambition against ambition. Im going to explain that so itchy wont completely miss the point. It means that politicians, by nature, have a lot of bad ideas and it is essentially the only way one bad idea can be stopped by another bad idea.

According to many of itchy's views on big business, i would argue that if business owners arrived at a consensus like itchy expects of politicians he would be the first to call it collusion.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Then please, allow me to rephrase the question. Is everyone who disagrees with you evil and/or ignorant?

[icanthearyou 4,462]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Blue with Ichy it's all one way on the partisanship. It's always the republicans that are partisan and using rhetoric, or more specifically the conservatives.

It is so sweet, the way you help Blue.

In this forum, there is some truth to that generalization.

[TheBlueVue 177]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Then please, allow me to rephrase the question. Is everyone who disagrees with you evil and/or ignorant?

Are you so shallow you cannot understand i am talking about politicians, most notably, liberal politicians in Washington? Are you going to argue this admin has not lied with reckless abandon to further implement their agenda? Are you going to mindlessly argue they are not colossal hypocrites when they start quoting scripture? Are you going to argue they dont cheat when they changed the rules in the middle of the night to get ObamaCare passed with 51 votes instead of the required 60?

I forgot the most recent travesty of misdirection. Are you going to argue that liberals truly care about immigrants when they are simply importing a new electorate that will, over time, be easily manipulated into securing their political futures for generations?

[icanthearyou 4,462]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Blue with Ichy it's all one way on the partisanship. It's always the republicans that are partisan and using rhetoric, or more specifically the conservatives.

Of course but dont forget he's a "conservative" :-\ In his stunted world view everything would be fine if politicians just came together and sang kumbayah. James Madison said partisanship is healthy and the country is better because of it. It pits ambition against ambition. Im going to explain that so itchy wont completely miss the point. It means that politicians, by nature, have a lot of bad ideas and it is essentially the only way one bad idea can be stopped by another bad idea.

According to many of itchy's views on big business, i would argue that if business owners arrived at a consensus like itchy expects of politicians he would be the first to call it collusion.

Yes, I am sure that is exactly what Madison meant. I am sure he saw people in the government childishly and continuously bitching at one another as highly constructive. I am sure he would love a two party system in which the primary goals of the parties reflects the interests of the party, not the interests of the United States.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Then please, allow me to rephrase the question. Is everyone who disagrees with you evil and/or ignorant?

Are you so shallow you cannot understand i am talking about politicians, most notably, liberal politicians in Washington? Are you going to argue this admin has not lied with reckless abandon to further implement their agenda? Are you going to mindlessly argue they are not colossal hypocrites when they start quoting scripture? Are you going to argue they dont cheat when they changed the rules in the middle of the night to get ObamaCare passed with 51 votes instead of the required 60?

No. Then again, I am not going to forget that you can make the same statements about the Republican Party as well.

Maybe it is time to think about yourself as shallow and hypocritical?

[TheBlueVue 177]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Blue with Ichy it's all one way on the partisanship. It's always the republicans that are partisan and using rhetoric, or more specifically the conservatives.

Of course but dont forget he's a "conservative" :-\ In his stunted world view everything would be fine if politicians just came together and sang kumbayah. James Madison said partisanship is healthy and the country is better because of it. It pits ambition against ambition. Im going to explain that so itchy wont completely miss the point. It means that politicians, by nature, have a lot of bad ideas and it is essentially the only way one bad idea can be stopped by another bad idea.

According to many of itchy's views on big business, i would argue that if business owners arrived at a consensus like itchy expects of politicians he would be the first to call it collusion.

Yes, I am sure that is exactly what Madison meant. I am sure he saw people in the government childishly and continuously bitching at one another as highly constructive. I am sure he would love a two party system in which the primary goals of the parties reflects the interests of the party, not the interests of the United States.

I am never amazed by your self serving oversimplification of partisanship.

Lets examine further

Heres what was passed on a bipartisan basis...No Child left behind which Geo Bush signed saying he believed parts of it were unconstitutional. Your favorite, The War Resolution to invade Iraq and, Wall St bail outs.

Heres what passed as a result of partisan hegemony.

The automotive bail outs, Green energy stimulus, Obama Care and a failed stimulus package.

So, in your infinite wisdom maybe you can explain how much better the bi-partisan legislation is versus the partisan power plays. Pick one..like I said, as it has turned out none of them were any good.

[TheBlueVue 177]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Then please, allow me to rephrase the question. Is everyone who disagrees with you evil and/or ignorant?

Are you so shallow you cannot understand i am talking about politicians, most notably, liberal politicians in Washington? Are you going to argue this admin has not lied with reckless abandon to further implement their agenda? Are you going to mindlessly argue they are not colossal hypocrites when they start quoting scripture? Are you going to argue they dont cheat when they changed the rules in the middle of the night to get ObamaCare passed with 51 votes instead of the required 60?

No. Then again, I am not going to forget that you can make the same statements about the Republican Party as well.

Maybe it is time to think about yourself as shallow and hypocritical?

Well name one instance. I have named several and can point out more if you wish.

And as far as cooltigger helping me goes....Of ALL the things I could use, I dont need any help when it comes to pointing out your silliness.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Then please, allow me to rephrase the question. Is everyone who disagrees with you evil and/or ignorant?

Are you so shallow you cannot understand i am talking about politicians, most notably, liberal politicians in Washington? Are you going to argue this admin has not lied with reckless abandon to further implement their agenda? Are you going to mindlessly argue they are not colossal hypocrites when they start quoting scripture? Are you going to argue they dont cheat when they changed the rules in the middle of the night to get ObamaCare passed with 51 votes instead of the required 60?

No. Then again, I am not going to forget that you can make the same statements about the Republican Party as well.

Maybe it is time to think about yourself as shallow and hypocritical?

Well name one instance. I have named several and can point out more if you wish.

And as far as cooltigger helping me goes....Of ALL the things I could use, I dont need any help when it comes to pointing out your silliness.

Don't get defensive. It's none of my business. I just think it is cute and very sweet.

[TheBlueVue 177]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

But therein is where lib/progs have the biggest advantage. They are completely unencumbered by any moral authority, honor, the law, process or that dated little document called the Constitution. They are the absolute masters of situational ethics and they have no problem whatsoever lying, cheating, being enormous hypocrites anything else as long as it delivers a win for their team.

So, everyone who disagrees with you is evil?

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but why should that surprise anyone. You're such a shallow twit you think partisanship is to blame for all the divisions in Congress and ignorantly refuse to see that it is just a symptom of the those divisions.

Then please, allow me to rephrase the question. Is everyone who disagrees with you evil and/or ignorant?

Are you so shallow you cannot understand i am talking about politicians, most notably, liberal politicians in Washington? Are you going to argue this admin has not lied with reckless abandon to further implement their agenda? Are you going to mindlessly argue they are not colossal hypocrites when they start quoting scripture? Are you going to argue they dont cheat when they changed the rules in the middle of the night to get ObamaCare passed with 51 votes instead of the required 60?

No. Then again, I am not going to forget that you can make the same statements about the Republican Party as well.

Maybe it is time to think about yourself as shallow and hypocritical?

Well name one instance. I have named several and can point out more if you wish.

And as far as cooltigger helping me goes....Of ALL the things I could use, I dont need any help when it comes to pointing out your silliness.

Don't get defensive. It's none of my business. I just think it is cute and very sweet.

Defensive? You are a typical liberal twit and the exact type of useful idiot the Jonathon Grubers of the left depend on.

[cooltigger21 0]

Ichy you like to pretend you are a conservative but that is the last thing you are. You like to pretend you are this high minded independent thinker above the partisanship that you claim to hate. Only one problem with that is you always come to the aid of the liberals against conservatives. I said it before and I'll say it again. People like Homer and Tex are liberals to the core and I disagree with them profoundly but at least they have the courage of their beliefs and don't try to hide and pretend they are something they aren't.

[WarTim 3,456]

The man who sat in Jeremiah Wrights' church for 20 years and wants to force the little sisters of the poor and other religious organizations to violate their religious beliefs has no moral authority whatsoever when it comes to using scripture.

Bingo. Nailed it.

[TheBlueVue 177]

Ichy you like to pretend you are a conservative but that is the last thing you are. You like to pretend you are this high minded independent thinker above the partisanship that you claim to hate. Only one problem with that is you always come to the aid of the liberals against conservatives. I said it before and I'll say it again. People like Homer and Tex are liberals to the core and I disagree with them profoundly but at least they have the courage of their beliefs and don't try to hide and pretend they are something they aren't.

Its just another symptom of the left having mastered situational ethics but posing as a conservative simply isn't working for itchy. The fact is I have never even seen him attempt to defend a conservative belief and by contrast have never seen pass on defending all liberalism. With him, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck springs immediately to mind.