cooltigger21 0 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 There is only one reason for this. They intend to do harm to this nation and our relations with other nations. They intend to make it next to impossible to gain intelligence. Once again we come face to face with the mindset that we are the bad guys and all the troubles in the world are our fault. http://www.cbsnews.c...torture-report/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Tipper 430 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Interesting that George Tenet, Porter Goss, and General Michael Hayden were never interviewed for this report. No one directly involved with the program was interviewed. Jose Rodriguez was never interviewed which is mind-numbingly stupid for Senator Feinstein to not do which means she did not want to know. To provide full transparency the names of those on the intelligence committees, the topics they discussed, and their attendance records. The Dems are trying to paint the Repubs as evil. If waterboarding is so evil, then why did the Dems not complain at the time of implementation ? For the Dems to release this report is damaging to America, not the Republicans, whether you support the CIA's tactics or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 You spent 40 million for this report. I want to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,456 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 “We do not torture,” Bush declared in response to reports of secret CIA prisons overseas. Bush defended his administration's efforts to stop the U.S. Congress from imposing rules on the handling of terrorism suspects. There was no torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,456 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 You spent 40 million for this report. I want to read it. That is a hell of a lot of money for a report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltigger21 0 Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Interesting that George Tenet, Porter Goss, and General Michael Hayden were never interviewed for this report. No one directly involved with the program was interviewed. Jose Rodriguez was never interviewed which is mind-numbingly stupid for Senator Feinstein to not do which means she did not want to know. To provide full transparency the names of those on the intelligence committees, the topics they discussed, and their attendance records. The Dems are trying to paint the Repubs as evil. If waterboarding is so evil, then why did the Dems not complain at the time of implementation ? For the Dems to release this report is damaging to America, not the Republicans, whether you support the CIA's tactics or not. That is their intent, to harm America. The mindset of these people is America so the problem in the world not the solution. They say those tactics are what Isis and others use to recruit against us. They don't hate us because of that. They hate us because we're not like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Tipper 430 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 “We do not torture,” Bush declared in response to reports of secret CIA prisons overseas. Bush defended his administration's efforts to stop the U.S. Congress from imposing rules on the handling of terrorism suspects. There was no torture. The CIA waterboarded, body slammed, deprived detainees of sleep, exploited phobias. None of these strategies produces harm to the individual. The Dems want to paint the Republicans as the Viet Cong. Does the CIA rip arms out of their sockets like the Viet Cong ? NO. Besides, ZERO Dems countered the use of "enhanced interrogation" when it was told to them it was being used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltigger21 0 Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 If it saves American lives then let's do it. One American life is worth more than all of these worthless POS put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,456 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Interesting that George Tenet, Porter Goss, and General Michael Hayden were never interviewed for this report. No one directly involved with the program was interviewed. Jose Rodriguez was never interviewed which is mind-numbingly stupid for Senator Feinstein to not do which means she did not want to know. To provide full transparency the names of those on the intelligence committees, the topics they discussed, and their attendance records. The Dems are trying to paint the Repubs as evil. If waterboarding is so evil, then why did the Dems not complain at the time of implementation ? For the Dems to release this report is damaging to America, not the Republicans, whether you support the CIA's tactics or not. That is their intent, to harm America. The mindset of these people is America so the problem in the world not the solution. No offense, but that is idiotic. This is nothing more than a volley in the political war. You investigate us, we investigate you. You release damning information, we release damning information. You scream scandal, we yell scandal. None of them give a damn about America. This is about the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Tipper 430 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Interesting that George Tenet, Porter Goss, and General Michael Hayden were never interviewed for this report. No one directly involved with the program was interviewed. Jose Rodriguez was never interviewed which is mind-numbingly stupid for Senator Feinstein to not do which means she did not want to know. To provide full transparency the names of those on the intelligence committees, the topics they discussed, and their attendance records. The Dems are trying to paint the Repubs as evil. If waterboarding is so evil, then why did the Dems not complain at the time of implementation ? For the Dems to release this report is damaging to America, not the Republicans, whether you support the CIA's tactics or not. That is their intent, to harm America. The mindset of these people is America so the problem in the world not the solution. No offense, but that is idiotic. This is nothing more than a volley in the political war. You investigate us, we investigate you. You release damning information, we release damning information. You scream scandal, we yell scandal. None of them give a damn about America. This is about the party. EXACTLY. Since the Dems have chosen to try to embarrass America through this release then ALL records should be made available to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,523 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Torture is deserving of people who cut off heads and drag bodies through the streets. Is there any mention of the rendition that's been going on since 2008? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,523 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 And yes....this is political warfare but people may die because if the release of infirmation. Information that doesn't do a darn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,456 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Torture is deserving of people who cut off heads and drag bodies through the streets. Is there any mention of the rendition that's been going on since 2008? You, of all people, know this isn't about torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,456 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 And yes....this is political warfare but people may die because if the release of infirmation. Information that doesn't do a darn thing. As if that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,523 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I agree with you. Just throwing in my .02. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 "The cynicism necessary to attempt to blame the blowback from their torture program on those who want it exposed is truly a wonder. On one hand, they insist that they did nothing wrong and the program was humane, professional, and legal. On the other they implicitly accept that the truth is so ghastly that if it is released there will be an explosive backlash against America. Then the same officials who said “Freedom isn’t free!” as they sent other people’s children to fight in needless wars claim that the risk of violence against American embassies is too high a price to pay, so the details of what they did must be kept hidden. But either we’re a free society, or we aren’t. Either Americans have a right to know the full extent of what their government did in those dark days, or they don’t. We have to choose." http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/12/08/why-the-upcoming-battle-over-the-senate-torture-report-is-such-a-big-deal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,456 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I agree with you. Just throwing in my .02. Lol I know. Same reasons I threw the Bush quote out there. They are ALL lying. The scandals are everywhere, if you play the game. The parties and politicians win. The special interests win. We pay the tab. Their government, our debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The report has been posted. It's 62MB: http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/study2014/sscistudy1.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I heard one Obama admin official saying it was being released in the name of transparency. That's pretty dayum rich isn't it? Everything the the people want transparency on the admin stonewalls the hell out of it but, the one thing that has very good reason to remain classified they prefer publishing it for the world to read. Amazingly misguided policies have become the hallmark of the obama admn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,456 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The report has been posted. It's 62MB: http://www.intellige.../sscistudy1.pdf Not what I was expecting, so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The report has been posted. It's 62MB: http://www.intellige.../sscistudy1.pdf Not what I was expecting, so far. It won't even touch the DoD Enhanced Interrogation program. That's a doozy also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If I were a current CIA person in a foreign country right now, I would have serious reservations as to whether my country cared more about me than politics. This is a sad day for our intelligence operations and only someone whose own life, or that of their family is not in jeopardy could think releasing this report was a good thing. JMHO. Actually the credibility report is tainted since many of the key players involved were not interviewed or allowed to defend themselves.Just a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Much ado about nothing. So what? Terrorists were subject to water boarding, that was already public info. They were threatened they wouldn't leave alive. BFD! They were given ice baths and enemas and kept in quarters that weren't 5 star. I guess the moral here is we need to quarter our prisoners in 5 star resorts with concierge services and ask them no questions. That way the Obama admin can release them in perfect health to go back to the activities of their terrorist pasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I heard one Obama admin official saying it was being released in the name of transparency. That's pretty dayum rich isn't it? Everything the the people want transparency on the admin stonewalls the hell out of it but, the one thing that has very good reason to remain classified they prefer publishing it for the world to read. Amazingly misguided policies have become the hallmark of the obama admn. This is the best response you could muster? With all the worthwhile debate we can have on this subject, you trot out yet another flaming extremist rant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Seems like some think anything they disagree with is a flaming rant. Common characteristic of a narcissist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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