AUNavyNightmare 1 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Been hearing a lot of trash talk about how Bama has owned muschamps' defenses over the years. Wonder if there is any truth to it or just a bunchanged of scarred bammers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURandy56 148 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I do believe he was 2-0 against the Tide when he was the DC back in 2006 and 2007. I guess that's called "owning." Honestly, I don't know what the particular stats were for the 2 games, just that AU won both of them when he was the DC. So, I guess one could say that Muschamp actually owned Bama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoic-one 1,543 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm sure they are including cumulative stats when he was not at AU as a DC or HC as well, but I'm not inclined to look them up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Mixed bag. Here's the list of Muschamp games against Bama: UF 2014 - 42 points (loss) UF 2011 - 38 points (loss) UT 2009 - 37 points (loss) AU 2007 - 10 points (win) AU 2006 - 15 points (win) Even with the big point totals, it's hard to say the Bama offense did much against Muschamp's defense in the national title game. They had 260 yards. The defense forced 5 turnovers and ran an INT back for a touchdown. Bama had offensive scoring drives of 57, 49, 20, 3, and 27 yards. Again, hard to pin the point total on the Texas defense. This year though? Yeah. Bama posted 670 total yards. They romped Muschamp's butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Obviously, Saban wasn't at Bama in 2006. I was just giving you Muschamp's record against Bama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUCody15 0 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Can't expect them to remember them playing us when he was DC with ole Tubby. They're most likely just referring to when he was at Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lca408 366 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Mixed bag. Here's the list of Muschamp games against Bama: UF 2014 - 42 points (loss) UF 2011 - 38 points (loss) UT 2009 - 37 points (loss) AU 2007 - 10 points (win) AU 2006 - 15 points (win) Even with the big point totals, it's hard to say the Bama offense did much against Muschamp's defense in the national title game. They had 260 yards. The defense forced 5 turnovers and ran an INT back for a touchdown. Bama had offensive scoring drives of 57, 49, 20, 3, and 27 yards. Again, hard to pin the point total on the Texas defense. This year though? Yeah. Bama posted 670 total yards. They romped Muschamp's butt. They romped him because his team had no offense and despite creating 4 turnovers, Driskel and co. did nothing and the defense got worn out, as any defense would in that situation. Even given those circumstances, if that defense had been paired with our offense in the Iron Bowl, we still win 44-42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,922 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 This year though? Yeah. Bama posted 670 total yards. They romped Muschamp's butt. Bama raped that Fla secondary and then proceeded to run all over them late in that game. Fla had some real talent on that D too - that Hargreaves kid is good.I'm more interested in seeing what kind of talent Will attracts to AU, and wanting to see how the position coaches develop the talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 lca, it wasn't the defense folding late. They had multiple touchdowns over 60 yards in the first half. It was as bad as the beating they put on us in the Iron Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb1633 1,418 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The reason UF gave up so many yards was because they were over-the-top in their aggression and basically tried to create a turnover every single play. Muschamp knew his offense couldn't do much so he tried to force turnovers so his offense didn't have to drive the length of the field. Which is why on every play either UAT was stuffed, turned the ball over, or got a massive gain. There wasn't much in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUNavyNightmare 1 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Thanks guys. Great info. I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTiger 3,896 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 lca, it wasn't the defense folding late. They had multiple touchdowns over 60 yards in the first half. It was as bad as the beating they put on us in the Iron Bowl. Well technically I guess TWO is multiple but it was ONLY two. 87 and 79 yard plays. One in 1st quarter and 1 in second quarter. The rest of the scoring plays were 2,3,4 and 6 yards. turnovers is what killed Florida and little offensive consistency. Only one of uat's scoring drives was less than 60 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 You realize that last sentence reflects negatively on the defense right? Not the offense. Bama had 5 drives of 60 or more yards. That's horrible defense. Not the offense. Not the turnovers. That's on the defense. And the long TDs were both in the first quarter. One of their first offensive snap and the second with 4:23 to play in the first. They also had two more plays of 25+ yards in the first quarter and three more 25+ yard plays in the second half. Basically, they were running wind sprints for much of the game. UF could've had our offense and, like us, they still would've lost the game. They couldn't get a stop to save their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 In spite of that, I'd say it's 2-2 between Saban's offenses and Muschamp's defenses. Auburn in 2007 and Texas in 2009 clearly got the better of Bama's offense (Texas lost because of the five turnovers and playing a back up QB, which might be the same thing said two ways). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ17 0 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Pretty impressive stats but we might as well disregard '06 & '07 because those UAT teams weren't anywhere near as good as what they have now or next year for that matter. UAT will still be a tough opponent IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,560 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Mixed bag. Here's the list of Muschamp games against Bama: UF 2014 - 42 points (loss) UF 2011 - 38 points (loss) UT 2009 - 37 points (loss) AU 2007 - 10 points (win) AU 2006 - 15 points (win) Even with the big point totals, it's hard to say the Bama offense did much against Muschamp's defense in the national title game. They had 260 yards. The defense forced 5 turnovers and ran an INT back for a touchdown. Bama had offensive scoring drives of 57, 49, 20, 3, and 27 yards. Again, hard to pin the point total on the Texas defense. This year though? Yeah. Bama posted 670 total yards. They romped Muschamp's butt. With this years offensive (Auburn) output that would have made him 5-0 (if it were at Auburn). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan4Auburn 1,626 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Mixed bag. Here's the list of Muschamp games against Bama: UF 2014 - 42 points (loss) UF 2011 - 38 points (loss) UT 2009 - 37 points (loss) AU 2007 - 10 points (win) AU 2006 - 15 points (win) Even with the big point totals, it's hard to say the Bama offense did much against Muschamp's defense in the national title game. They had 260 yards. The defense forced 5 turnovers and ran an INT back for a touchdown. Bama had offensive scoring drives of 57, 49, 20, 3, and 27 yards. Again, hard to pin the point total on the Texas defense. This year though? Yeah. Bama posted 670 total yards. They romped Muschamp's butt. Ya, one of those TD's was a pick at the end of the first half on a shovel pass. The last TD came with what like a minute left and was a total trash TD. In the game against Texas. Texas spent a quarter and a half trying to get its offense going on what they wanted to do when Colt went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,796 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 lca, it wasn't the defense folding late. They had multiple touchdowns over 60 yards in the first half. It was as bad as the beating they put on us in the Iron Bowl. So we're doomed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Nope. It was a bad game. Nothing more. Just noting that Bama worked his defense over. Again, I call it 2-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUbritt 611 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I think it's irrelevant, except to show they're worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war eagle6 0 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 This^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman334 56 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 i'm the type that has to see the product on the field first before i proclaim anything. Ellis Johnson got the best of Bama a few years ago IIRC while at SC. means jack until you do it on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburnfan91 1,407 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 i'm the type that has to see the product on the field first before i proclaim anything. Ellis Johnson got the best of Bama a few years ago IIRC while at SC. means jack until you do it on the field. That's how I see it too. I'm glad we got Muschamp but at the same time he better work out for us because he's getting $1.6 million a year even though he hasn't proven yet that he can turn the defense around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBags7277 734 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It seems a little concerning, but I still think what makes the difference is an offense that is capable of scoring on long, sustained drives consistently. Muschamp hated offense- at least that's how it appeared, and he's now paired with a HC who loves offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman334 56 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It seems a little concerning, but I still think what makes the difference is an offense that is capable of scoring on long, sustained drives consistently. Muschamp hated offense- at least that's how it appeared, and he's now paired with a HC who loves offense. i too think that has some affect on the defense. we score so dang fast at times and the guys have to get right back out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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