Carly Fiorina....."I'm Not A Token"

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

She apparently was a surprise hit at CPAC last week. I think we will hear a lot more from her.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/carly-fiorina-at-cpac-im-not-a-token/article/2560857

[cooltigger21 0]

She's not somebody to be taken lightly.

[AURaptor 1,113]

She's obviously in someone's binder now, I bet !

[WarTim 3,192]

Thanks for the LOL Raptor!!!

[DKW 86 6,364]

It has been my observation, if you are havIng to tell people that you arent a token, you are really trying to tell yourself you arent a token...

USUALLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU ARE A TOKEN, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

I'll take her at her word since (1) I don't know how big your observation sample is and (2) I don't know her or where she fits under the term "usually."

Edited March 3, 2015 by Proud Tiger

[DKW 86 6,364]

I'll take her at her word since (1) I don't know how big your observation sample is and (2) I don't know her or where she fits under the term "usually."

You think she has what chance of winning the nomination?

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

No but I do think she might emerge as a strong possibility for the VP.

[DKW 86 6,364]

No but I do think she might emerge as a strong possibility for the VP.

If she is running to change the conversation etc, i can see that. IMHO, VP maybe a huge stretch at this point.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

Who knows? I know someone who hadn't graduated to "huge stretch" this time eight years ago.

[TheBlueVue 177]

I'll take her at her word since (1) I don't know how big your observation sample is and (2) I don't know her or where she fits under the term "usually."

You think she has what chance of winning the nomination?

I dont but, I think she'd make an awesome VP candidate. She is better equipped to take on Hillary w/o being labelled a misogynist than any of the republican male candidates. And you can believe, the misogyny thing will be demagogued to high heaven once race officially begins.

[WarTim 3,192]

Smart Lady. Strong Cabinet possibilities!!!

[cooltigger21 0]

Smart Lady. Strong Cabinet possibilities!!!

Secretary of commerce or maybe OMB. Brilliant businesswoman. She would be of more value there than as VP.

[homersapien 9,734]

Smart Lady. Strong Cabinet possibilities!!!

Secretary of commerce or maybe OMB. Brilliant businesswoman. She would be of more value there than as VP.

Well, I don't know if "brilliant" is an appropriate characterization, unless you are talking about her golden parachute.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Carly_Fiorina

Fiorina presented herself as a realist regarding the effects of globalization. She has been a strong proponent, along with other technology executives, of the expansion of the H-1B visa program.^[41] In January 2004, at a meeting to "head off rising protectionist sentiment in Congress," Fiorina said: "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore. We have to compete for jobs as a nation."^[42][43][44] While Fiorina argued that the only way to "protect U.S. high-tech jobs over the long haul was to become more competitive [in the United States]," her comments prompted "strong reactions" from some technology workers who argued that lower wages outside the United States encouraged the offshoring of American jobs.^[45] Fiorina responded against protectionism in an editorial in the Wall Street Journal, writing that while "America is the most innovative country," it would not remain so if the country were to "run away from the reality of the global economy."^[46]

In early January 2005, the Hewlett-Packard board of directors discussed with Fiorina a list of issues that the board had regarding the company's performance.^[47] The board proposed a plan to shift her authority to HP division heads, which Fiorina resisted.^[48] A week after the meeting, the confidential plan was leaked to the Wall Street Journal.^[49] Less than a month later, the board brought backTom Perkins and forced Fiorina to resign as chair and chief executive officer of the company.^[50] The company's stock jumped on news of Fiorina's departure.^[51] Under the company's agreement with Fiorina, which was characterized as a golden parachute byMeredith Vieira^[52] and TIME (magazine)^[53] and Yahoo!^[54] she was paid slightly more than $20 million in severance.^[55]

Judgments on Fiorina's tenure at HP are mixed. In 2008, Infoworld grouped her with a list of products and ideas as flops, declaring her to be the "anti-Steve Jobs" for reversing the goodwill of American engineers and for alienating existing customers.^[56] In 2008, Loren Steffy of The New York Times suggested that the EDS acquisition well after Fiorina's tenure was evidence that her actions as CEO were justified.^[57] However, elsewhere, Fiorina frequently has been ranked as one of the worst CEOs of all time.^[4][5][6][7]

Edited March 4, 2015 by homersapien

[AUDub 9,950]

Smart Lady. Strong Cabinet possibilities!!!

Secretary of commerce or maybe OMB. Brilliant businesswoman. She would be of more value there than as VP.

Well, I don't know if "brilliant" is an appropriate characterization, unless you are talking about her golden parachute.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Carly_Fiorina

Fiorina presented herself as a realist regarding the effects of globalization. She has been a strong proponent, along with other technology executives, of the expansion of the H-1B visa program.^[41] In January 2004, at a meeting to "head off rising protectionist sentiment in Congress," Fiorina said: "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore. We have to compete for jobs as a nation."^[42][43][44] While Fiorina argued that the only way to "protect U.S. high-tech jobs over the long haul was to become more competitive [in the United States]," her comments prompted "strong reactions" from some technology workers who argued that lower wages outside the United States encouraged the offshoring of American jobs.^[45] Fiorina responded against protectionism in an editorial in the Wall Street Journal, writing that while "America is the most innovative country," it would not remain so if the country were to "run away from the reality of the global economy."^[46]

In early January 2005, the Hewlett-Packard board of directors discussed with Fiorina a list of issues that the board had regarding the company's performance.^[47] The board proposed a plan to shift her authority to HP division heads, which Fiorina resisted.^[48] A week after the meeting, the confidential plan was leaked to the Wall Street Journal.^[49] Less than a month later, the board brought backTom Perkins and forced Fiorina to resign as chair and chief executive officer of the company.^[50] The company's stock jumped on news of Fiorina's departure.^[51] Under the company's agreement with Fiorina, which was characterized as a golden parachute byMeredith Vieira^[52] and TIME (magazine)^[53] and Yahoo!^[54] she was paid slightly more than $20 million in severance.^[55]

Judgments on Fiorina's tenure at HP are mixed. In 2008, Infoworld grouped her with a list of products and ideas as flops, declaring her to be the "anti-Steve Jobs" for reversing the goodwill of American engineers and for alienating existing customers.^[56] In 2008, Loren Steffy of The New York Times suggested that the EDS acquisition well after Fiorina's tenure was evidence that her actions as CEO were justified.^[57] However, elsewhere, Fiorina frequently has been ranked as one of the worst CEOs of all time.^[4][5][6][7]

But she's brilliant!

[TheBlueVue 177]

Smart Lady. Strong Cabinet possibilities!!!

Secretary of commerce or maybe OMB. Brilliant businesswoman. She would be of more value there than as VP.

Well, I don't know if "brilliant" is an appropriate characterization, unless you are talking about her golden parachute.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Carly_Fiorina

Fiorina presented herself as a realist regarding the effects of globalization. She has been a strong proponent, along with other technology executives, of the expansion of the H-1B visa program.^[41] In January 2004, at a meeting to "head off rising protectionist sentiment in Congress," Fiorina said: "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore. We have to compete for jobs as a nation."^[42][43][44] While Fiorina argued that the only way to "protect U.S. high-tech jobs over the long haul was to become more competitive [in the United States]," her comments prompted "strong reactions" from some technology workers who argued that lower wages outside the United States encouraged the offshoring of American jobs.^[45] Fiorina responded against protectionism in an editorial in the Wall Street Journal, writing that while "America is the most innovative country," it would not remain so if the country were to "run away from the reality of the global economy."^[46]

In early January 2005, the Hewlett-Packard board of directors discussed with Fiorina a list of issues that the board had regarding the company's performance.^[47] The board proposed a plan to shift her authority to HP division heads, which Fiorina resisted.^[48] A week after the meeting, the confidential plan was leaked to the Wall Street Journal.^[49] Less than a month later, the board brought backTom Perkins and forced Fiorina to resign as chair and chief executive officer of the company.^[50] The company's stock jumped on news of Fiorina's departure.^[51] Under the company's agreement with Fiorina, which was characterized as a golden parachute byMeredith Vieira^[52] and TIME (magazine)^[53] and Yahoo!^[54] she was paid slightly more than $20 million in severance.^[55]

Judgments on Fiorina's tenure at HP are mixed. In 2008, Infoworld grouped her with a list of products and ideas as flops, declaring her to be the "anti-Steve Jobs" for reversing the goodwill of American engineers and for alienating existing customers.^[56] In 2008, Loren Steffy of The New York Times suggested that the EDS acquisition well after Fiorina's tenure was evidence that her actions as CEO were justified.^[57] However, elsewhere, Fiorina frequently has been ranked as one of the worst CEOs of all time.^[4][5][6][7]

But she's brilliant!

When you start as a secretary and work your way up to the CEO of the largest tech company in the world, I think its fair to say, she is definitely a brilliant woman. Its awfully easy to play on the internet ALL DAY EVERYDAY as if that somehow qualifies YOU to judge people who actually HAVE DONE something with their lives when, the reality is, your opinion says more about YOU than it does the person you're attempting to criticize.

When you 2, homie and ben actually do something...anything, besides post your personal judgments on this obscure poli-forum, I and others may be a little more interested in your POV. Of course I realize anyone who questions the coronation of your new "messiah" will be brought into the cross hairs of idiotic criticism so, carry on,.

[GiveEmElle 1,559]

Well, clearly, She's smarter than Palin. But let's wait until after the Katie Couric interview before calling her brilliant.

[TheBlueVue 177]

Well, clearly, She's smarter than Palin. But let's wait until after the Katie Couric interview before calling her brilliant.

You dont ever have to give her credit for the accomplishments of her career. Why wait to discredit her? Besides, it has become painfully obvious just how much intellect matters to being a good president. After all, Obama was hailed as the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office and his Presidency can be rightfully qualified as anything but successful. These Ivy League guys are doing a jam up job of destroying the country at home and abroad.

[AUDub 9,950]

When you start as a secretary and work your way up to the CEO of the largest tech company in the world, I think its fair to say, she is definitely a brilliant woman. Its awfully easy to play on the internet ALL DAY EVERYDAY as if that somehow qualifies YOU to judge people who actually HAVE DONE something with their lives when, the reality is, your opinion says more about YOU than it does the person you're attempting to criticize.

Oh, I have no doubt she's probably a very intelligent and likeable person, but to characterize her as a "brilliant businesswoman" when she was forced out after the company for which she was a CEOs stock tanked under her watch? Funny.

When you 2, homie and ben actually do something...anything, besides post your personal judgments on this obscure poli-forum, I and others may be a little more interested in your POV. Of course I realize anyone who questions the coronation of your new "messiah" will be brought into the cross hairs of idiotic criticism so, carry on,.

Personally, I don't really give a damn what you think of me or my POV. If you valued it, I would not.

Go pound sand.

[GiveEmElle 1,559]

Well, clearly, She's smarter than Palin. But let's wait until after the Katie Couric interview before calling her brilliant.

You dont ever have to give her credit for the accomplishments of her career. Why wait to discredit her? Besides, it has become painfully obvious just how much intellect matters to being a good president. After all, Obama was hailed as the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office and his Presidency can be rightfully qualified as anything but successful. These Ivy League guys are doing a jam up job of destroying the country at home and abroad.

It was a joke, darling. The last time the GOP found a woman to run Tina Fey made a name for herself.

But I am interested to know how Obama has destroyed America at home and abroad. I don't watch Faux News so I really have no idea.

[homersapien 9,734]

When you 2, homie and ben actually do something...anything, besides post your personal judgments on this obscure poli-forum, I and others may be a little more interested in your POV. Of course I realize anyone who questions the coronation of your new "messiah" will be brought into the cross hairs of idiotic criticism so, carry on,.

That's pathetically funny.

And really, the "messiah" jab is way too tired to qualify as wit.

[homersapien 9,734]

Well, clearly, She's smarter than Palin. But let's wait until after the Katie Couric interview before calling her brilliant.

Palin? I forgot about her.

I must admit, the "brilliant" adjective makes a lot more sense with Palin as the standard.

[TheBlueVue 177]

Well, clearly, She's smarter than Palin. But let's wait until after the Katie Couric interview before calling her brilliant.

You dont ever have to give her credit for the accomplishments of her career. Why wait to discredit her? Besides, it has become painfully obvious just how much intellect matters to being a good president. After all, Obama was hailed as the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office and his Presidency can be rightfully qualified as anything but successful. These Ivy League guys are doing a jam up job of destroying the country at home and abroad.

It was a joke, darling. The last time the GOP found a woman to run Tina Fey made a name for herself.

But I am interested to know how Obama has destroyed America at home and abroad. I don't watch Faux News so I really have no idea.

If you honestly believe the world is a safer place under Obama's foreign policy agenda of preemptive capitulation to our enemies and stiffing our allies then I cant explain it to you. Presumably, you also believe having 92 million Americans unemployed is a symptom of bang up economic recovery. Now yaboy is going to further usurp authority he does not legally have and raise taxes unilaterally...never mind the Constitution requires that ALL revenue bills originate in the House of Representatives but I digress. What this guy is doing to destroy the country is setting up horrible precedents that threaten the republic. His pettiness is only surpassed by his arrogance and petulance and everything he does is driven by his political pride and NOT what is best for the country. Since he was soundly rebuked last Nov his mission has seemingly become to do everything on his own...to to hell with the law which he clearly has no use for unless it benefits him.

His amnesty EO is the biggest abuse of Presidential power in recent history. The Presidents job is to enforce the law NOT selectively ignore the laws on immigration that he doesn't like and in so doing further grant substantive rights to people in this country illegally which is going to cost the state $100s of millions of dollars in education, healthcare and welfare expenses without the consent of those states who will hung with that bill. That's why 26 states are suing him right now. His ambition is so obvious its insulting, which is, to change the electorate in a way to insure almost permanent democrat control.

One could easily surmise that Obama's EOs signal that he would rather see his party gain permanent control of a moribund 3rd world nation than to honestly compete in the arena of ideas for part time control of an ascendant super power. The law be damned!

[TheBlueVue 177]

When you 2, homie and ben actually do something...anything, besides post your personal judgments on this obscure poli-forum, I and others may be a little more interested in your POV. Of course I realize anyone who questions the coronation of your new "messiah" will be brought into the cross hairs of idiotic criticism so, carry on,.

That's pathetically funny.

And really, the "messiah" jab is way too tired to qualify as wit.

When you 2, homie and ben actually do something...anything, besides post your personal judgments on this obscure poli-forum, I and others may be a little more interested in your POV. Of course I realize anyone who questions the coronation of your new "messiah" will be brought into the cross hairs of idiotic criticism so, carry on,.

That's pathetically funny.

And really, the "messiah" jab is way too tired to qualify as wit.

I agree it is pathetic because its true. All you progs are easily lead useful idiots who simply fall in line w/o questions no matter how bad your presumptive candidate may be. As far as the "messiah, thing being tired..thank Barbara Wawa., it was her that admitted thats the way you tools look at your presidential candidates.

[GiveEmElle 1,559]

Well, clearly, She's smarter than Palin. But let's wait until after the Katie Couric interview before calling her brilliant.

You dont ever have to give her credit for the accomplishments of her career. Why wait to discredit her? Besides, it has become painfully obvious just how much intellect matters to being a good president. After all, Obama was hailed as the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office and his Presidency can be rightfully qualified as anything but successful. These Ivy League guys are doing a jam up job of destroying the country at home and abroad.

It was a joke, darling. The last time the GOP found a woman to run Tina Fey made a name for herself.

But I am interested to know how Obama has destroyed America at home and abroad. I don't watch Faux News so I really have no idea.

If you honestly believe the world is a safer place under Obama's foreign policy agenda of preemptive capitulation to our enemies and stiffing our allies then I cant explain it to you. Presumably, you also believe having 92 million Americans unemployed is a symptom of bang up economic recovery. Now yaboy is going to further usurp authority he does not legally have and raise taxes unilaterally...never mind the Constitution requires that ALL revenue bills originate in the House of Representatives but I digress. What this guy is doing to destroy the country is setting up horrible precedents that threaten the republic. His pettiness is only surpassed by his arrogance and petulance and everything he does is driven by his political pride and NOT what is best for the country. Since he was soundly rebuked last Nov his mission has seemingly become to do everything on his own...to to hell with the law which he clearly has no use for unless it benefits him.

His amnesty EO is the biggest abuse of Presidential power in recent history. The Presidents job is to enforce the law NOT selectively ignore the laws on immigration that he doesn't like and in so doing further grant substantive rights to people in this country illegally which is going to cost the state $100s of millions of dollars in education, healthcare and welfare expenses without the consent of those states who will hung with that bill. That's why 26 states are suing him right now. His ambition is so obvious its insulting, which is, to change the electorate in a way to insure almost permanent democrat control.

One could easily surmise that Obama's EOs signal that he would rather see his party gain permanent control of a moribund 3rd world nation than to honestly compete in the arena of ideas for part time control of an ascendant super power. The law be damned!

Oh, I understand now. The world is unsafe because Obama is President. It isn't at all the fault of Radical Islamic terrorists, the moral decline of humanity, or just the existence of evil.

And unemoyment in this country is Obama's fault too. Especially in AL where a large paper mill closed. I'm sure that had nothing to do with the fact that there are things like E books, paperless billing, and reusable grocery bags. And it's certainly not the fault of corporate executives who decide to close the plant that generates the most revenue. It's all Obama.

I see clearly now.