Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Polls closed. Outcome uncertain. http://www.foxnews.c...ing-in-balance/ And then there is this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/17/obama-linked-nonprofit-filed-for-new-irs-status-after-accusation-meddling-in/ Edited March 17, 2015 by Proud Tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,113 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 My man on the beat says it's Bibi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltigger21 0 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 It seems as though Bibi has gotten a coalition together and he will remain as PM. Obama will not be happy. Neither will our resident anti Bibi yahoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,113 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Is it official ? I've not seen the word given... never mind, just saw it on twitter. Edited March 18, 2015 by AURaptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 Vote count still going on and Netanyahu is claiming victory but the other guy isn't conceding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 9,725 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Do we really want to continue to support an Israel who has rejected the concept of a two-state solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 5,665 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Do we really want to continue to support an Israel who has rejected the concept of a two-state solution? Yes! The two-state solution keeps getting Israelis killed. Palestinians might want peace, but they won't give Hezbollah the boot. Until Hezbollah is out of Palestine the terror will continue and Isreal must protect itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Do we really want to continue to support an Israel who has rejected the concept of a two-state solution? Yes! The two-state solution keeps getting Israelis killed. Palestinians might want peace, but they won't give Hezbollah the boot. Until Hezbollah is out of Palestine the terror will continue and Isreal must protect itself. Dont you mean Hamas? Hizballah is in Lebanon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 6,350 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Do we really want to continue to support an Israel who has rejected the concept of a two-state solution? Do we really want to support a Two State Solution that rejects the concept of an Israel?http://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Israeli-elections-take-dramatic-turn-as-Likud-opens-up-six-seat-lead-over-Zionist-Union-394271 Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victory Edited March 18, 2015 by DKW 86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltigger21 0 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Do we really want to continue to support an Israel who has rejected the concept of a two-state solution? Yes we do, considering that other "state" wants to wipe Israel off the map. They've made that abundantly clear but for some reason you just gloss over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegle777 63 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Do we really want to continue to support an Israel who has rejected the concept of a two-state solution? Two-state solution? Oh, you mean Palestine. Who is the second? If you know anything about history, you know that Palestine believes that Israel is non-existent and that,that land is theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltigger21 0 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Bibi gets it. He understands the threat Iran poses not only to Israel but to the Middle east as a whole and even the world. Obama either doesn't get it or he's deliberately trying to make a deal that screws Israel and this country over. He just doesn't believe we have any moral authority in the world considering all our past sins. These international agencies such as IAEA are completely inept and useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 9,725 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Wow. I am amazed at the folks who would so readily dismiss the idea of a two state solution. It is the basis of every model for a negotiated peace. Without it, perpetual conflict between Israel and Palestinians is guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 9,725 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Do we really want to continue to support an Israel who has rejected the concept of a two-state solution? Two-state solution? Oh, you mean Palestine. Who is the second? If you know anything about history, you know that Palestine believes that Israel is non-existent and that,that land is theirs. That's exactly why a two state solution is the only way to achieve piece. It makes me wonder if you really would like to see peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 9,725 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Do we really want to continue to support an Israel who has rejected the concept of a two-state solution? Yes we do, considering that other "state" wants to wipe Israel off the map. They've made that abundantly clear but for some reason you just gloss over it. And why do suppose many Palestinians feel that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 6,350 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Do you really think negotiating with a governmental organization that is sworn to your annihilation is in any way productive in the long run? Give the Israelis a different opposing governmental body, one that actually doesnt promote the genocide of the Israelis, and i bet you have peace overnite. The Egyptian Govt that negotiated the long term peace with Israel was not committed to their genocide. Peace is possible, with the right people. Edited March 18, 2015 by DKW 86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 9,725 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Yeah, I bet you'd just roll over if the Mexicans came over and threw you out of your house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegle777 63 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Do we really want to continue to support an Israel who has rejected the concept of a two-state solution? Two-state solution? Oh, you mean Palestine. Who is the second? If you know anything about history, you know that Palestine believes that Israel is non-existent and that,that land is theirs. That's exactly why a two state solution is the only way to achieve piece. It makes me wonder if you really would like to see peace. I would love for there to be peace with Israel and the Palestinians, but that isn't going to happen until the peace deal that the antichrist cuts with Israel. And that isn't really going to be a peace deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltigger21 0 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 There won't be peace until one or the other wins and the other is defeated. THAT is how you achieve peace. We ended WWII by completely defeating Germany and Japan. We've had peace with them ever since. We ended Korea and Vietnam with a cease fire and there has not been peace since in either place. These battles between Israel and the Arabs goes back to Old Testament days and it likely will continue until the end of time. The Palestinians will not be content until all the jews are gone and exterminated. Iran wants the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 6,350 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Yeah, I bet you'd just roll over if the Mexicans came over and threw you out of your house. If that is directed at me, no, i would not. I would organize myself and others and we would join together to militarily defeat anyone that would do that. I would not stoop to blowing up buses full of civilians etc and launching random rocket attacks etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltigger21 0 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Israel would gladly live in peace with the Palestinians and the rest of the nations in the ME if they would in turn leave Israel alone and stop trying to exterminate them. Unless and until that happens, which I seriously doubt will, then Israel is going to do whatever they have to do to survive. Giving up that land that would bring Hamas, Hezbollah and all the rest that much closer to them is something they are not stupid enough to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 9,725 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Yeah, I bet you'd just roll over if the Mexicans came over and threw you out of your house. If that is directed at me, no, i would not. I would organize myself and others and we would join together to militarily defeat anyone that would do that. I would not stoop to blowing up buses full of civilians etc and launching random rocket attacks etc. The hard core Palestinians are comprised of the ones who have directly experienced such persecution. And please spare me the accusations of defending acts of terrorism. I'm not. (That's not directed at you personally DKW, I am just anticipating the same old tired script from someone.) I am just trying to point out this is a lot more complex that just assuming Palestinians can only do evil and Jews are only protecting themselves. In fact, it seems to me the whole region is nothing but a dense mosaic of such feuds. One of our problems is that we persist in seeing the region simply in terms of countries. Just wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,113 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Pals had about 98% of what they asked for under Arafat, and they rejected peace. So this talk of how hardline Israel is, or Netanyahu is, I find laughable. It's noise. Empty, pathetic, static noise. Congrats Bibi. Our sorry ass President won't do it, but I tip my hat at your important win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 9,725 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Pals had about 98% of what they asked for under Arafat, and they rejected peace. So this talk of how hardline Israel is, or Netanyahu is, I find laughable. It's noise. Empty, pathetic, static noise. Congrats Bibi. Our sorry ass President won't do it, but I tip my hat at your important win. Laughable? :-\ Rejecting the very idea of a two state solution is as radical as it can get. And what is past is past regarding earlier negotiations. Perhaps the Palestinians might change their position. There's no reason not to make another attempt. Any way you cut it, you only have two basic choices. You either negotiate a peace or live with eternal terrorism. (Or "asymmetric war" as they might call it.) And you will never negotiate a peace without a Palestinian state. This is going to polarize support for Israel in this country. Just watch. Edited March 18, 2015 by homersapien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,113 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The only terrorism is coming from the Pals, who are backed by... Iran. Shocker ! And you wonder why Bibi doesn't trust Obama or Tehran ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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