Bo Bergdahl to Be Charged With Desertion

[AUUSN 823]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

[autigeremt 6,589]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

With all due respect you cannot infer that DKW doesn't understand the UCMJ when asking a question of reference to Bergdahl.

He has a lot of mountains to climb to get out of this. Why are you defending a soldier whose own platoon mates consider a deserter by their own accounts? I can see defending process, but defending him in the face of consistent accounts is odd.

[AUUSN 823]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

With all due respect you cannot infer that DKW doesn't understand the UCMJ when asking a question of reference to Bergdahl.

He has a lot of mountains to climb to get out of this. Why are you defending a soldier whose own platoon mates consider a deserter by their own accounts? I can see defending process, but defending him in the face of consistent accounts is odd.

Holy crap, everyone has lost it! Real patriotism is defending someone's constitutional rights no matter how much of a low life that person is. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone...

[autigeremt 6,589]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

With all due respect you cannot infer that DKW doesn't understand the UCMJ when asking a question of reference to Bergdahl.

He has a lot of mountains to climb to get out of this. Why are you defending a soldier whose own platoon mates consider a deserter by their own accounts? I can see defending process, but defending him in the face of consistent accounts is odd.

Holy crap, everyone has lost it! Real patriotism is defending someone's constitutional rights no matter how much of a low life that person is. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone...

I asked a simple question. Not the constitutional type, but the personal opinion type. Maybe it's you and not everyone else? And crap isn't Holy......it's just crap.

[AUUSN 823]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

With all due respect you cannot infer that DKW doesn't understand the UCMJ when asking a question of reference to Bergdahl.

He has a lot of mountains to climb to get out of this. Why are you defending a soldier whose own platoon mates consider a deserter by their own accounts? I can see defending process, but defending him in the face of consistent accounts is odd.

Holy crap, everyone has lost it! Real patriotism is defending someone's constitutional rights no matter how much of a low life that person is. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone...

I asked a simple question. Not the constitutional type, but the personal opinion type. Maybe it's you and not everyone else? And crap isn't Holy......it's just crap.

If it's just me standing up for his rights then so be it. So here I am saying yet again that Bergdahl deserves complete due process as guaranteed in the UCMJ. That includes the investigation, the article 32 hearing and the court martial. All you other fake patriots can have a seat and please keep your head down.

[AUFAN78 3,892]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

With all due respect you cannot infer that DKW doesn't understand the UCMJ when asking a question of reference to Bergdahl.

He has a lot of mountains to climb to get out of this. Why are you defending a soldier whose own platoon mates consider a deserter by their own accounts? I can see defending process, but defending him in the face of consistent accounts is odd.

Holy crap, everyone has lost it! Real patriotism is defending someone's constitutional rights no matter how much of a low life that person is. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone...

I asked a simple question. Not the constitutional type, but the personal opinion type. Maybe it's you and not everyone else? And crap isn't Holy......it's just crap.

If it's just me standing up for his rights then so be it. So here I am saying yet again that Bergdahl deserves complete due process as guaranteed in the UCMJ. That includes the investigation, the article 32 hearing and the court martial. All you other fake patriots can have a seat and please keep your head down.

Pardon me for not reading thru 15 pages, but who doesn't believe he deserves due process?

[AUUSN 823]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

With all due respect you cannot infer that DKW doesn't understand the UCMJ when asking a question of reference to Bergdahl.

He has a lot of mountains to climb to get out of this. Why are you defending a soldier whose own platoon mates consider a deserter by their own accounts? I can see defending process, but defending him in the face of consistent accounts is odd.

Holy crap, everyone has lost it! Real patriotism is defending someone's constitutional rights no matter how much of a low life that person is. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone...

I asked a simple question. Not the constitutional type, but the personal opinion type. Maybe it's you and not everyone else? And crap isn't Holy......it's just crap.

If it's just me standing up for his rights then so be it. So here I am saying yet again that Bergdahl deserves complete due process as guaranteed in the UCMJ. That includes the investigation, the article 32 hearing and the court martial. All you other fake patriots can have a seat and please keep your head down.

Pardon me for not reading thru 15 pages, but who doesn't believe he deserves due process?

You need to read through the 15 pages.

[WarTim 3,456]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

With all due respect you cannot infer that DKW doesn't understand the UCMJ when asking a question of reference to Bergdahl.

He has a lot of mountains to climb to get out of this. Why are you defending a soldier whose own platoon mates consider a deserter by their own accounts? I can see defending process, but defending him in the face of consistent accounts is odd.

Holy crap, everyone has lost it! Real patriotism is defending someone's constitutional rights no matter how much of a low life that person is. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone...

I asked a simple question. Not the constitutional type, but the personal opinion type. Maybe it's you and not everyone else? And crap isn't Holy......it's just crap.

If it's just me standing up for his rights then so be it. So here I am saying yet again that Bergdahl deserves complete due process as guaranteed in the UCMJ. That includes the investigation, the article 32 hearing and the court martial. All you other fake patriots can have a seat and please keep your head down.

SMH. He will and already has recieved his rights. Then, he will be found guilty. Wanna bet?

[alexava 6,973]

Other than this forum, every opinion i have seen is he is 100% guilty of desertion. Maybe worse. His only hope to avoid significant punishment is mental illness. Just what i gather from various articles. I'm not sure if it is even worth debating. In this discussion on this forum due process does not exist. It does in the real world.

[AUFAN78 3,892]

Who amongst us does not believe Bergdahl deserves due process? And please tell me why?

[AUUSN 823]

Other than this forum, every opinion i have seen is he is 100% guilty of desertion. Maybe worse. His only hope to avoid significant punishment is mental illness. Just what i gather from various articles. I'm not sure if it is even worth debating. In this discussion on this forum due process does not exist. It does in the real world.

I agree and the government must make its case. They will have to explain why they promoted a deserter.

[AUUSN 823]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

With all due respect you cannot infer that DKW doesn't understand the UCMJ when asking a question of reference to Bergdahl.

He has a lot of mountains to climb to get out of this. Why are you defending a soldier whose own platoon mates consider a deserter by their own accounts? I can see defending process, but defending him in the face of consistent accounts is odd.

Holy crap, everyone has lost it! Real patriotism is defending someone's constitutional rights no matter how much of a low life that person is. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone...

I asked a simple question. Not the constitutional type, but the personal opinion type. Maybe it's you and not everyone else? And crap isn't Holy......it's just crap.

If it's just me standing up for his rights then so be it. So here I am saying yet again that Bergdahl deserves complete due process as guaranteed in the UCMJ. That includes the investigation, the article 32 hearing and the court martial. All you other fake patriots can have a seat and please keep your head down.

SMH. He will and already has recieved his rights. Then, he will be found guilty. Wanna bet?

[DKW 86 7,419]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

And we are heading there eventually. Process is moving slowly. You said HE WAS BEING DENIED. Show us how he is actively being denied his rights.

No one here wants his rights denied. NO ONE. This is just another red herring thrown in here to stink the place up.

Show us where he is actually being denied his rights please.

[DKW 86 7,419]

Other than this forum, every opinion i have seen is he is 100% guilty of desertion. Maybe worse. His only hope to avoid significant punishment is mental illness. Just what i gather from various articles. I'm not sure if it is even worth debating. In this discussion on this forum due process does not exist. It does in the real world.

I agree and the government must make its case. They will have to explain why they promoted a deserter.

http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/03/alleged-fort-hood-shooter-nidal-hasan-receives-promotion-legion-of-merit/

FORT LEAVENWORTH, KS — Army officials have confirmed that Nidal Hasan was promoted to Lieutenant Colonel yesterday in a small and solemn ceremony in the gathering room of Fort Leavenworth’s maximum security prison.

Read more: http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/03/alleged-fort-hood-shooter-nidal-hasan-receives-promotion-legion-of-merit/#ixzz3VYo2zHc9

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/bergdahl.asp

Bowe Bergdahl was promoted (in absentia) to the rank of sergeant on 17 June 2011. He was the sole American soldier held by Taliban insurgents until he was released in May 2014, after nearly five years in captivity, in exchange for five Afghan prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/bergdahl.asp#3SWekQXRZOfGhXQF.99

[WarTim 3,456]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

With all due respect you cannot infer that DKW doesn't understand the UCMJ when asking a question of reference to Bergdahl.

He has a lot of mountains to climb to get out of this. Why are you defending a soldier whose own platoon mates consider a deserter by their own accounts? I can see defending process, but defending him in the face of consistent accounts is odd.

Holy crap, everyone has lost it! Real patriotism is defending someone's constitutional rights no matter how much of a low life that person is. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone...

I asked a simple question. Not the constitutional type, but the personal opinion type. Maybe it's you and not everyone else? And crap isn't Holy......it's just crap.

If it's just me standing up for his rights then so be it. So here I am saying yet again that Bergdahl deserves complete due process as guaranteed in the UCMJ. That includes the investigation, the article 32 hearing and the court martial. All you other fake patriots can have a seat and please keep your head down.

SMH. He will and already has recieved his rights. Then, he will be found guilty. Wanna bet?

its getting old. We have seen your boyfriends picture enough. Spend your time and our tax dollars on tasks that fit your abilities. Now swab that deck and clean the head!!!

[Mims44 1,867]

Whoa, this guy got promoted while he was gone?

No boards or anything?

Wonder if treatment changed for him since he upped in NATO class while in captivity lol

[AUUSN 823]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

And we are heading there eventually. Process is moving slowly. You said HE WAS BEING DENIED. Show us how he is actively being denied his rights.

No one here wants his rights denied. NO ONE. This is just another red herring thrown in here to stink the place up.

Show us where he is actually being denied his rights please.

I have never said he is being denied his due process rights. I am accusing people here of wanting to deny them and get straight to the "b!tch slapping."

[AUUSN 823]

its getting old. We have seen your boyfriends picture enough. Spend your time and our tax dollars on tasks that fit your abilities. Now swab that deck and clean the head!!!

Nope. Everytime you respond to me with your typical idiocy, he's coming out. He's the visual representation of what you and the rest of your posse look like while stirring up nonsense on this forum.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

WT.......old Navy saying.......never argue with a tug boat chief.

[DKW 86 7,419]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

And we are heading there eventually. Process is moving slowly. You said HE WAS BEING DENIED. Show us how he is actively being denied his rights.

No one here wants his rights denied. NO ONE. This is just another red herring thrown in here to stink the place up.

Show us where he is actually being denied his rights please.

I have never said he is being denied his due process rights. I am accusing people here of wanting to deny them and get straight to the "b!tch slapping."

Well then we have an obvious communication problem. While you may think he hasnt been given upto this point, I would have to conclude after being in the military and seeing multiple UCMJ Investigations that he was already fully involved in his own defense.

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  Bergdahl's attorney Eugene Fidell told ABC News he spent the day at Ft. Sam Houston preparing Bergdahl for questioning, reviewing investigative reports and ...[*]

  Bowe Bergdahl Thanks Obama for 'Saving His Life' - The ...

  www.thedailybeast.com/.../exclusive-bowe-bergdahl-than...

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  The Daily Beast

  Jul 16, 2014 - Fidell declined to say who reached out to him, but he is taking the case pro bono and working with Bergdahl's Army appointed lawyer, a senior ...[*]

  'As Cooperative as Possible': Bergdahl Preps for Army Grilling

  www.nbcnews.com/...bergdahl.../cooperative-possible-ber...

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  Aug 5, 2014 - Bergdahl's attorney, Eugene Fidell, told NBC News that was meeting ...general, was appointed to investigate Bergdahl's 2009 disappearance.[*]

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  CBS News

  Aug 7, 2014 - Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl's lawyer says former POW is grateful to Obama ...days from his appointment to conclude his investigation; however, he can ...[*]

  Attorney says Army has begun questioning Bergdahl | The ...

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  The Seattle Times

  Aug 6, 2014 - Attorney says Army has begun questioning Bergdahl ... The Armyappointed Dahl to carry out what is known as an AR 15-6 investigation and ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/07/16/sgt-bowe-bergdahl-retains-lawyer-amid-army-investigation/

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl retains lawyer amid Army investigation By Stephanie McCrummen July 16, 2014

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CNN) -- A U.S. soldier captured in Afghanistan in 2009 has received his second promotion while in captivity, U.S. Central Command announced Friday.

With the promotion, Bowe Bergdahl, 25, rises to the rank of sergeant. He was last promoted in June 2010 to the rank of specialist, according to Central Command.

Brig. Gen. Rick Mustion, the adjutant general of the Army, traveled to Bergdahl's hometown of Hailey, Idaho, on Thursday to deliver the promotion certificate to his parents.

The Army has been giving Bergdahl promotions that would have come to him had his Army career gone as planned. If he returns home safely, the Army will give him all the back pay that he has earned while in captivity.

Bergdahl was a private first class when he disappeared in June 2009, after finishing his guard shift at a combat outpost in southeastern Afghanistan's Paktika province. He has been seen in several videos released by the Taliban.

His whereabouts today are unknown, though some security analysts say it is likely he is in Pakistan.

In December, Bergdahl appeared in footage released by Manba al-Jihad, a video production group associated with the Taliban.

A speaker said the Paktia mujahedeen captured the soldier, and he is in the custody of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (the Taliban) and has all "Islamic rights." In the nearly 45-minute video, Bowe Bergdahl wears an open-necked tan shirt and has a large abrasion on his left cheek, just below the eye.

Bergdahl's father, Robert Bergdahl, made his first public appeal last month for his son's release, using a YouTube video recording to address the Taliban and its allies.

In the video, the elder Bergdahl also conveyed "compassionate respect" to the people of Pakistan, who have endured war, earthquakes, floods and crop failures.

He concluded the video with a message to his son: "God bless you! We love you! We have been quiet in public, but we have not been quiet behind the scenes. Continue to be patient and kind to those around you. You are not forgotten. You are not forgotten."

Bergdahl is assigned to 1st Battalion, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, Fort Richardson, Alaska.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/17/afghanistan.captured.soldier/

[AUUSN 823]

I am a veteran. Of course i know about the UCMJ and how it works.

Can you site a few valid written articles where it is demonstrated that Bergdahl is in anyway being denied due process?

With this statement, it's clear you don't know. Bergdahl could have exercised his article 31 rights and told the investigator to go pound sand.......hence the need for a freaking trial by court martial.

And we are heading there eventually. Process is moving slowly. You said HE WAS BEING DENIED. Show us how he is actively being denied his rights.

No one here wants his rights denied. NO ONE. This is just another red herring thrown in here to stink the place up.

Show us where he is actually being denied his rights please.

I have never said he is being denied his due process rights. I am accusing people here of wanting to deny them and get straight to the "b!tch slapping."

Well then we have an obvious communication problem. While you may think he hasnt been given upto this point, I would have to conclude after being in the military and seeing multiple UCMJ Investigations that he was already fully involved in his own defense.

• Waiting and Advocating for Sgt Bowe Bergdahl, US Army ...
  https://www.facebook.com/supportbowe
  
  
  

  Bergdahl's attorney Eugene Fidell told ABC News he spent the day at Ft. Sam Houston preparing Bergdahl for questioning, reviewing investigative reports and ...[*] Bowe Bergdahl Thanks Obama for 'Saving His Life' - The ...

  www.thedailybeast.com/.../exclusive-bowe-bergdahl-than...

  
  
  The Daily Beast
  Jul 16, 2014 - Fidell declined to say who reached out to him, but he is taking the case pro bono and working with Bergdahl's Army appointed lawyer, a senior ...[*] 'As Cooperative as Possible': Bergdahl Preps for Army Grilling

  www.nbcnews.com/...bergdahl.../cooperative-possible-ber...

  
  
  NBCNews.com
  Aug 5, 2014 - Bergdahl's attorney, Eugene Fidell, told NBC News that was meeting ...general, was appointed to investigate Bergdahl's 2009 disappearance.[*] Bowe Bergdahl in "good spirits" after Army questioning ...

  www.cbsnews.com/.../bowe-bergdahl-in-good-spirits-after-ar...

  
  
  CBS News
  Aug 7, 2014 - Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl's lawyer says former POW is grateful to Obama ...days from his appointment to conclude his investigation; however, he can ...[*] Attorney says Army has begun questioning Bergdahl | The ...

  www.seattletimes.com/.../attorney-says-army-has-begu...

  
  
  The Seattle Times
  Aug 6, 2014 - Attorney says Army has begun questioning Bergdahl ... The Armyappointed Dahl to carry out what is known as an AR 15-6 investigation and ...

http://www.washingto...-investigation/

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl retains lawyer amid Army investigation By Stephanie McCrummen July 16, 2014

I theorized that's its possible and it still is he has exercised his article 31 rights. That still doesnt change the fact that people here want to march him, right now, to the firing squad.

[AUUSN 823]

WT.......old Navy saying.......never argue with a tug boat chief.

[DKW 86 7,419]

Firing Squad? Not me, i think at most he does about 24-36 months.

The backpay situation chafes me some, but he was in captivity...of a sort.

[Mims44 1,867]

Wait, two promotions?

He left as a PFC and came back as a SGT?

Some people are stuck at SPC for years, some never make it to SGT, yet they just hand out promotions?