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For those about to jump to conclusions around here:

1) A deal with Iran would be supported by every American everywhere.

2) From dealings in the past, no one trusts dealing with the Iranian Govt.

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MY President said this agreement was " unprecedented "

And that's the truth !

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Posting a quote from a Free Beacon article is not exactly the same as quoting the Iranian government.

I think this is a bogus "news report". It's also full of political spin, which is hardly surprising.

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Believing in Iran is just like believing Saban.....hell, Saban might actually fool you once in awhile.

It's political but hey.....MSNBC is happy, happy, happy. Lol

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Believing in Iran is just like believing Saban.....hell, Saban might actually fool you once in awhile.

It's political but hey.....MSNBC is happy, happy, happy. Lol

So is navy boy and Homer. Barry is the greatest president ever "Peace in our time"
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Only a naive fool would believe we could make any workable deal with these people.

The US negotiated the right to inspect Iran's facilities for the next 20 years. The level of transparency and accountability in this deal is such that trust really doesn't even enter the equation.

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Only a naive fool would believe we could make any workable deal with these people.

The US negotiated the right to inspect Iran's facilities for the next 20 years. The level of transparency and accountability in this deal is such that trust really doesn't even enter the equation.

You serious? This isn't an issue of dealing with the neighbors across the street. The primary reason for Iran even dealing with nuclear energy is to wipe Israel off of the map. If you listen to what they have said over the years, it would be pretty clear.
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Lol! Zarif spins and the America haters lap it up. They have constantly accused Iran of lies but when Zarif says something that contrdicts Obama, oh he's the most trust worthy guy ever, he's so dreamy! I guess we'll all know on 30 June.

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Only a naive fool would believe we could make any workable deal with these people.

The US negotiated the right to inspect Iran's facilities for the next 20 years. The level of transparency and accountability in this deal is such that trust really doesn't even enter the equation.

Son you have a lot to learn about things here. You think Iran will actually let these inspectors do their job . They got the sanctions lifted. which is what they actually wanted,and they now have been rescued and can continue to oppress their people and sponsor even more terrorism around the world. Russia is going to protect them just like they've protected Assad. Iran has been adamant about no inspections and keeping all their underground facilities and all of a sudden they capitulated. yeah right. They just gave Obama a bone to make him look good for now and they can keep right on "negotiating" Obama and Kerry will cave in and give them everything they want because they are desperate to actually make a deal and Iran knows it.
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Many Iranians celebrated publicly and privately the announcement of a preliminary agreementin Lausanne that could lead to a permanent nuclear deal that would curb Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.

Sanctions imposed on Iran have made life more difficult for ordinary Iranians who are hoping that a permanent nuclear deal will lead to a better economy, more work opportunities, and better ties with the world.

Amateur videos posted online and images by citizens and news agencies showed people honking and celebrating late into the night in Tehran.

http://www.rferl.org/content/iran-nuclear-agreement-celebrations-tehran-sanctions/26936199.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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If finalised by its 30 June deadline and implemented, the nuclear accord could put an end to a prolonged and multidimensional standoff; effectively block overt and clandestine pathways to nuclear militarisation; set a positive precedent for the non-proliferation regime; provide the Iranian people with economic relief; offer a path for normalising Iran’s relationship with the international community; and thus open the door to the possibility of constructive engagement on critical issues of peace and security in the Middle East.

Negotiated outcomes by nature are imperfect. These agreed upon parameters provide Iran with an enrichment capacity higher than the U.S. and its allies preferred, and sanctions relief slower and more circumscribed than Iran desired. But both sides have protected their core interests and rightfully can claim victory – a precondition for any sustainable solution.

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/publication-type/media-releases/2015/middle-east-north-africa/statement-iran-nuclear-talks-a-landmark-achievement-yet-a-long-road-ahead.aspx?utm_source=sm&utm_medium=tw&utm_campaign=iran-deal

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Open Letter to Iran’s and the P5+1/EU3+3’s Nuclear Negotiators

Brussels | 2 Apr 2015

Please note this statement is also available in Persian.

We would like to recognise the nuclear negotiators representing China, the European Union, France, Germany, Iran, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States for their unwavering endeavours since October 2013, which have led to agreement on the framework for a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, announced on 2 April 2015.

As veteran practitioners of statecraft who understand the challenges of principled, patient and persistent diplomacy under tremendous domestic and external constraints, we applaud the negotiators for their courage, resolve and flexibility. Solving seemingly intractable international standoffs through peaceful means is a rarity in our troubled times; solutions that provide for win-win outcomes are even rarer.

Like all negotiated solutions, this understanding may not satisfy all stakeholders, but its realistic alternatives – a cycle of mutual escalation leading to an Iranian bomb or bombing Iran – will not stand them in better stead. Nor will this compromise assuredly reduce regional tensions; but its absence would likely further enflame them.

This understanding nonetheless stands as a singular accomplishment of our time, negotiated in good faith, with both sides achieving the maximum attainable under the circumstances. To ensure that this laudable step will lead to a lasting accord, we urge the negotiators to preserve the momentum and promptly finalise the remaining details – as well as critics to give them a chance.

Samuel Berger Former U.S. National Security Adviser, member of International Crisis Group’s Board of Trustees.

Carl Bildt Former Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Sweden, member of International Crisis Group’s Board of Trustees.

Emma Bonino Former Foreign Minister of Italy, member of International Crisis Group’s Board of Trustees.

Micheline Calmy-Rey Former President and Foreign Minister of the Swiss Confederation, member of International Crisis Group’s Board of Trustees.

Jean-Marie Guéhenno President and CEO of International Crisis Group, former Deputy Joint Special Envoy of the UN and the League of Arab States on Syria, former UN Under Secretary-General for peacekeeping operations.

Thomas R. Pickering Former U.S. Undersecretary of State, Ambassador to the UN, Russia, India, Israel, Jordan, El Salvador and Nigeria, member of International Crisis Group’s Board of Trustees.

Javier Solana Former EU High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy and Secretary General of the Council of the EU, former Secretary General of NATO, member of International Crisis Group’s Board of Trustees.

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That was actually a good article but then the author went into cooltiggy mode and voided his entire argument:

"This is a man who repeatedly made false assertions to Americans about his healthcare overhaul, was humiliated and routed by adversaries in the Syrian 'red line' debacle, and green-lit and (attempted to whitewash) an unpopular (and unlawful) deal trading five top-level terrorists back to the Taliban in exchange for an accused American deserter. His credibility on foreign policy is quite low, as is the American public's overall opinion of Iran's trustworthiness and intentions:"

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AUUSN would gleefully show pics of US prisoners being held in Tehran , so this is no real surprise.

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AUUSN would gleefully show pics of US prisoners being held in Tehran , so this is no real surprise.

The fact that he is in our military does not give me comfort. It actually gives me great concern that there are a lot more just like him. There are way too many obama sycophants in the top brass and they are more concerned about their career than anything else.
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AUUSN would gleefully show pics of US prisoners being held in Tehran , so this is no real surprise.

The fact that he is in our military does not give me comfort. It actually gives me great concern that there are a lot more just like him. There are way too many obama sycophants in the top brass and they are more concerned about their career than anything else.

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Trusting the Iranian government is foolish at best, but people like AUUSN think they can change because they think peace is possible in that part of the world. It never has been, and never will be. Baked into the cake. I don't have that much faith in people who have a foundation for terror and ultra conservatism.

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Only a naive fool would believe we could make any workable deal with these people.

The US negotiated the right to inspect Iran's facilities for the next 20 years. The level of transparency and accountability in this deal is such that trust really doesn't even enter the equation.

You serious? This isn't an issue of dealing with the neighbors across the street. The primary reason for Iran even dealing with nuclear energy is to wipe Israel off of the map. If you listen to what they have said over the years, it would be pretty clear.

Speaking of serious, what exactly is your proposal if not this agreement?

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The devil is always in the details as they say. From what we know so far of this "framework" it's a bad deal. http://townhall.com/...l&newsletterad=

Townhall thinks it's a bad deal?? I am shocked I tell you, shocked! :-\

Don't you know that Obama is incapable of producing a good deal?

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Trusting the Iranian government is foolish at best, but people like AUUSN think they can change because they think peace is possible in that part of the world. It never has been, and never will be. Baked into the cake. I don't have that much faith in people who have a foundation for terror and ultra conservatism.

The regime knows they need to change if they want to stay in power. If they don't then they will suffer the same fate as ex Tunisian President Zine el Abidine Ben Ali. You and your posse keep recycling the same, tired argument. Maybe one day you'll actually convince yourself. I'm looking forward, you keep looking back.

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