quietfan 233 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Three questions: 1. How many here know the definition of "argumentum ad hominem"? If not: https://en.wikipedia....i/Ad_hominem or http://www.merriam-w...nary/ad hominem 2. What is the average number of occurrences of this per page in the "Politically Speaking" forum? (A somewhat rhetorical question because I don't expect anyone to actually wade through the morass of past posts.) 3. Why does anyone see any value in making such posts? It doesn't matter if your I.Q. is 35 or 235, if you have a point to make, others should only address the facts or logic of the words in that point, not your personal level of intelligence. You may be the spawn of Satan or the next incarnation of Christ, but your words carry only the weight of their own logic, and your character or past positions on other subjects are moot points. I don't care if you're Christian, Muslim or atheist; conservative, liberal or nihilist; Democrat, Republican or Independent...your view of another person's character or political history has NO bearing on the accuracy or rationality of that person's current words or argument. Whether a poster is stupid, brilliant, brainwashed, conservative, liberal, Christian, heathen, "Libtard", or "FOX-bot", and whatever circles they associate with, sewing or otherwise; please: Respond to their comments on the strength or weakness of their arguments, the accuracy and rationality of their claims. Attacking their person, their political affiliations, or their intelligence says nothing about the validity of their words and just makes you look petty or "debate-challenged" yourself. (And wastes a lot of my reading time as well!!) - - - - - - - - - - - - - That said: Sorry for the rant, I'm just feeling particularly moody this afternoon and such ad hominem attacks are leaving me more irritated or exasperated than usual. Excuse the 'sand in my vagina', but I really needed to vent. ....I know for many of you I'm preaching to the choir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,147 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 You're wrong because you're a liberal and smell funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 You're wrong because you're a liberal and smell funny. Oh yeah? You probably have an over sized nose and ego to match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 You're wrong because you're a liberal and smell funny. Not like elderberries I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubfaninga 16 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Three questions: 1. How many here know the definition of "argumentum ad hominem"? If not: https://en.wikipedia....i/Ad_hominem or http://www.merriam-w...nary/ad hominem 2. What is the average number of occurrences of this per page in the "Politically Speaking" forum? (A somewhat rhetorical question because I don't expect anyone to actually wade through the morass of past posts.) 3. Why does anyone see any value in making such posts? It doesn't matter if your I.Q. is 35 or 235, if you have a point to make, others should only address the facts or logic of the words in that point, not your personal level of intelligence. You may be the spawn of Satan or the next incarnation of Christ, but your words carry only the weight of their own logic, and your character or past positions on other subjects are moot points. I don't care if you're Christian, Muslim or atheist; conservative, liberal or nihilist; Democrat, Republican or Independent...your view of another person's character or political history has NO bearing on the accuracy or rationality of that person's current words or argument. Whether a poster is stupid, brilliant, brainwashed, conservative, liberal, Christian, heathen, "Libtard", or "FOX-bot", and whatever circles they associate with, sewing or otherwise; please: Respond to their comments on the strength or weakness of their arguments, the accuracy and rationality of their claims. Attacking their person, their political affiliations, or their intelligence says nothing about the validity of their words and just makes you look petty or "debate-challenged" yourself. (And wastes a lot of my reading time as well!!) - - - - - - - - - - - - - That said: Sorry for the rant, I'm just feeling particularly moody this afternoon and such ad hominem attacks are leaving me more irritated or exasperated than usual. Excuse the 'sand in my vagina', but I really needed to vent. :realmad:/> ....I know for many of you I'm preaching to the choir! ;)/> I needed this today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,103 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 You're wrong because you're a liberal and smell funny. Not like elderberries I hope. Somebody say elderberry.........Sorry had to do it but also this is a great movie Frank Capra's 1944 classic "Arsenic And Old Lace" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,122 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 At least my momma didn't dress me funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubfaninga 16 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 augolf reminds me so much of the butler from "Mr. Deeds". Just when you forget he lurks all of the forums he shoots a youtube video out relating to something said. "Sneaky, very Sneaky".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUtiger98 24 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Three questions: 1. How many here know the definition of "argumentum ad hominem"? If not: https://en.wikipedia....i/Ad_hominem or http://www.merriam-w...nary/ad hominem 2. What is the average number of occurrences of this per page in the "Politically Speaking" forum? (A somewhat rhetorical question because I don't expect anyone to actually wade through the morass of past posts.) 3. Why does anyone see any value in making such posts? It doesn't matter if your I.Q. is 35 or 235, if you have a point to make, others should only address the facts or logic of the words in that point, not your personal level of intelligence. You may be the spawn of Satan or the next incarnation of Christ, but your words carry only the weight of their own logic, and your character or past positions on other subjects are moot points. I don't care if you're Christian, Muslim or atheist; conservative, liberal or nihilist; Democrat, Republican or Independent...your view of another person's character or political history has NO bearing on the accuracy or rationality of that person's current words or argument. Whether a poster is stupid, brilliant, brainwashed, conservative, liberal, Christian, heathen, "Libtard", or "FOX-bot", and whatever circles they associate with, sewing or otherwise; please: Respond to their comments on the strength or weakness of their arguments, the accuracy and rationality of their claims. Attacking their person, their political affiliations, or their intelligence says nothing about the validity of their words and just makes you look petty or "debate-challenged" yourself. (And wastes a lot of my reading time as well!!) - - - - - - - - - - - - - That said: Sorry for the rant, I'm just feeling particularly moody this afternoon and such ad hominem attacks are leaving me more irritated or exasperated than usual. Excuse the 'sand in my vagina', but I really needed to vent. ....I know for many of you I'm preaching to the choir! Great post. I don't hang our here as much as some do. When I see the topic on the main page I find the topic I'm interested in and it seems like 90% of the time by the 2nd page the opposing view has derailed the thread using this tactic. Maybe I don't hang around as much because of this happening on so many post. When some topics have a thoughtful discussion, I sometimes find I have things in common with people I didn't think I would. It's funny, when I've mention this in threads I get accused of getting my "feelings hurt" or "playing the victim" LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 Go away or I shall taunt you a second time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,462 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 What a bunch of wimpy, cissy, cry babies. REAL men don't win arguments with facts and information. That BS is for pansy, poetic, socialist, intellectual, liberals. You have to make stuff up and talk tough. It aint what you say, it's how you say it. LIbtards, SMH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Go away or I shall taunt you a second time! "I fart in your general direction. Your Mother was a hamster & your Father smelt of ELDERBERRIES..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,147 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 "I fart in your general direction. Your Mother was a hamster & your Father smelt of ELDERBERRIES..." El Clasico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 "I fart in your general direction. Your Mother was a hamster & your Father smelt of ELDERBERRIES..." El Clasico Oh, you went there didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,456 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Be very careful mentioning hamsters......They are related to "gerbils".......Just sayin'....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 "I fart in your general direction. Your Mother was a hamster & your Father smelt of ELDERBERRIES..." El Clasico Oh, you went there didn't you? Okay, did i miss an Al Sharpton reference in this thread? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,147 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Okay, did i miss an Al Sharpton reference in this thread? lol Let's just say someone took it the wrong way when I repeated that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Okay, did i miss an Al Sharpton reference in this thread? lol Let's just say someone took it the wrong way when I repeated that line. Oh....okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,894 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Be very careful mentioning hamsters......They are related to "gerbils".......Just sayin'....... You are offensive! Homey, he didn't mean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Case in point: http://www.nbcnews.c...assions-n383796 "Justice Breyer speculates that it does not 'seem likely' that the death penalty has a 'significant' deterrent effect," he wrote later. "But we federal judges live in a world apart from the vast majority of Americans. After work, we retire to homes in placid suburbia or to high-rise co-ops with guards at the door. "We are not confronted with the threat of violence that is ever present in many Americans' everyday lives. The suggestion that the incremental deterrent effect of capital punishment does not seem 'significant' reflects, it seems to me, a let-them-eat-cake obliviousness to the needs of others. Let the People decide how much incremental deterrence is appropriate." Wouldn't it have been a more effective rebuttal if Justice Scalia had simply produced some facts or figures rebutting her speculation, rather than insulting her as "oblivious to the needs of others"? Or just leave out the middle and stop with: "Justice Breyer speculates that it does not 'seem likely' that the death penalty has a 'significant' deterrent effect. Let the People decide how much incremental deterrence is appropriate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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