It is trending that our last two HC hires have been

[AuburnSpider 2]

Afraid so unless, and I know peeps are gonna scream, but I think the only other option would be to name Muschamp. I still think he can handle an SEC D and after his Fl experience I think he could manage to bring in a OC to handle the O. There just are not going to be any name coaches out there that want to come into this hornets nest especially with the a turdtown king across the state. Auburn has always been more productive with a D guy as HC.

[AUbritt 611]

Afraid so unless, and I know peeps are gonna scream, but I think the only other option would be to name Muschamp. I still think he can handle an SEC D and after his Fl experience I think he could manage to bring in a OC to handle the O. There just are not going to be any name coaches out there that want to come into this hornets nest especially with the a turdtown king across the state

Brilliant.

[TitanTiger 20,469]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

[mdp5150 167]

Afraid so unless, and I know peeps are gonna scream, but I think the only other option would be to name Muschamp. I still think he can handle an SEC D and after his Fl experience I think he could manage to bring in a OC to handle the O. There just are not going to be any name coaches out there that want to come into this hornets nest especially with the a turdtown king across the state. Auburn has always been more productive with a D guy as HC.

So basically what they did with CGM except substitute D for O and add in a mixture of "complete failure as head coach" ?

[TigerOne 1,138]

this^ but Gus has become predictable, afraid, stubborn and suffers from tunnel vision it would seem. We have great players, get the ball in their hands. We saw a little of that today.

[WarTiger 3,896]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Exactly. We need continuity in the program. Making a coaching change every time things don't go like we want them too is ridiculous. All these knee jerk reactions don't serve any purpose at all.

[AuburnSpider 2]

Bowden fired himself and the Petrine hire at that moment would have saved Auburn a lot of headaches, if we could have kept him off his hogs.

[AUIH1 1,515]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Ok, what do you suggest given what resources are being given to Gus across the board? What is acceptable? IMO, it is never acceptable to be humiliated on the field (by score or lack of preparedness, effort, desire) like we witnessed against Texas A&M, especially uga, Wisconsin, Jax State and especially today against LSU.

I can understand concern about hiring a new HC primarily because we have an AD who is competent challenged.

wde

[tbone4jc 2,238]

I still believe CGM and C BOOM can get it together and pull off a 8 or 9 win season. We all bought into the hype but some can handle not living up to the hype better than others. It's just a game after all...

I said when Gus was announced as the new HC, sure, he is a good coach but I was not convinced that he was the best option. CGM is good for 8-9 wins each year but I'll ask you, and everyone on this board, is that good enough for you? Is that enough to be competitive in the SEC West?

Answer: No it's not.

This season I will be impressed with 8-9 wins. Every season? Of course I would love 12-14 wins year in and year out but this year it ain't happening.We were over rated and we as fans bought into it at its biting us in the rear. I don't like it any more than everyone else but it's still just a game. Unless the coaches just flat out lose control of this team I will support them and our kids, which I reckon they are as angry with their play as anyone.

[OnthePlains 2,014]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Exactly. We need continuity in the program. Making a coaching change every time things don't go like we want them too is ridiculous. All these knee jerk reactions don't serve any purpose at all.

I'm mad, I'm disappointed and disillusioned but you guys are right. Maybe the way the 2012 season went left us all with some psychological scarring and we are overreacting to the shaky start. Let's see what kind of effort we get next Saturday and see the record at the end of the season. No matter how bad it goes no one can really believe they would fire Gus before giving him a shot to turn it around.

[AUIH1 1,515]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Exactly. We need continuity in the program. Making a coaching change every time things don't go like we want them too is ridiculous. All these knee jerk reactions don't serve any purpose at all.

If you think any reactions (knee jerk or not) on an internet message board mean anything in terms of what happens on or off of the field then I hope you can get help somewhere.

wde

[AuburnSpider 2]

I mean what IF we had not managed to pull off not one but TWO MIRACLE plays in back to back games. I loved every nano second of them as I witnessed both in person, but how often does that happen and how would peeps be feeling now IF.

[AUIH1 1,515]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Exactly. We need continuity in the program. Making a coaching change every time things don't go like we want them too is ridiculous. All these knee jerk reactions don't serve any purpose at all.

I'm mad, I'm disappointed and disillusioned but you guys are right. Maybe the way the 2012 season went left us all with some psychological scarring and we are overreacting to the shaky start. Let's see what kind of effort we get next Saturday and see the record at the end of the season. No matter how bad it goes no one can really believe they would fire Gus before giving him a shot to turn it around.

I agree, but if we regress for two consecutive seasons with a supposed more talented line up and coaching staff then what then? Why should our O regress at all? We have a Gus protege at QB with talent all throughout the O line up? Gus is an O genius right?

wde

[AUGoo 2,659]

Grossly incompetent staff from top to bottom. Can't understand having that much talent and that much promise to completely pissing away a team.

The coaching staff is filled with accomplished coaches top to bottom. Maybe, just maybe the players are not what we thought they were.

Who is responsible for that?

wde

Jay Jacobs?

About time we blamed him again.

[juscAUse 1]

I still believe CGM and C BOOM can get it together and pull off a 8 or 9 win season. We all bought into the hype but some can handle not living up to the hype better than others. It's just a game after all...

I said when Gus was announced as the new HC, sure, he is a good coach but I was not convinced that he was the best option. CGM is good for 8-9 wins each year but I'll ask you, and everyone on this board, is that good enough for you? Is that enough to be competitive in the SEC West?

Answer: No it's not.

OK. I'll play your silly little game. Who is? Not Saban, ain't happening. Your serve.

[juscAUse 1]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Ok, what do you suggest given what resources are being given to Gus across the board? What is acceptable? IMO, it is never acceptable to be humiliated on the field (by score or lack of preparedness, effort, desire) like we witnessed against Texas A&M, especially uga, Wisconsin, Jax State and especially today against LSU.

I can understand concern about hiring a new HC primarily because we have an AD who is competent challenged.

wde

Obviously we should hire you. But you couldn't drink during games, then.

[TitanTiger 20,469]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Ok, what do you suggest given what resources are being given to Gus across the board? What is acceptable? IMO, it is never acceptable to be humiliated on the field (by score or lack of preparedness, effort, desire) like we witnessed against Texas A&M, especially uga, Wisconsin, Jax State and especially today against LSU.

I can understand concern about hiring a new HC primarily because we have an AD who is competent challenged.

wde

We could have the best AD in the history of human beings and you won't find a decent coach touching this job after watching us run off a second head coach after year three that got us to the natty just two years prior (winning one). That's especially true of Gus who was the offensive mind behind both appearances.

Given our history, this shouldn't even be up for discussion 3 games into Gus's third season. It's that retarded.

[AUIH1 1,515]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Ok, what do you suggest given what resources are being given to Gus across the board? What is acceptable? IMO, it is never acceptable to be humiliated on the field (by score or lack of preparedness, effort, desire) like we witnessed against Texas A&M, especially uga, Wisconsin, Jax State and especially today against LSU.

I can understand concern about hiring a new HC primarily because we have an AD who is competent challenged.

wde

Obviously we should hire you. But you couldn't drink during games, then.

LOL, glad you responded. Are you happy with the way the football program has produced since the Texas A&M game last year and through the UL, Jax State, and LSU games this season? If you are then why and if not, then why? Are you happy with the way discipline issues have been handled and resolved last season (Nick, Mincy, Whitehead and Duke) and this season (Duke and possibly J Robinson)?

wde

[AURealist 2,185]

"Trending" is a funny thing.

Seems not long ago Auburn was "trending" in the Top 10 and Jeremy Johnson was "trending" Heisman. There's nothing "trendy" to be done at this point. There's a new DC in town to build a better defense. He hasn't been a DC for a while and he just met his kids 6 months ago. Let the man work.

As for Gus, he's sucking wind right now. If he can't get it together by the end of year 5, then the 'change' discussion can begin.

Everyone really needs to just temper their expectations for this season, suck it up and ride out this embarrassing s*** storm of incompetent play until the team improves or we all die of liver damage (or shame).

...

[AUIH1 1,515]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Ok, what do you suggest given what resources are being given to Gus across the board? What is acceptable? IMO, it is never acceptable to be humiliated on the field (by score or lack of preparedness, effort, desire) like we witnessed against Texas A&M, especially uga, Wisconsin, Jax State and especially today against LSU.

I can understand concern about hiring a new HC primarily because we have an AD who is competent challenged.

wde

We could have the best AD in the history of human beings and you won't find a decent coach touching this job after watching us run off a second head coach after year three that got us to the natty just two years prior (winning one). That's especially true of Gus who was the offensive mind behind both appearances.

Given our history, this shouldn't even be up for discussion 3 games into Gus's third season. It's that retarded.

Ok when do I stop being retarded in your opinion regarding Gus as a HC? A loss next week to Miss State in JHS, a loss to Ole Miss in JHs, a blowout loss to Texas A&M, a loss to uga in JHS, a loss to spuat in JHS. Seriously, tell me when you may consider that we may not have the right HC to lead our football program?

wde

[TitanTiger 20,469]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Ok, what do you suggest given what resources are being given to Gus across the board? What is acceptable? IMO, it is never acceptable to be humiliated on the field (by score or lack of preparedness, effort, desire) like we witnessed against Texas A&M, especially uga, Wisconsin, Jax State and especially today against LSU.

I can understand concern about hiring a new HC primarily because we have an AD who is competent challenged.

wde

We could have the best AD in the history of human beings and you won't find a decent coach touching this job after watching us run off a second head coach after year three that got us to the natty just two years prior (winning one). That's especially true of Gus who was the offensive mind behind both appearances.

Given our history, this shouldn't even be up for discussion 3 games into Gus's third season. It's that retarded.

Ok when do I stop being retarded in your opinion regarding Gus as a HC? A loss next week to Miss State in JHS, a loss to Ole Miss in JHs, a blowout loss to Texas A&M, a loss to uga in JHS, a loss to spuat in JHS. Seriously, tell me when you may consider that we may not have the right HC to lead our football program?

wde

You stop being retarded when you stop saying we need to fire another damn coach three years in and two years off a natty appearance.

You stop being retarded when you realize that Nova isn't crapping million dollar bills for another round of buyouts.

That's when.

[juscAUse 1]

Last year we got beat in one game that could be laid on the coaches. Georgia. Every other game we had players in position to make plays that didn't. I drove home from vacation today. I had to listen to the LSU broadcast. You soon learn an announcer, and his habits. I can't count the time this guy would start a play sounding depressed because we had players in position to make plays, and get super excited when we ran past the runner or bounced off of him and he ran forever. What about you, Auburn fan? Besides firing another coach 3 games into his third season, what would you do? You're great at tearing down everybody, what's the solution? Remember, you have the same 4and 5 stars you have now.

[WarTiger 3,896]

Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Exactly. We need continuity in the program. Making a coaching change every time things don't go like we want them too is ridiculous. All these knee jerk reactions don't serve any purpose at all.

If you think any reactions (knee jerk or not) on an internet message board mean anything in terms of what happens on or off of the field then I hope you can get help somewhere.

wde

You made my point for me. Your opinion (and mine) mean absolutely NOTHING. All the "fire the coach" talk does is embarrass the rest of the fan base. I'm not at all surprised you can't see that.

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Anyone on this board could have coached the dogs D line. Georgia gets the pick of a very good litter every year. Garner IS NOT a very good coach anymore. He may have been but not anymore. Rhett Lashley hasn't proved that he deserves a salary anymore than any GA. DC should be coaching our QBs. I believe the D staff minus garner, will be ok WHEN and IF we are ever able to bring in quality talent. As long as the Turd King is instate we will struggle with that. We are pretty much STUCK. If we dump malzahn no coach out there is gonna touch Au after we fired 2 coaches this close after getting to the big dance.

So your suggestion is to stay with Gus even if we win less than 8 regular season games with losses to uga and spuat at home?

wde

I'm tired of the Auburn way being that we look to fire a coach 3-4 years in. It's been like this ever since Dye retired. Rumblings about firing Bowden after Year 4 led to him quitting midway through his 5th season. Had JetGate not been uncovered at the end of 2003, Tubs would have been canned for Petrino after 4 years. Chizik fired after Year Three. Now some people calling for a house cleaning to include Gus.

I'm not saying all of those firings were unjustified, but it's unsustainable. Not only can we not afford it financially with buyout upon buyout being paid, but it's going to make it next to impossible to ever get a good coach to come here. We've played for a natty twice in my lifetime (I'm 44). Both of those were under the coaching of Gus Malzahn. I'm as ticked off and upset as anyone about the inexplicable play of Jeremy and the continuing crappy defense. But we have got to stop thinking the solution is getting rid of the coach and starting over. Not in Year 3, not again.

Ok, what do you suggest given what resources are being given to Gus across the board? What is acceptable? IMO, it is never acceptable to be humiliated on the field (by score or lack of preparedness, effort, desire) like we witnessed against Texas A&M, especially uga, Wisconsin, Jax State and especially today against LSU.

I can understand concern about hiring a new HC primarily because we have an AD who is competent challenged.

wde

We could have the best AD in the history of human beings and you won't find a decent coach touching this job after watching us run off a second head coach after year three that got us to the natty just two years prior (winning one). That's especially true of Gus who was the offensive mind behind both appearances.

Given our history, this shouldn't even be up for discussion 3 games into Gus's third season. It's that retarded.

Ok when do I stop being retarded in your opinion regarding Gus as a HC? A loss next week to Miss State in JHS, a loss to Ole Miss in JHs, a blowout loss to Texas A&M, a loss to uga in JHS, a loss to spuat in JHS. Seriously, tell me when you may consider that we may not have the right HC to lead our football program?

wde

You stop being retarded when you stop saying we need to fire another damn coach three years in and two years off a natty appearance.

You stop being retarded when you realize that Nova isn't crapping million dollar bills for another round of buyouts.

That's when.

Quit dodging and being insulting. I had hoped you would be better than that. I am not saying I want Gus fired now. I am saying that if we win 8 or less 9 regular season games this season without a win over either uga or spuat, then Gus should be on a flaming seat going into next year. Regarding the buyouts, I agree that that is the only reason to consider keeping Gus as HC if he continues to wet the bed. Now who is responsible for those buyouts?

wde

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Last year we got beat in one game that could be laid on the coaches. Georgia. Every other game we had players in position to make plays that didn't. I drove home from vacation today. I had to listen to the LSU broadcast. You soon learn an announcer, and his habits. I can't count the time this guy would start a play sounding depressed because we had players in position to make plays, and get super excited when we ran past the runner or bounced off of him and he ran forever. What about you, Auburn fan? Besides firing another coach 3 games into his third season, what would you do? You're great at tearing down everybody, what's the solution? Remember, you have the same 4and 5 stars you have now.

LOL, let your Mommy read you a sweet bedtime story.

wde