cole256 16,957 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 This thread has run it's course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,455 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 What was funny? Meta4 explained it. Georgia's qb has an eighty something percent completing percentage after three games....turns out he's not that accurate at all Cool. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,216 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Stat backs up his view with Stats. Yep and most will not use their mind with the stats. And not factor in his big play potential either. And I don't even count the mishap the Alabama game a fumble...it was stupid but it was more of a pass than anything. Add in he's fumbled like three or four times total ever imo saying he ALWAYS fumble isn't valid at all Exactly. Barber had two fumbles in the San Jose st game but fell on them. He even ripped his gloves off after one. Roc has like one fumble this year and the grumbles start.Meanwhile the fourth string running back keeps getting all the love. So ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,801 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Stat backs up his view with Stats. Yep and most will not use their mind with the stats. And not factor in his big play potential either. And I don't even count the mishap the Alabama game a fumble...it was stupid but it was more of a pass than anything. Add in he's fumbled like three or four times total ever imo saying he ALWAYS fumble isn't valid at all Exactly. Barber had two fumbles in the San Jose st game but fell on them. He even ripped his gloves off after one. Roc has like one fumble this year and the grumbles start.Meanwhile the fourth string running back keeps getting all the love. So ridiculous Lol good point Randman. Seriously though what has Jovon Robinson done that warrants so much clamoring for him to be on the field? I have been waiting for 6 full weeks to see something, anything, that makes me feel like he should be in the game and injury or not he has not shown anything meanwhile our workhorse RB is only getting 100 yard games over and over while scoring 5, yes F-I-V-E, touchdowns in a game. All this after it was said by coaches Robinson is behind all the other RBs in practice. He wasn't playing as well in practice as the other RBs and in games his whopping 2 carries didn't show that much. I understand Robinson has been hurt, but our RBs are the brightest spot on our team right now and people want to give the guy who has been stuck on the sideline some run. People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I doubt Gus will play Jovon. He only likes to play Peyton or Kerryon. Heck, Gus hasn't played Mr. Football, Roc Thomas that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,345 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I doubt Gus will play Jovon. He only likes to play Peyton or Kerryon. Heck, Gus hasn't played Mr. Football, Roc Thomas that much. Don't know why I'm bothering, but has it occurred to you that Roc may have been injured/banged up quite a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,277 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant They can both carry the ball 20 times a game. They just can't carry the ball 20 times a game pounding it on the inside the way Peyton is doing. That would be like asking a shooting guard to play power forward. He might pull it off for a minute but not a whole quarter. So people are talking about Jovon because, if the coaches choose to pound it in a game and Peyton needs a breather, JR is the only other RB that can keep doing that over and over. Roc and Kerryon's touches are dependent on other factors, not on getting their numbers called on several inside runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant They can both carry the ball 20 times a game. They just can't carry the ball 20 times a game pounding it on the inside the way Peyton is doing. That would be like asking a shooting guard to play power forward. He might pull it off for a minute but not a whole quarter. So people are talking about Jovon because, if the coaches choose to pound it in a game and Peyton needs a breather, JR is the only other RB that can keep doing that over and over. Roc and Kerryon's touches are dependent on other factors, not on getting their numbers called on several inside runs. Exactly what everybody here said about Tre Mason. Folks probably said it about Jamaal Charles and LeSean McCoy, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,277 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant They can both carry the ball 20 times a game. They just can't carry the ball 20 times a game pounding it on the inside the way Peyton is doing. That would be like asking a shooting guard to play power forward. He might pull it off for a minute but not a whole quarter. So people are talking about Jovon because, if the coaches choose to pound it in a game and Peyton needs a breather, JR is the only other RB that can keep doing that over and over. Roc and Kerryon's touches are dependent on other factors, not on getting their numbers called on several inside runs. Exactly what everybody here said about Tre Mason. Folks probably said it about Jamaal Charles and LeSean McCoy, too. Tre Mason couldn't do it his Freshman and Sophomore years either. By his Junior year he had added 20 pounds of thick muscle mass to his short compact body style and could then take the pounding. Roc and Kerryon are both taller and more lanky than Tre. They need to add significant muscle mass to be able to pound it inside over and over again. Try to use them for that now and you will see injuries and turnovers. However, both of them can and likely will do the same thing Tre did by adding thick muscle mass, but it takes time. Jovon, like Peyton, already has the body to handle significant numbers of inside power runs per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,801 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant They can both carry the ball 20 times a game. They just can't carry the ball 20 times a game pounding it on the inside the way Peyton is doing. That would be like asking a shooting guard to play power forward. He might pull it off for a minute but not a whole quarter. So people are talking about Jovon because, if the coaches choose to pound it in a game and Peyton needs a breather, JR is the only other RB that can keep doing that over and over. Roc and Kerryon's touches are dependent on other factors, not on getting their numbers called on several inside runs. You have a good point about getting some inside runs when PB has to take a rest. And also a good analogy with someone playing SG/PF. I guess I was referring to those who imply Robinson should be taking some carries away from Barber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 16,957 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant They can both carry the ball 20 times a game. They just can't carry the ball 20 times a game pounding it on the inside the way Peyton is doing. That would be like asking a shooting guard to play power forward. He might pull it off for a minute but not a whole quarter. So people are talking about Jovon because, if the coaches choose to pound it in a game and Peyton needs a breather, JR is the only other RB that can keep doing that over and over. Roc and Kerryon's touches are dependent on other factors, not on getting their numbers called on several inside runs. Exactly what everybody here said about Tre Mason. Folks probably said it about Jamaal Charles and LeSean McCoy, too. Tre Mason couldn't do it his Freshman and Sophomore years either. By his Junior/Senior years he had added 20 pounds of thick muscle mass to his short compact body style and could then take the pounding. Roc and Kerryon are both taller and more lanky than Tre. They need to add significant muscle mass to be able to pound it inside over and over again. Try to use them for that now and you will see injuries and turnovers. However, both of them can and likely will do the same thing Tre did by adding thick muscle mass, but it takes time. Jovon, like Peyton, already has the body to handle significant numbers of inside power runs per game. Tre's sophomore year we just sucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,277 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant They can both carry the ball 20 times a game. They just can't carry the ball 20 times a game pounding it on the inside the way Peyton is doing. That would be like asking a shooting guard to play power forward. He might pull it off for a minute but not a whole quarter. So people are talking about Jovon because, if the coaches choose to pound it in a game and Peyton needs a breather, JR is the only other RB that can keep doing that over and over. Roc and Kerryon's touches are dependent on other factors, not on getting their numbers called on several inside runs. You have a good point about getting some inside runs when PB has to take a rest. And also a good analogy with someone playing SG/PF. I guess I was referring to those who imply Robinson should be taking some carries away from Barber. I gotcha. No, I wouldn't want to take carries away from PB at all, unless he needed a breather. He has more than earned his job. It would be nice to have Jovon back to be able to do that for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,277 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant They can both carry the ball 20 times a game. They just can't carry the ball 20 times a game pounding it on the inside the way Peyton is doing. That would be like asking a shooting guard to play power forward. He might pull it off for a minute but not a whole quarter. So people are talking about Jovon because, if the coaches choose to pound it in a game and Peyton needs a breather, JR is the only other RB that can keep doing that over and over. Roc and Kerryon's touches are dependent on other factors, not on getting their numbers called on several inside runs. Exactly what everybody here said about Tre Mason. Folks probably said it about Jamaal Charles and LeSean McCoy, too. Tre Mason couldn't do it his Freshman and Sophomore years either. By his Junior year he had added 20 pounds of thick muscle mass to his short compact body style and could then take the pounding. Roc and Kerryon are both taller and more lanky than Tre. They need to add significant muscle mass to be able to pound it inside over and over again. Try to use them for that now and you will see injuries and turnovers. However, both of them can and likely will do the same thing Tre did by adding thick muscle mass, but it takes time. Jovon, like Peyton, already has the body to handle significant numbers of inside power runs per game. Tre's sophomore year we just sucked major suckage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant They can both carry the ball 20 times a game. They just can't carry the ball 20 times a game pounding it on the inside the way Peyton is doing. That would be like asking a shooting guard to play power forward. He might pull it off for a minute but not a whole quarter. So people are talking about Jovon because, if the coaches choose to pound it in a game and Peyton needs a breather, JR is the only other RB that can keep doing that over and over. Roc and Kerryon's touches are dependent on other factors, not on getting their numbers called on several inside runs. Exactly what everybody here said about Tre Mason. Folks probably said it about Jamaal Charles and LeSean McCoy, too. Tre Mason couldn't do it his Freshman and Sophomore years either. By his Junior year he had added 20 pounds of thick muscle mass to his short compact body style and could then take the pounding. Roc and Kerryon are both taller and more lanky than Tre. They need to add significant muscle mass to be able to pound it inside over and over again. Try to use them for that now and you will see injuries and turnovers. However, both of them can and likely will do the same thing Tre did by adding thick muscle mass, but it takes time. Jovon, like Peyton, already has the body to handle significant numbers of inside power runs per game. Tre's sophomore year we just sucked major suckage Amazing that Tre still ran for 1,000 as a sophomore on that crappy team. Only 14.25 carries per game, though, which is indeed 5+ carries less per game than the 20 you specified. Again, though, with Charles and McCoy- 5'11 199 and 5'11 208, respectively, to Roc's 5'10 203. And all 5'9 209 of Devonta Freeman is currently destroying the NFL (although he is definitely a little more compact than Roc). Smaller-to-more normally sized backs often fit into spaces that larger ones don't, thus avoiding a lot of the contact the bigger ones take, so I think it might be a wash. I agree that Roc has room to fill out, but I'd hold his experience against him more than his size at this point. He was RB1 going into the season, and I still think he could be if Peyton doesn't continue to improve as the season goes on as our last couple lead dogs did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixie1860 27 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 .....People are saying Kerryon or Roc can't carry the ball 20x a game and by doing this they are discounting what they are bringing to the table. Meanwhile, the RB they want in the game has yet to prove he can even carry the ball more than just 3 times in one game. RB should be the least of our worries. /rant They can both carry the ball 20 times a game. They just can't carry the ball 20 times a game pounding it on the inside the way Peyton is doing. That would be like asking a shooting guard to play power forward. He might pull it off for a minute but not a whole quarter. So people are talking about Jovon because, if the coaches choose to pound it in a game and Peyton needs a breather, JR is the only other RB that can keep doing that over and over. Roc and Kerryon's touches are dependent on other factors, not on getting their numbers called on several inside runs. Exactly what everybody here said about Tre Mason. Folks probably said it about Jamaal Charles and LeSean McCoy, too. Tre Mason couldn't do it his Freshman and Sophomore years either. By his Junior year he had added 20 pounds of thick muscle mass to his short compact body style and could then take the pounding. Roc and Kerryon are both taller and more lanky than Tre. They need to add significant muscle mass to be able to pound it inside over and over again. Try to use them for that now and you will see injuries and turnovers. However, both of them can and likely will do the same thing Tre did by adding thick muscle mass, but it takes time. Jovon, like Peyton, already has the body to handle significant numbers of inside power runs per game. Tre's sophomore year we just sucked major suckage The suckiest bunch of sucks, who ever sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win4AU 4,044 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I've said we'll see more Jovon tonight so I'll predict 7 carries for 50yrds with one 20+yard run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au_bsci_04 407 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Tre was getting like 30+ carries a game at the end of 2013, so his avg was like a fumble every two games -- that is too much IMO but I dont recall feeling like he lost the ball a lot As a team, we recovered more of the lost balls when Mason was here than we currently are. It's one thing to out the ball on the ground, it's another to lose possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyAU 3,628 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Jovon still listed as questionable with leg/ankle injury right? That must have been some injury. He hasn't seen the field appreciably since Louisville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,345 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Jovon still listed as questionable with leg/ankle injury right? That must have been some injury. He hasn't seen the field appreciably since Louisville. High ankle sprain is the word. Those can take a while to rebound from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Jovon still listed as questionable with leg/ankle injury right? That must have been some injury. He hasn't seen the field appreciably since Louisville. High ankle sprain is the word. Those can take a while to rebound from. So can yelling at your coach on the sideline during a game. Sincerely, That Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,345 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Jovon still listed as questionable with leg/ankle injury right? That must have been some injury. He hasn't seen the field appreciably since Louisville. High ankle sprain is the word. Those can take a while to rebound from. So can yelling at your coach on the sideline during a game. Sincerely, That Guy That too, but would he really be in the doghouse for this long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Jovon still listed as questionable with leg/ankle injury right? That must have been some injury. He hasn't seen the field appreciably since Louisville. High ankle sprain is the word. Those can take a while to rebound from. So can yelling at your coach on the sideline during a game. Sincerely, That Guy That too, but would he really be in the doghouse for this long? When he was RB3 going into the season and the other 3 guys are producing? Can't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared52 4,354 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 When he was RB3 going into the season and the other 3 guys are producing? Can't help. Eh, producing might be a bit strong. Getting the yards they are expected to get is probably more apt. Neither Roc or Payton have shown any homerun ability (not that Jovon has either). If there is space, they get yards. They don't get something out of nothing like Tre did at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 When he was RB3 going into the season and the other 3 guys are producing? Can't help. Eh, producing might be a bit strong. Getting the yards they are expected to get is probably more apt. Neither Roc or Payton have shown any homerun ability (not that Jovon has either). If there is space, they get yards. They don't get something out of nothing like Tre did at times. LOL. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,801 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Roc has shown more home run ability on our team than anybody else this entire season IMO. He has had a few big plays catching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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