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Maher Asks Sanders THE Question. "How are we gonna pay for all that free stuff?"

Money @ 3:00 or so.

As we started drilling down into the details BS admits it is going to mean higher taxes on more than the 1%ers. "We may have to go a little lower than that." Top 10%???

Maher also holds his feet to the fire about what he really means about "Medicare for All." "to control costs, we will have to control both ends of it...Doctors, Hospitals, and Paying for it. Healthcare should not be making huge profits for business."

What i dont get are two things: Why wont the MSM in this country actually ask the tough to answer, detail questions like this? Why do we as Americans allow the MSM to devolve into nothing more than sound bites and empty propaganda?

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There aren't enough 1%ers in the world, never mind the USA, to pay for the goodies the Left have in their fantasy Christmas eve dreams.

Oh, I'm sorry... their Winter Solstice eve dreams.

As for why the MSM won't ask REAL questions and play like they are actual journalists ?

Easy. Most candidates are " establishment " types, who carry a lot of clout and power. Piss most of them off, and you don't get to ask another question. Even more , you don't get invited to black tie dinners and fun D.C. social events , or your entire news outfit gets treated like dogs , if not banned entirely ( Look at how Obama has treated FOX News, for example )

Bernie is desperate to get his word out, and Maher isn't a journalist. Just my 2 cents.

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There aren't enough 1%ers in the world, never mind the USA, to pay for the goodies the Left have in their fantasy Christmas eve dreams.

Oh, I'm sorry... their Winter Solstice eve dreams.

As for why the MSM won't ask REAL questions and play like they are actual journalists ?

Easy. Most candidates are " establishment " types, who carry a lot of clout and power. Piss most of them off, and you don't get to ask another question. Even more , you don't get invited to black tie dinners and fun D.C. social events , or your entire news outfit gets treated like dogs , if not banned entirely ( Look at how Obama has treated FOX News, for example )

Bernie is desperate to get his word out, and Maher isn't a journalist. Just my 2 cents.

Amazing that countries who aren't nearly as wealthy do? Perhaps a very modest tax on financial transactions would prove otherwise?

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There aren't enough 1%ers in the world, never mind the USA, to pay for the goodies the Left have in their fantasy Christmas eve dreams.

Oh, I'm sorry... their Winter Solstice eve dreams.

As for why the MSM won't ask REAL questions and play like they are actual journalists ?

Easy. Most candidates are " establishment " types, who carry a lot of clout and power. Piss most of them off, and you don't get to ask another question. Even more , you don't get invited to black tie dinners and fun D.C. social events , or your entire news outfit gets treated like dogs , if not banned entirely ( Look at how Obama has treated FOX News, for example )

Bernie is desperate to get his word out, and Maher isn't a journalist. Just my 2 cents.

Amazing that countries who aren't nearly as wealthy do? Perhaps a very modest tax on financial transactions would prove otherwise?

ichy did you watch the video? BS says that there has to be a Transaction Tax AND Tax >1%ers, AND tax yet other things as well. Look I support most of the agenda. But i am not going Pollyanna on all this too. It was refreshing to hear BS say it straight up tho. Yes there would be more taxes. But we have such a huge inequity in Wealth and Income, i think it is worth it. We are saddling kids with college loan debts so huge they have almost no way to pay it off short of Life Insurance at death. My own Health Insurance Plan now is ridiculously less than what it was just a few years ago. I know folks whose Health Insurance Plan is catastrophic and little else. They have a Get Well-File Bankruptcy Plan.

We need to have an honest debate about this. We cant keep having the Gruber-Goober Plan where we have govt just plain lie to 50%+ of the nation about what is about to happen. Taxes are going up. I am praying that spending wont go up even beyond the taxation increase tho. I am not a Pollyanna tho. The Oligarchy in DC have failed so many times before.

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amazing that so many people from those fabulous welfare states still are streaming into greedy , heartless America to find their fortunes.

Let me be perfectly clear ... if taxes go up, spending will go up. Taxes are already too high as it is.

Why ?

Because so much $ is wasted on things which do not fall with in the proper function of govt, as well as built in graft and waste.

We spend $ on things we have no business spending money on in the first place. That is why so little seems to get done. Our $ gets wasted / stolen, and then we complain things aren't the way we like. Politicians make promises to fix things ( reform is the big word they like to use ) and still nothing gets done. Microscopic cuts are made, here or there, and the MSM act as if MASSIVE, DRACONIAN slashes have been implemented, and the other side comes out and promises to fix THAT !

It is a complete and total scam going on, but no one wants to admit it.

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amazing that so many people from those fabulous welfare states still are streaming into greedy , heartless America to find their fortunes.

Let me be perfectly clear ... if taxes go up, spending will go up. Taxes are already too high as it is.

Why ?

Because so much $ is wasted on things which do not fall with in the proper function of govt, as well as built in graft and waste.

We spend $ on things we have no business spending money on in the first place. That is why so little seems to get done. Our $ gets wasted / stolen, and then we complain things aren't the way we like. Politicians make promises to fix things ( reform is the big word they like to use ) and still nothing gets done. Microscopic cuts are made, here or there, and the MSM act as if MASSIVE, DRACONIAN slashes have been implemented, and the other side comes out and promises to fix THAT !

It is a complete and total scam going on, but no one wants to admit it.

I actually agree with you. I just choose to have faith that there is some folks out there that can and will get the job done.
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I just choose to have faith that there is some folks out there that can and will get the job done.

Yes.

There are some.

But not enough.

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There aren't enough 1%ers in the world, never mind the USA, to pay for the goodies the Left have in their fantasy Christmas eve dreams.

Oh, I'm sorry... their Winter Solstice eve dreams.

As for why the MSM won't ask REAL questions and play like they are actual journalists ?

Easy. Most candidates are " establishment " types, who carry a lot of clout and power. Piss most of them off, and you don't get to ask another question. Even more , you don't get invited to black tie dinners and fun D.C. social events , or your entire news outfit gets treated like dogs , if not banned entirely ( Look at how Obama has treated FOX News, for example )

Bernie is desperate to get his word out, and Maher isn't a journalist. Just my 2 cents.

Amazing that countries who aren't nearly as wealthy do? Perhaps a very modest tax on financial transactions would prove otherwise?

ichy did you watch the video? BS says that there has to be a Transaction Tax AND Tax >1%ers, AND tax yet other things as well. Look I support most of the agenda. But i am not going Pollyanna on all this too. It was refreshing to hear BS say it straight up tho. Yes there would be more taxes. But we have such a huge inequity in Wealth and Income, i think it is worth it. We are saddling kids with college loan debts so huge they have almost no way to pay it off short of Life Insurance at death. My own Health Insurance Plan now is ridiculously less than what it was just a few years ago. I know folks whose Health Insurance Plan is catastrophic and little else. They have a Get Well-File Bankruptcy Plan.

We need to have an honest debate about this. We cant keep having the Gruber-Goober Plan where we have govt just plain lie to 50%+ of the nation about what is about to happen. Taxes are going up. I am praying that spending wont go up even beyond the taxation increase tho. I am not a Pollyanna tho. The Oligarchy in DC have failed so many times before.

Don't think for a moment that I have. However, I am not going to live in the world of gross exaggerations, or generalizations, from either side. We can, and we must, do a better job. We need to work on the entire picture. It is not all about taxes but, as I have mentioned countless times, there are people in this country not paying enough, for the most part, those who pay the capital gains rate. There are those who pay too much, for the most part entrepreneurs. We need to end the trend of outsourcing. This will increase the tax base. We need to reform healthcare for the sake citizens and the government. It is as much an economic issue as an humanitarian one.

We have to begin to have practical discussions on specific measures. We have to stop having political/ideological discussions. We are not pure capitalists. We are not socialists. We have been something in between for a long, long time. We need to think in terms of what is best for all, not what is best for a few or even, what is ideologically pleasing to us. All of the generalized political narratives are stupid, IMO.

Progress will only be made when we begin to think in real terms, when we look for practical solutions, when we learn to have genuine discussion that is not limited by politics and ideology.

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Don't think for a moment that I have. However, I am not going to live in the world of gross exaggerations, or generalizations, from either side. We can, and we must, do a better job. We need to work on the entire picture. It is not all about taxes but, as I have mentioned countless times, there are people in this country not paying enough, for the most part, those who pay the capital gains rate. There are those who pay too much, for the most part entrepreneurs. We need to end the trend of outsourcing. This will increase the tax base. We need to reform healthcare for the sake citizens and the government. It is as much an economic issue as an humanitarian one.

We have to begin to have practical discussions on specific measures. We have to stop having political/ideological discussions. We are not pure capitalists. We are not socialists. We have been something in between for a long, long time. We need to think in terms of what is best for all, not what is best for a few or even, what is ideologically pleasing to us. All of the generalized political narratives are stupid, IMO.

Progress will only be made when we begin to think in real terms, when we look for practical solutions, when we learn to have genuine discussion that is not limited by politics and ideology.

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There is nothing more expensive than free stuff from government. Like everything else before the bureaucracy required to implement this will be ridiculous. You'll get a temporary bounce in revenue from the tax hike before these people find ways to shelter and reduce their taxable income. Then the money flow will go down while the expenses go up. In other words it's a typical Washington solution that sounds great but unfortunately isn't workable.

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Nothing like transforming a once proud and productive nation into another European socialist society. What works for cookie cutter nations doesn't always work for extremely diverse and broadly cultural countries.....like the only one in the world.

I'm tired of the continued tax and spend models of both political parties, and I sure as hell don't want to see more big government.

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It seems odd to me that tax revenue for 2015 is at an all-time high and yet we don't have nearly enough money.

Of course we don't . And this is just the beginning of the tax hikes and big spending.

Only a fiscally sound Republican President and Congress can save this country.

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It seems odd to me that tax revenue for 2015 is at an all-time high and yet we don't have nearly enough money.

Of course we don't . And this is just the beginning of the tax hikes and big spending.

Only a fiscally sound Republican President and Congress can save this country.

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I have faith that it may be possible that we get some FR guys in DC soon, but...these guys were waiting on Fiscally Responsible Republicans too.

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I'm afraid we've passed the point of no return. The people want more, and they'll get it good and hard. And they don't understand that the Leviathan we already have was paid for on borrowed money. The vast majority of Boobus Americanus function as children when it comes to our politics. I've given up hope on a sudden Great Awakening, and am instead focusing my energy on seeking out and building the Remnant- that disillusioned mass of decent people who know something is terribly wrong and that someone will need to rebuild after the crash.

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Of the current Pres. candidates, who do you have faith in that will be FR?

I really dont think anyone is ideologically that Fiscally Responsible. It isnt their #1 Priority for anyone of them on either side.

On the Dem Side: Clinton is really the only one that is at least tied to that notion and she claims to be THE Most FR Candidate as recently as last week. WJC was at least the last time we had a balanced budget. Maybe she acts more like him than the rest.

On the Rep Side: Maybe Rubio? Maybe Kasich? For the Reps, they all give Lip Service to being FR, but rarely act that way.

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It seems odd to me that tax revenue for 2015 is at an all-time high and yet we don't have nearly enough money.

Two primary reasons: healthcare and Social Security

We have to reform our healthcare system or, it will bankrupt the country.

We mismanaged Social Security and now, with more Americans reaching retirement age, we have a major problem.

Looming on the horizon is interest. We must seriously, not politically, address the above issues now.

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It seems odd to me that tax revenue for 2015 is at an all-time high and yet we don't have nearly enough money.

Of course we don't . And this is just the beginning of the tax hikes and big spending.

Only a fiscally sound Republican President and Congress can save this country.

3ghostsdine.jpg&w0=426&h0=320&imgType=2&h1=150&w1=200

I have faith that it may be possible that we get some FR guys in DC soon, but...these guys were waiting on Fiscally Responsible Republicans too.

We have some. It's not enough yet to be sure. The old guard is slowly retiring and moving out. It takes time and the fight never ends.
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It seems odd to me that tax revenue for 2015 is at an all-time high and yet we don't have nearly enough money.

Of course we don't . And this is just the beginning of the tax hikes and big spending.

Only a fiscally sound Republican President and Congress can save this country.

3ghostsdine.jpg&w0=426&h0=320&imgType=2&h1=150&w1=200

I have faith that it may be possible that we get some FR guys in DC soon, but...these guys were waiting on Fiscally Responsible Republicans too.

We have some. It's not enough yet to be sure. The old guard is slowly retiring and moving out. It takes time and the fight never ends.

Considering Reagan, who tripled the debt, W. Bush, who doubled the debt (probably more considering the lasting effects of his policies), what makes you believe that anyone coming out of the Republican party would be genuine about fiscal responsibility?

Can you cite an example of a past administration that, grew the economy and produced a fiscal surplus? Or, is your opinion based in ideological theory? Can you explain?

How do you feel about deficit reduction if it creates a recessionary environment?

Are you looking for a political movement that will reduce the size of government without concern or reason? Or, are you supporting specific cuts aimed at improving efficiency? If so, in what specific areas/departments?

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Spending bills don't originate at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Some must get their civics knowledge from Jon Stewart and the like.

Too funny.

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Don't think for a moment that I have. However, I am not going to live in the world of gross exaggerations, or generalizations, from either side. We can, and we must, do a better job. We need to work on the entire picture. It is not all about taxes but, as I have mentioned countless times, there are people in this country not paying enough, for the most part, those who pay the capital gains rate. There are those who pay too much, for the most part entrepreneurs. We need to end the trend of outsourcing. This will increase the tax base. We need to reform healthcare for the sake citizens and the government. It is as much an economic issue as an humanitarian one.

We have to begin to have practical discussions on specific measures. We have to stop having political/ideological discussions. We are not pure capitalists. We are not socialists. We have been something in between for a long, long time. We need to think in terms of what is best for all, not what is best for a few or even, what is ideologically pleasing to us. All of the generalized political narratives are stupid, IMO.

Progress will only be made when we begin to think in real terms, when we look for practical solutions, when we learn to have genuine discussion that is not limited by politics and ideology.

:hellyeah:/>

im voting for ichy! The outsourcing probably hurts us more than anything else. It compounds other problems and the consequences for those that win are so far into the future they lie to themselves about it.
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I'm afraid we've passed the point of no return. The people want more, and they'll get it good and hard. And they don't understand that the Leviathan we already have was paid for on borrowed money. The vast majority of Boobus Americanus function as children when it comes to our politics. I've given up hope on a sudden Great Awakening, and am instead focusing my energy on seeking out and building the Remnant- that disillusioned mass of decent people who know something is terribly wrong and that someone will need to rebuild after the crash.

I'm afraid that I am in your camp. I think the plane is descending too fast and the pilot has lost control of the nose.

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Don't think for a moment that I have. However, I am not going to live in the world of gross exaggerations, or generalizations, from either side. We can, and we must, do a better job. We need to work on the entire picture. It is not all about taxes but, as I have mentioned countless times, there are people in this country not paying enough, for the most part, those who pay the capital gains rate. There are those who pay too much, for the most part entrepreneurs. We need to end the trend of outsourcing. This will increase the tax base. We need to reform healthcare for the sake citizens and the government. It is as much an economic issue as an humanitarian one.

We have to begin to have practical discussions on specific measures. We have to stop having political/ideological discussions. We are not pure capitalists. We are not socialists. We have been something in between for a long, long time. We need to think in terms of what is best for all, not what is best for a few or even, what is ideologically pleasing to us. All of the generalized political narratives are stupid, IMO.

Progress will only be made when we begin to think in real terms, when we look for practical solutions, when we learn to have genuine discussion that is not limited by politics and ideology.

:hellyeah:/>

im voting for ichy! The outsourcing probably hurts us more than anything else. It compounds other problems and the consequences for those that win are so far into the future they lie to themselves about it.

IMO, that is pretty much it.

Problems that must be solved immediately:

1. Outsourcing, trade policy and, how we compete in the global economy.

2. Contain rising healthcare costs.

3. Save Social Security.

4. Balance the budget.

In short, we need to be hyper-focused on the economy and, focused on improving our fiscal condition. Restore prosperity and responsibility. Once those goals are accomplished, we can see what is leftover for the "we need to rule the world" and the, "we have to save the planet" folks. It is funny how economic prosperity seems to solve problems and, economic demise seems to magnify them.

The answers lie in fundamentals, not in the ideology and politics that obscure them.

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Don't think for a moment that I have. However, I am not going to live in the world of gross exaggerations, or generalizations, from either side. We can, and we must, do a better job. We need to work on the entire picture. It is not all about taxes but, as I have mentioned countless times, there are people in this country not paying enough, for the most part, those who pay the capital gains rate. There are those who pay too much, for the most part entrepreneurs. We need to end the trend of outsourcing. This will increase the tax base. We need to reform healthcare for the sake citizens and the government. It is as much an economic issue as an humanitarian one.

We have to begin to have practical discussions on specific measures. We have to stop having political/ideological discussions. We are not pure capitalists. We are not socialists. We have been something in between for a long, long time. We need to think in terms of what is best for all, not what is best for a few or even, what is ideologically pleasing to us. All of the generalized political narratives are stupid, IMO.

Progress will only be made when we begin to think in real terms, when we look for practical solutions, when we learn to have genuine discussion that is not limited by politics and ideology.

:hellyeah:/>

im voting for ichy! The outsourcing probably hurts us more than anything else. It compounds other problems and the consequences for those that win are so far into the future they lie to themselves about it.

IMO, that is pretty much it.

Problems that must be solved immediately:

1. Outsourcing, trade policy and, how we compete in the global economy.

2. Contain rising healthcare costs.

3. Save Social Security.

4. Balance the budget.

In short, we need to be hyper-focused on the economy and, focused on improving our fiscal condition. Restore prosperity and responsibility. Once those goals are accomplished, we can see what is leftover for the "we need to rule the world" and the, "we have to save the planet" folks. It is funny how economic prosperity seems to solve problems and, economic demise seems to magnify them.

The answers lie in fundamentals, not in the ideology and politics that obscure them.

Post of the year. 2016 might be a long shot, but a shot no less ICHY

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