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I know we were preseason favorites to win the SEC and push for the NC, but we all know how reliable preseason rankings are. All things considered, we have 2 SEC losses (one to a team that is still undefeated, and the other to a pretty good MSU team that we statistically beat, except where it counts). that said, Tennessee, Alabama, Ole Miss, Georgia, and Arkansas have failed to live up to preseason hype as well. Will the beat down TAMU took yesterday, does anyone else feel that our overall outlook going forward isn't as bleak as we thought? I am not contending that there is hope for a NC, but I still believe this season can be salvaged, and a lot can be built on for years down the road. What say you?

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With the exception of the Bama game, I am not sure we will necessarily be underdogs in any of our remaining games, particularly after we pound Bielema and them boys. Hard to see at this point where things will end up but if we continue to improve there could be some nice moments before this season is done. WDE

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My opinion is everyone left on AUs SEC schedule is beatable but I also believe any of those teams left on the schedule can beat AU. I think it comes down to the AU coaches game plan is betters than theirs and I don't have 100% faith that will happen for all of them. As well as make the proper in game adjustments but I'm along for the ride to the end.

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IMO, we are in trouble. I don't think we will win too many conference games moving forward but my biggest concern is the lack of player development. We have plenty of talent to be in this situation. even more, I'm questioning player evaluation. Westry was in but we decided we didn't want him. Now he is a major play for UK. While I believe our DB recruiting was a bright spot last year, WM said when he got here our target recruit board on D was terrible. This year the elite recruits are choosing UAT, UGA, and UT over AU. With UF's turnaround, we are going to have trouble pulling in Florida recruits. So far our recruiting is weak compared to our SEC competitors. I'm very concerned after a poor year the last 2 yrs on DL and LB that we are in for continued issues on D. Personally I wasn't a fan of GM when he got hired because I preferred a proven div 1 coach. Now there are questions about his offense and his leadership of a major program. It's been an embarrassing year and I for one am tired of the yo-yo that has been AU football.

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IMO, we are in trouble. I don't think we will win too many conference games moving forward but my biggest concern is the lack of player development. We have plenty of talent to be in this situation. even more, I'm questioning player evaluation. Westry was in but we decided we didn't want him. Now he is a major play for UK. While I believe our DB recruiting was a bright spot last year, WM said when he got here our target recruit board on D was terrible. This year the elite recruits are choosing UAT, UGA, and UT over AU. With UF's turnaround, we are going to have trouble pulling in Florida recruits. So far our recruiting is weak compared to our SEC competitors. I'm very concerned after a poor year the last 2 yrs on DL and LB that we are in for continued issues on D. Personally I wasn't a fan of GM when he got hired because I preferred a proven div 1 coach. Now there are questions about his offense and his leadership of a major program. It's been an embarrassing year and I for one am tired of the yo-yo that has been AU football.

If you're tiree of the yoyo that has been Auburn football then you must be tired of the last 40 plus years. This is Auburn football.
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It all depends on how much this team improves going forward. Personally i feel the arky game is gonna be a tough one to win but if the team stays together then i think OM, A&M and uga are winnable.

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I think AU was a chance to win a few more. Ark maybe GA and Ole miss. UA and Txa&m are gonna be bad.we don't have the depth to combat the physicality of UA or chase kirk and Noel for 3 hours in Texas. Just make take. Maybe if we play keep away all game with barber and Robinson if he is healthy . we could beat Txa&m

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All games left on the schedule are winnable. All games left on the schedule (except Idaho) are also possible losses. With that said, I believe we win the majority of the games left and we end up probably 7-5 with a trip to a mid-tier bowl game. It seems that all teams to a certain extent in the SEC are struggling in some way.

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We just need to improve every week and our defense has to be able to actually look like a defense.

Of course Kentucky is just one game, but we were lucky that their receivers dropped a lot of balls. If the KY receivers made those catches, the game would have had a different outcome, so we have to be mindful of this. Better teams are not going to have these issues, so our defense cannot count on the other team to beat themselves.

The offense seems to be on the right track now, but we have to remember Sean White is still a WIP. He looks good and seems to have all of the tangibles to be a great SEC QB. However he is still a very young and relatively inexperienced at this level. He will make some mistakes and we fans need to understand that. That being said, the more he plays and the more situations he is in, the more comfortable he will get, which means he can think less and rely on his natural instincts more. Sean is going to be a super QB before he leaves Auburn.

Our receivers need to step up big time. Ricardo looked great up until his eye was poked. Davis had no drops and looked as he has looked for some time, Mr. reliable. Jason Smith needs to step up his game as well as Stanton Truitt. Where is Melvin Ray?

Defensively, we are a mess. Same issues, different game. We cannot get off blocks, overrun plays, give way too much cushion to receivers, fail to collapse the middle of the field, and look generally confused 80% of the time. Most of this is on the D-Line and the linebackers, who do not seem to get pressure. The 3rd and long crap resulting in 1st downs has to stop. Is there any time Kentucky was not in 3rd and 10 or longer situations, where they did not convert?

The only improvements on defense I see is tackling and hustle. We hustle and gang tackle more this year, but all of the other issues remain.

Leave Special Teams along, as far as adjustments. They are playing well on both sides of the ball.

Finally, we can win 80% of the games left on our schedule IF, IF, IF we keep improving and the defense finds out how to play well, DEFENSE. Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Georgia have some real problems and are beatable. As much as it pains me to say this, Bama is at an entirely different level than we are, FOR RIGHT NOW. Fortunately, we have time to improve and be in the same league with Bama. It is going to be a real fight for the rest of the season, but we have a chance to emerge with 8-9 wins.

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This thread will implode with negativity so let me try and be bit more optimistic before it breaks loose....who is questioning CGM offense?...it has been productive everywhere...including Auburn, QB play was to erratic early on, hopefully SW can take the lead for rest of season and the running game can get better....Westry was getting worked over by Ricardo before his eye got poked... I think Carlton Davis will make you forget about Westry before he leaves AU. I think AU has a chance in every game, specifically the at home schedule. TAMU still worries me a bit but if the offense is clicking by then I think team can pull it out...

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This thread will implode with negativity so let me try and be bit more optimistic before it breaks loose....who is questioning CGM offense?...it has been productive everywhere...including Auburn, QB play was to erratic early on, hopefully SW can take the lead for rest of season and the running game can get better....Westry was getting worked over by Ricardo before his eye got poked... I think Carlton Davis will make you forget about Westry before he leaves AU. I think AU has a chance in every game, specifically the at home schedule. TAMU still worries me a bit but if the offense is clicking by then I think team can pull it out...

Thanks hugely....I was ready to go and jump off my back deck after scanning some of those posts. Whoever started this pity party really needs to call a " help line" and seek counseling or something.....and as often noted, misery loves company and seems it found plenty on this board. :'(

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After yesterday, 'most' of the rest of the SEC has come back to us. If we use that as the barometer we are not that far off. I mentioned this in another thread, but the fact is, if the MSU game had been SW's 2nd start instead of his 1st, we are 5-1 right now. IF we continue to improve every week and IF we take it one game at a time, we can have a respectable season.

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After yesterday, 'most' of the rest of the SEC has come back to us. If we use that as the barometer we are not that far off. I mentioned this in another thread, but the fact is, if the MSU game had been SW's 2nd start instead of his 1st, we are 5-1 right now. IF we continue to improve every week and IF we take it one game at a time, we can have a respectable season.

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I'm one who thought UK would be the difference in a 5-7, 6-6 season. As others have noted, the SEC as a whole this year looks flat. With our competition going forward, I think it provides a great "level up" experience. For instance, if we played like we did against UK that we played against SJSU, we probably would have gotten beat. There was just enough improvement to get the W. Largely, I think the same implies over the next few weeks with Arky, UM, and TAMU. The keys for this young (not using this as an excuse, so please don't jump on me that I'm using it as a crutch for a team who failed expectations) team in those three games will be to start fast. Even a 7-0 lead in all those games leaves room for error and doesn't have guys playing with tightness early. I still don't think the offense is good enough to "outscore" too many teams yet, but if the defense can start turning 7s into 3s, 4-2 over the next stretch is plausible.

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The reason that bammer has such a successful rushing attack is that no one has the stones to tackle Henry. Ole Miss proved that he is stoppable if you are willing to man up. Stop Henry, you stop bammer. That is the key.

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I might not be the most knowledgeable of the X & O plays. However, I am a student of the heart and soul and how this drives young men to do things that sometimes others do not feel they are capable of. This team is 4-2 at the halfway mark. We could be worse and with a few good plays here and there could be 5-1 or possibly 6-0. The LSU game was the toughest while playing on their home field.

The thing that I came away with on Thursday night was that this team is not in any way ready to give up. I saw something that I love to see in an Auburn team that I have seen down through the past decades. This is a coming together force that many of you that are older like me have witnessed. There have been teams that were good in the past, but just did not have a defining game or moment and never lived up to their potential.

I think we may be in for a treat for the 2nd half of the season. I honestly do. I would be more than satisfied for us to go 4-2. I feel that this is what may very well happen. 5-1 is possible with a break here and there.

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Yup. After Saturday I would say Arky, Ole Miss, and Ga are beatable, but it will take us improving each and every week in terms of execution. The KY game was a great start, cause Stoops has them playing at a much higher level than before. If we build upon that and get even better, then Arky becomes beatable. If that happens, then it starts to look good.

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Today I have hope.A few weeks ago I did not.My guess is 8-4 and maybe a bowl win for 9-4 overall.

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I'm one who thought UK would be the difference in a 5-7, 6-6 season. As others have noted, the SEC as a whole this year looks flat. With our competition going forward, I think it provides a great "level up" experience. For instance, if we played like we did against UK that we played against SJSU, we probably would have gotten beat. There was just enough improvement to get the W. Largely, I think the same implies over the next few weeks with Arky, UM, and TAMU. The keys for this young (not using this as an excuse, so please don't jump on me that I'm using it as a crutch for a team who failed expectations) team in those three games will be to start fast. Even a 7-0 lead in all those games leaves room for error and doesn't have guys playing with tightness early. I still don't think the offense is good enough to "outscore" too many teams yet, but if the defense can start turning 7s into 3s, 4-2 over the next stretch is plausible.

Good commentary....and as for failing to meet "expectations' ...it's worth asking about the reality of those expectations.

Since summer, I raised doubts about those lofty expectations wondering how we could lose 26+ seniors and our entire backfield, many key defenders, the middle of our offensive line....and yet..... we were going to be better than the team that lost 5 games. JMO but a person had to be smoking something or just totally oblivious to reality to expect that. Follow that by a quarterback (Heisman candidate/NFL early departure) who was not able to adjust to Div 1 football. Shoot....some objective observers might say the team has done about as well as could be expected....or better.

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The reason that bammer has such a successful rushing attack is that no one has the stones to tackle Henry. Ole Miss proved that he is stoppable if you are willing to man up. Stop Henry, you stop bammer. That is the key.

And to back this up, even Cam Robinson said that A&M's players didn't want to tackle Henry. Pitiful.
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I was impressed by how a&m's dB's attacked Henry myself. It was the first time I saw db's knock him back and tackle him alone. Now their linebacker play was non existent and their db's making all the tackles isn't good. It actually sound like our defense but their D line play was actually ok

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this team is neck-deep in doo doo and sinking

We just beat a team that was 2-1 in SEC play...on the road...on a Thursday night in one of the most hyped games in that program's history in front of a sold out and rowdy crowd...we must be terrible, right? :facepalm:

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Yup. After Saturday I would say Arky, Ole Miss, and Ga are beatable, but it will take us improving each and every week in terms of execution. The KY game was a great start, cause Stoops has them playing at a much higher level than before. If we build upon that and get even better, then Arky becomes beatable. If that happens, then it starts to look good.

I agree with this. After the Jax State game, I was ready to throw in the towel on this season. I was sure that the lackluster performance against LSU confirmed my fears. But, I saw some spark (albeit, faint) in the KY game. With the loss of Chubb, the GA game becomes a possibility. The Memphis game confirmed that the Ole MIss game is winnable and the Toledo game confirms that Arky is winnable. That puts us at eight wins (possibly--counting Idaho game).

But, Texas A&M is a very gifted and physical team. They just ran up against a buzz saw called the Alabama defense which is playing lights out. We might be able to keep the Texas A&M game respectable (a 7-10 point loss) but the Bama game will be another ho-hum, thank goodness the season is over game. We will be fortunate to keep it to a 21 point loss and we may not even score a TD against Bama.

Best case scenario from where I set, 8-4 season.

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