How did restoring diplomatic relations with Cuba work out?

[TheBlueVue 177]

It worked out fine for Castro but clearly his dictatorship is the only thing benefiting from it. Ever noticed how much more eager Obama is to work with and please dictators than he is with democratically elected officials? I have.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/cuba/12062904/How-more-Cubans-are-fleeing-for-the-US-than-ever.html

[AURaptor 1,137]

“Now we all want to leave Cuba more than ever,” she said.

In a hurry to leave the People's Paradise ? The land of free healthcare ?

Inconceivable !

[cptau 169]

obama couldn't help himself, he wanted credit for it. It would have been better to wait until the Castro brothers are both gone in a couple of years. Fidel will be 90 Raul will be 85. There's a lot of money robe made modernizing Cuba. It has missed out on much of on the tourism boom in last 60 years because of the casto dictatorship.

[AURaptor 1,137]

This is how the Soviet Union fell so fast. You can't parcel out bits and pieces of freedom to people. They are either free, or they aren't. It seems as if not much has changed.

[TheBlueVue 177]

This is how the Soviet Union fell so fast. You can't parcel out bits and pieces of freedom to people. They are either free, or they aren't. It seems as if not much has changed.

The only people who actually believed anything would change for the better for the Cuban people were all the useful idiots who would defend any and everything Barry does w/o ever questioning any of it.

[AURaptor 1,137]

" Unprecedented "

[TexasTiger 16,110]

"Rolls eyes."

[AURaptor 1,137]

“Now we all want to leave Cuba more than ever,” she said.

"Rolls eyes."

Yeah, Cuban chicks. Am I right ?

[homersapien 12,919]

This is how the Soviet Union fell so fast. You can't parcel out bits and pieces of freedom to people. They are either free, or they aren't. It seems as if not much has changed.

The only people who actually believed anything would change for the better for the Cuban people were all the useful idiots who would defend any and everything Barry does w/o ever questioning any of it.

Do you really not see the paradox in your post?

[TexasTiger 16,110]

“Now we all want to leave Cuba more than ever,” she said.

"Rolls eyes."

Yeah, Cuban chicks. Am I right ?

End the stupid embargo. That's much bigger than opening embassies.

They want to leave because they know all they have to do is arrive to be granted asylum. Do you agree with that?

[AURaptor 1,137]

"Now we all want to leave Cuba more than ever," she said.

"Rolls eyes."

Yeah, Cuban chicks. Am I right ?

End the stupid embargo. That's much bigger than opening embassies.

They want to leave because they know all they have to do is arrive to be granted asylum. Do you agree with that?

Oh, I'm sure they want to leave ASAP and get granted a fast pass to USA citizenship, but I don't agree on the rest of it. The embargo should stay as long as the Castros carry on w/ their idiotic " revolution "crap.

This is Barry's mess, and his shortsightedness has yet again caused things to turn into a worse cluster ****.

[TexasTiger 16,110]

"Now we all want to leave Cuba more than ever," she said.

"Rolls eyes."

Yeah, Cuban chicks. Am I right ?

End the stupid embargo. That's much bigger than opening embassies.

They want to leave because they know all they have to do is arrive to be granted asylum. Do you agree with that?

Oh, I'm sure they want to leave ASAP and get granted a fast pass to USA citizenship, but I don't agree on the rest of it. The embargo should stay as long as the Castros carry on w/ their idiotic " revolution "crap.

This is Barry's mess, and his shortsightedness has yet again caused things to turn into a worse cluster ****.

What has the embargo done? Should we have one with China? Saudi Arabia?

[AURaptor 1,137]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

[TitanTiger 22,262]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

No, it's about consistency. Make a coherent reason why we should treat China or Vietnam differently than Cuba. Why can't we become trading partners with them the same way we are with Vietnam?

[JoeBags7277 760]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

No, it's about consistency. Make a coherent reason why we should treat China or Vietnam differently than Cuba. Why can't we become trading partners with them the same way we are with Vietnam?

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[AURaptor 1,137]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

No, it's about consistency. Make a coherent reason why we should treat China or Vietnam differently than Cuba. Why can't we become trading partners with them the same way we are with Vietnam?

Ask JFK.

I know those other countries aren't 90 miles off our coast.

[TheBlueVue 177]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

No, it's about consistency. Make a coherent reason why we should treat China or Vietnam differently than Cuba. Why can't we become trading partners with them the same way we are with Vietnam?

The main reason we cant is because they aint got diddle squat to trade. They pay their people subsistence wages and do not manufacture squat. Now if they had a growing economy you may have a point. They dont! This is pretty predictable among communist dictatorships with socialist economies. Doctors make like $50 a month, electricians $12 a month...these are facts.

[TexasTiger 16,110]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

No, it's about consistency. Make a coherent reason why we should treat China or Vietnam differently than Cuba. Why can't we become trading partners with them the same way we are with Vietnam?

The main reason we cant is because they aint got diddle squat to trade. They pay their people subsistence wages and do not manufacture squat. Now if they had a growing economy you may have a point. They dont! This is pretty predictable among communist dictatorships with socialist economies. Doctors make like $50 a month, electricians $12 a month...these are facts.

They need to buy food from our farmers.

[TexasTiger 16,110]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

You think international policy should take place in a vacuum? We shouldn't have an actual coherent philosophy?

[AURaptor 1,137]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

You think international policy should take place in a vacuum? We shouldn't have an actual coherent philosophy?

I think it was a very poor choice to reward Cuba for having done nothing w/ regards to human rights. Much like this admin caved and gave away the store w/ Iran, and receiving nothing in return.

That's what I think.

[homersapien 12,919]

It worked out fine for Castro but clearly his dictatorship is the only thing benefiting from it. Ever noticed how much more eager Obama is to work with and please dictators than he is with democratically elected officials? I have.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/cuba/12062904/How-more-Cubans-are-fleeing-for-the-US-than-ever.html

Dictators are a higher class of people

[japantiger 4,279]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

You think international policy should take place in a vacuum? We shouldn't have an actual coherent philosophy?

I think it was a very poor choice to reward Cuba for having done nothing w/ regards to human rights. Much like this admin caved and gave away the store w/ Iran, and receiving nothing in return.

That's what I think.

Come on Raptor....the smartest man in the world, the man that makes press members legs tingle, the ditty-bopper in chief, the Nobel Peace Prize winner wouldn't do that...obviously, he heard something on the news shows that made him think it was a good idea ... didn't you feel the earth cool when he did this? Haven't you seen the Muslim crazies stop trying to kill us for all his foreign policy decisions....oh, wait....

[AUFAN78 4,272]

It worked out fine for Castro but clearly his dictatorship is the only thing benefiting from it. Ever noticed how much more eager Obama is to work with and please dictators than he is with democratically elected officials? I have.

http://www.telegraph...-than-ever.html

Dictators are a higher class of people

[TexasTiger 16,110]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

You think international policy should take place in a vacuum? We shouldn't have an actual coherent philosophy?

I think it was a very poor choice to reward Cuba for having done nothing w/ regards to human rights. Much like this admin caved and gave away the store w/ Iran, and receiving nothing in return.

That's what I think.

Come on Raptor....the smartest man in the world, the man that makes press members legs tingle, the ditty-bopper in chief, the Nobel Peace Prize winner wouldn't do that...obviously, he heard something on the news shows that made him think it was a good idea ... didn't you feel the earth cool when he did this? Haven't you seen the Muslim crazies stop trying to kill us for all his foreign policy decisions....oh, wait....

More derangement syndrome.

[japantiger 4,279]

Oh yeah, because other kids down the block did something wrong...

The issue is w/ Cuba. Period. Deal w/ that, and stop trying to deflect

You think international policy should take place in a vacuum? We shouldn't have an actual coherent philosophy?

I think it was a very poor choice to reward Cuba for having done nothing w/ regards to human rights. Much like this admin caved and gave away the store w/ Iran, and receiving nothing in return.

That's what I think.

Come on Raptor....the smartest man in the world, the man that makes press members legs tingle, the ditty-bopper in chief, the Nobel Peace Prize winner wouldn't do that...obviously, he heard something on the news shows that made him think it was a good idea ... didn't you feel the earth cool when he did this? Haven't you seen the Muslim crazies stop trying to kill us for all his foreign policy decisions....oh, wait....

More derangement syndrome.

Let's see...Smartest man in the world...Democrat strategist and press claims...legs tingle; Chris Mathews fawning direct quote on the air...Ditty Bopper in Chief, OK, that's mine but you can't seriously say he doesn't walk like a Port-a-Prince ganja salesman...Nobel Peace prize...again, factual statement....heard about it on the news is his standard go to line when he is "surprised" by something every other person on the planet knew ...feel the earth cool is his direct quote from his inauguration (an d you say I'm deranged!)..a guy actually had the nerve to claim that because of his inauguration, we would mark it as the day the earth began to cool and the oceans receded...not only does he walk like a ganja salesman, he obviously uses the product ... and so do those that believe his bull****...and lastly, yeah, let's just have a whole thread on his foreign policy follies, it will be fun.