cptau 169 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The CFP people had messed up TV scheduling putting the CFP semi-final games on new years eve and the not selected teams playing on New Years day CFP bowls. As the article points out the Rose and Sugar will not move out of their New Years day slots and the Orange historically likes New Year eve. Trying to mesh a playoff with the existing money making machines of the old bowl games on New Years day will not be easy. Add to that the problem that 4 of the bowls in the CFP system were not competitive. Either Clemson and UAT are way ahead of the field or the CFP overlooked teams that played and won in the other CFP bowls. Cotton, mismatch Orange, mismatch Rose, mismatch Sugar, mismatch Fiesta, slightly competitive Peach, competitive http://sports.yahoo.com/news/awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-executives-there-is-a-limit-to-greed-001910612-ncaaf.html College Football Playoff executives said they were going to change the paradigm of New Year's Eve in America and instead Americans changed the paradigm of the College Football Playoff. Many of them didn't watch. There are 12.5 million reasons why 12.5 million fewer people tuned into the first semifinal game this year than last. There's another 10 million why they didn't watch the second one. The most obvious is that they moved the games from New Year's Day to New Year's Eve and then told their customers to deal with it. It was an act of arrogance, of course, but also ignorance because the bubble in which these suits exist doesn't lend to interaction with folks who have jobs that don't take place in corner offices, you know, places where "just stream it on your smart phone" isn't an option. You move an event from a national holiday synonymous with the sport to the middle of a workday for many and this is what happens – ratings drop as much as 45 percent. Double that by placing a second game on a night with endless entertainment options and longstanding traditions and you're completely spitting in the face of many of your fans. They ran months of Jimmy Kimmel ads telling people to change everything but the party in the commercial didn't even have a single television for people at the party to actually watch football. So not even the mascots were tuning in. (Kimmel tweeted out a video from New Year's Eve of him counting down to midnight with Howard Stern and Billy Joel at some concert, so he apparently didn't plan accordingly either.) So that's one explanation. Just, 12,499,999 more to go. The New Year's Eve experience was a two-fold disaster. Not only did millions fewer people watch the playoff games, but it sucked all the life out of New Year's Day. Normally the Jan. 1 games serve as a lead-in to the big game (like they did even during the BCS and last year); now they just feel like exhibitions. Sure, some of the bowl games turned into complete duds – Stanford jumped Iowa so viciously that when the Cardinal Band mockingly played a halftime tribute to FarmersOnly.com, it felt mean. (Not really, it was still funny.) That doesn't fully explain the 7.9 rating – the lowest on record (dating back to 1983). Blowouts don't normally cause such terrible disinterest. There's been a million of them. Consider the 2009 Rose Bowl: it was a game with no national title implications, USC led Penn State 31-7 in the first half in a game that, like this year, and it was never competitive (a couple late, meaningless scores caused the final to be USC 38-24). People still watched – 20.6 million of them, or 10 percent more than either of this year's semifinals. The playoff is still controlled by the bowls, or commissioners who are beholden to the bowls. They gave those sites essentially no bid contracts to stage massively profitable games that the sport pointlessly outsources to them. You can never prevent lopsided games. They happen. You can schedule to limit their impact. The whole sport seemed to stop dead in its tracks a little after halftime of Alabama-Michigan State. New Year's Day was an afterthought. That's how it is though and how it will stay. The Rose Bowl says it won't move from 5 p.m. ET on New Year's Day. The Sugar Bowl says it won't move from later that night. Why would they? It's easy money. The commissioners are fine with it because four leagues make a few more million and no one is looking out for the common good. Next year New Year's Eve will be on a Saturday, which is a huge benefit (and will deliver ratings increases that the playoff will take credit for). But the Rose, et al, won't get staged for two days, after a NFL Sunday. Strange won't begin to describe it. Soon enough it'll be back to weekday/workday. They could just make the Rose and Sugar permanent semifinal sites, but then four other bowls wouldn't be able to profit wildly off this. If there is one thing to know about major college athletics, it's that the graft needs to be spread around (except to the players … unless forced by a federal judge). How much, for instance, did their buddy who runs the Sugar Bowl make in 2014? How's $753,546, per tax records. A second guy made $494,589. It's nice work if you play golf with a commissioner who will allow it. Whatever. You get what you get, a dud of a couple days of football and a lot of predictable excuses. "That decline, frankly, is not much of a surprise and it's modest," playoff executive director Bill Hancock told the Associated Press. A 45 percent drop in viewers for one semifinal? Record lows for the Rose Bowl? No buzz? Inconvenienced customers? Others who simply took the whole thing as a slap in the face? It's all just a modest non-surprise to these guys. They expected 12.5 million of you wouldn't/couldn't watch. They didn't care. They should schedule the playoff so the other bowls serve as a buildup to semifinals that begin on New Year's Day afternoon, when far fewer people have to work and far more people are desperate to watch this grand sport surge to a crescendo. Why is that too much to ask? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Who can predict mis-matches? As for the games, Clemson and Oklahoma....you had to be an alum or football nut to care....after all, it was just the semi-final game and not quite as big a deal as the media guys try to make of it...JMO.... Pretty much the same for the bama-Michigan State game. As for attendance, how many alums can afford to travel to two games just over a week apart?. From the discussions I heard, many people just rolled the dice and decided to wait....hoping their teams would be in the finals. That's the problem with a semi-final game....it's not a conclusive game and the semi-fans knew it. As for the bowl games in general, I peaked in on most games and on-site attendance looked pretty good. The best crowd was at Memphis for the Arky-KSU game...the place was packed and rocking as was the game in San Antonio. . Meanwhile, the media guys can cry me a river about having to make the difficult choice of watching the games....or partying with their buds or whatever....life is just unfair for those guys it seems. And as for their appreciation for the history of the game and the place of bowl games in the play-off plan and the lore of college football...IMO their willful ignorance is downright pathetic. It's all about them...and their feigned concern for 12.5 million people who were "deprived" of their right to watch a college football game on TV because the schedule was not convenient for them. What a crock... Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoALtiger 4,308 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Mismatches can't be helped unless someone can predict the future but NYE game times can. It is inconvenient for most folks to play these games though and if I were in charge, I'd look at making a slight change. That could be a huge difference. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The issue was that the playoff games were on New Year's Eve when most people already have plans. Hence the major decline in viewing numbers. That didn't make a lick of sense. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The playoffs wanted an exclusivity with no TV competition....don't think you can get that on New Year's day where major Bowls have had traditional events planned for years. Just asking but are all other bowl games and committees supposed to change their game dates and events to allow the two play-off games to be the only TV games that day.....I can't see that happening....JMO. The only game that really counts anyway is the final on Monday.... Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltigger21 0 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The playoffs wanted an exclusivity with no TV competition....don't think you can get that on New Year's day where major Bowls have had traditional events planned for years. Just asking but are all other bowl games and committees supposed to change their game dates and events to allow the two play-off games to be the only TV games that day.....I can't see that happening....JMO. The only game that really counts anyway is the final on Monday.... These were intriguing matches. They really should have been on Saturday. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoALtiger 4,308 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Just play the playoff games on the 2nd and roll. Seems like an easy fix. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The playoffs wanted an exclusivity with no TV competition....don't think you can get that on New Year's day where major Bowls have had traditional events planned for years. Just asking but are all other bowl games and committees supposed to change their game dates and events to allow the two play-off games to be the only TV games that day.....I can't see that happening....JMO. The only game that really counts anyway is the final on Monday.... These were intriguing matches. They really should have been on Saturday. Can't argue that...just saying that if they wanted to play on Saturday, there was no way they could get the "exclusive" TV position that they had on NY eve. I just can't see all those other bowl committees shuffling their events and games around to make it convenient for the 2 bowls hosting the play-off. Peach Bowl let their traditional NY eve slot go for example. As it was, they pushed 8 games into just two days ....into the middle of the week to give the play-off games more or less uncontested slots. Sure, the playoff games could have been on Saturday but their TV coverage and attention would have been shared with other games...and basketball. And I think they were trying to give the winners (teams and fans) a couple extra days to get set for the championship game. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUwent 3,973 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The Rose Bowl is a big part of the problem. If they could just play the game at 1 ET/10 PT (early yes but the Outback Bowl used to be played at 11 ET/10 CT so tough) on years it wasn't a semi-final and have the parade at night, this problem would be completely solved. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
around4ever 4,140 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The Rose and Sugar Bowls are tradition for college football. I can see why the CFP Committee wants to include them in the playoff system but the bowls should be told if you want to be a part of the plan then you have to follow the plan in off years. This year was actually the perfect scenario for them but the committee blew it. The two playoff games should have been scheduled for Saturday, 1/2 at 4:30PM and 8PM EST. The committee could have taken two of the other bowl games on that day and moved them to Monday and Tuesday, 1/4 and 1/5, or earlier in the New Years week. I'm sorry but college basketball would have to schedule around the playoff games. With 40 bowl games there is no way to not have any times coinciding or overlapping with each other and college basketball. The Rose and Sugar Bowls costs the CFP a lot of future money by not playing along. The advertisers during the playoff games will look at these numbers the next time these bowls are not in the playoff system. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The Rose and Sugar Bowls are tradition for college football. I can see why the CFP Committee wants to include them in the playoff system but the bowls should be told if you want to be a part of the plan then you have to follow the plan in off years. This year was actually the perfect scenario for them but the committee blew it. The two playoff games should have been scheduled for Saturday, 1/2 at 4:30PM and 8PM EST. The committee could have taken two of the other bowl games on that day and moved them to Monday and Tuesday, 1/4 and 1/5, or earlier in the New Years week. I'm sorry but college basketball would have to schedule around the playoff games. With 40 bowl games there is no way to not have any times coinciding or overlapping with each other and college basketball. The Rose and Sugar Bowls costs the CFP a lot of future money by not playing along. The advertisers during the playoff games will look at these numbers the next time these bowls are not in the playoff system. When money is the reason for doing something with schedules I'm automatically against it....just old fashioned I guess. I've watched college football sell out to ESPN and frankly I don't give a $&^@ if CFP does not maximize it's revenue when it is doing so at the expense of the bowl games that for 60+ years have generated a ton of fun for college football players and fans....and generated money for local community charities. Now the CFP is just going to elbow them out of the way so they can make more money. CFP is big-footing the bowl games and offering most of them nothing in return. By and large, four teams each year benefit from the new system and something like 30 or so bowls and schools are expected to take a back-seat to make it more convenient and profitable for who? ..why the media conglomerates who have created these entertainment monopolies....that's who. As for the media whiners.....I'm also automatically suspicious of anyone who gets paid by the eye-ball or click.....they have a vested interest in making the system fit what makes them the most money. JMO...but this all about MONEY...and nothing about fans of the game. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
around4ever 4,140 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The Rose and Sugar Bowls are tradition for college football. I can see why the CFP Committee wants to include them in the playoff system but the bowls should be told if you want to be a part of the plan then you have to follow the plan in off years. This year was actually the perfect scenario for them but the committee blew it. The two playoff games should have been scheduled for Saturday, 1/2 at 4:30PM and 8PM EST. The committee could have taken two of the other bowl games on that day and moved them to Monday and Tuesday, 1/4 and 1/5, or earlier in the New Years week. I'm sorry but college basketball would have to schedule around the playoff games. With 40 bowl games there is no way to not have any times coinciding or overlapping with each other and college basketball. The Rose and Sugar Bowls costs the CFP a lot of future money by not playing along. The advertisers during the playoff games will look at these numbers the next time these bowls are not in the playoff system. When money is the reason for doing something with schedules I'm automatically against it....just old fashioned I guess. I've watched college football sell out to ESPN and frankly I don't give a $&^@ if CFP does not maximize it's revenue when it is doing so at the expense of the bowl games that for 60+ years have generated a ton of fun for college football players and fans....and generated money for local community charities. Now the CFP is just going to elbow them out of the way so they can make more money. CFP is big-footing the bowl games and offering most of them nothing in return. By and large, four teams each year benefit from the new system and something like 30 or so bowls and schools are expected to take a back-seat to make it more convenient and profitable for who? ..why the media conglomerates who have created these entertainment monopolies....that's who. As for the media whiners.....I'm also automatically suspicious of anyone who gets paid by the eye-ball or click.....they have a vested interest in making the system fit what makes them the most money. JMO...but this all about MONEY...and nothing about fans of the game. True, but if the TV and advertising money is not there, who suffers? College Football and the fans. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,461 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The Rose Bowl is a big part of the problem. If they could just play the game at 1 ET/10 PT (early yes but the Outback Bowl used to be played at 11 ET/10 CT so tough) on years it wasn't a semi-final and have the parade at night, this problem would be completely solved. Could say the same about the Sugar Bowl this year. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The Rose and Sugar Bowls are tradition for college football. I can see why the CFP Committee wants to include them in the playoff system but the bowls should be told if you want to be a part of the plan then you have to follow the plan in off years. This year was actually the perfect scenario for them but the committee blew it. The two playoff games should have been scheduled for Saturday, 1/2 at 4:30PM and 8PM EST. The committee could have taken two of the other bowl games on that day and moved them to Monday and Tuesday, 1/4 and 1/5, or earlier in the New Years week. I'm sorry but college basketball would have to schedule around the playoff games. With 40 bowl games there is no way to not have any times coinciding or overlapping with each other and college basketball. The Rose and Sugar Bowls costs the CFP a lot of future money by not playing along. The advertisers during the playoff games will look at these numbers the next time these bowls are not in the playoff system. When money is the reason for doing something with schedules I'm automatically against it....just old fashioned I guess. I've watched college football sell out to ESPN and frankly I don't give a $&^@ if CFP does not maximize it's revenue when it is doing so at the expense of the bowl games that for 60+ years have generated a ton of fun for college football players and fans....and generated money for local community charities. Now the CFP is just going to elbow them out of the way so they can make more money. CFP is big-footing the bowl games and offering most of them nothing in return. By and large, four teams each year benefit from the new system and something like 30 or so bowls and schools are expected to take a back-seat to make it more convenient and profitable for who? ..why the media conglomerates who have created these entertainment monopolies....that's who. As for the media whiners.....I'm also automatically suspicious of anyone who gets paid by the eye-ball or click.....they have a vested interest in making the system fit what makes them the most money. JMO...but this all about MONEY...and nothing about fans of the game. True, but if the TV and advertising money is not there, who suffers? College Football and the fans. I guess for me it's about how much is enough...the greed factor...and it is hard to see that the universities will be better off... Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149479-awful-cfp-semifinal-ratings-show-sport-still-lacks-common-sense/#findComment-2412415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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