RunInRed 19,668 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Nice edit, Stat! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
warhogone 103 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Absolutely! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger25 29 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 This is great! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 So, why no Kevin Greene? Not that I have a problem with T-Will. Im actually extremely happy for him and believe he's earned that job but if we really are about "For the "Love of the Game and For the Love of Auburn" we're either all in or we're not. KG could be a valuable asset to the program in many ways. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonAU 4,606 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 So, why no Kevin Greene? Not that I have a problem with T-Will. Im actually extremely happy for him and believe he's earned that job but if we really are about "For the "Love of the Game and For the Love of Auburn" we're either all in or we're not. KG could be a valuable asset to the program in many ways. Because he's never coached at a school like Auburn and doesn't know the rules of recruiting. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 So, why no Kevin Greene? Not that I have a problem with T-Will. Im actually extremely happy for him and believe he's earned that job but if we really are about "For the "Love of the Game and For the Love of Auburn" we're either all in or we're not. KG could be a valuable asset to the program in many ways. Because he's never coached at a school like Auburn and doesn't know the rules of recruiting. Oh please...thats your answer? He coached LBers in the NFL for 5 years and was a multi-year pro bowler. He also ranks third on the list of all time career sack leaders in the NFL. You dont think he could recruit? http://espn.go.com/nfl/history/leaders/_/stat/sacks Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 10,288 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 So, why no Kevin Greene? Not that I have a problem with T-Will. Im actually extremely happy for him and believe he's earned that job but if we really are about "For the "Love of the Game and For the Love of Auburn" we're either all in or we're not. KG could be a valuable asset to the program in many ways. Because he's never coached at a school like Auburn and doesn't know the rules of recruiting. Oh please...thats your answer? He coached LBers in the NFL for 5 years and was a multi-year pro bowler. He also ranks third on the list of all time career sack leaders in the NFL. You dont think he could recruit? http://espn.go.com/nfl/history/leaders/_/stat/sacks He didn't say he couldn't recruit, but that KG doesn't know the proper("legal") way to do so. KG will likely need to take an off field position to acquaint himself with the rules. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 61,284 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, he could recruit, he could easily trip over the multitude of inane rules involved with it. I say hire him for off the field and let him familiarize himself with the ins and outs for a year or two. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 61,284 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I like how you think, SMB Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 10,288 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I like how you think, SMB Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, he could recruit, he could easily trip over the multitude of inane rules involved with it. I say hire him for off the field and let him familiarize himself with the ins and outs for a year or two. I have a really hard time believing this is the company line..."he doesn't know the rules of recruiting"? Seriously? Are they like trying to decipher astrophysics or something? Good grief..the guy would be supervised and Im sure could be brought up to speed in a very short time....like in a 30 minute session or by giving him a rule book to read. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 10,288 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, he could recruit, he could easily trip over the multitude of inane rules involved with it. I say hire him for off the field and let him familiarize himself with the ins and outs for a year or two. I have a really hard time believing this is the company line..."he doesn't know the rules of recruiting"? Seriously? Are they like trying to decipher astrophysics or something? Good grief..the guy would be supervised and Im sure could be brought up to speed in a very short time....like in a 30 minute session or by giving him a rule book to read. Pretty sure it's a bit more intricate than reading a book and a 30 minute discussion. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbomb 197 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yep he really heeds to take an off field position at a major university before taking an on field position just like Gus did... Ohh wait Gus didn't do that... Insert sarcasm... Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToraGirl 5,498 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, he could recruit, he could easily trip over the multitude of inane rules involved with it. I say hire him for off the field and let him familiarize himself with the ins and outs for a year or two. I have a really hard time believing this is the company line..."he doesn't know the rules of recruiting"? Seriously? Are they like trying to decipher astrophysics or something? Good grief..the guy would be supervised and Im sure could be brought up to speed in a very short time....like in a 30 minute session or by giving him a rule book to read. Let them take that risk and watch the "AUFamily complaining threads" escalate ridiculously, beyond even now, AT THE VERY LEAST, consequentially. Translation: YOU want KG in whatever capacity YOU want. Those in a better position to know all facts and fits, whose livelihoods depend upon this decision, think otherwise. I'm going with Door #2, Monty. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 7 2,535 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 As a high school coach Gus would have been much more knowledgeable of the recruiting rules in college than a pro coach. I don't think some understand the gravity of breaking even a small rule in recruiting. For just a minor offense we might not be able to make contact with that recruit for several weeks. A coach can also be stopped from recruiting at all for a period of time for just a small violation. Believe me in this day and age it is complicated. These coaches already recruiting attend classes quite frequently to keep them up to date. Also a big difference in how you are able to treat and talk to a NFL player versus a college player. Then throw in learning about how they have to attend class and such and dealing with their young emotions, just not as easy as it seems. WDE Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Kevin Greene is soon to be a hall of famer. I say go ahead and hire him. Our elite compliance department will make him walk the straight and narrow. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, he could recruit, he could easily trip over the multitude of inane rules involved with it. I say hire him for off the field and let him familiarize himself with the ins and outs for a year or two. I have a really hard time believing this is the company line..."he doesn't know the rules of recruiting"? Seriously? Are they like trying to decipher astrophysics or something? Good grief..the guy would be supervised and Im sure could be brought up to speed in a very short time....like in a 30 minute session or by giving him a rule book to read. Pretty sure it's a bit more intricate than reading a book and a 30 minute discussion. OK lets assume it is but we're not hiring the guy to head up our compliance dept. He would be under close supervision. Regardless, the whole idea that we're not going to hire the guy because he doens't know the rules of recruiting its just about the lamest excuse Ive ever seen. How did Gus Malzahn get hired straight out of HS as co-offensive coordinator @ ARK ..... Yareckon he convinced the PTB @ ARK he could pass a test on the rules of collegiate recruiting? How does ANY coach ever get hired at any college who hasn't been a college coach before? Answer..it happens ALL THE TIME and could have happened with Kevin Greene. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Hell. If we are so worried about Greene recruiting, then don't let him recruit. Just let him work as a linebacker developer full time for a while. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 10,288 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, he could recruit, he could easily trip over the multitude of inane rules involved with it. I say hire him for off the field and let him familiarize himself with the ins and outs for a year or two. I have a really hard time believing this is the company line..."he doesn't know the rules of recruiting"? Seriously? Are they like trying to decipher astrophysics or something? Good grief..the guy would be supervised and Im sure could be brought up to speed in a very short time....like in a 30 minute session or by giving him a rule book to read. Pretty sure it's a bit more intricate than reading a book and a 30 minute discussion. OK lets assume it is but we're not hiring the guy to head up our compliance dept. He would be under close supervision. Regardless, the whole idea that we're not going to hire the guy because he doens't know the rules of recruiting its just about the lamest excuse Ive ever seen. How did Gus Malzahn get hired straight out of HS as co-offensive coordinator @ ARK ..... Yareckon he convinced the PTB @ ARK he could pass a test on the rules of collegiate recruiting? How does ANY coach ever get hired at any college who hasn't been a college coach before? Answer..it happens ALL THE TIME and could have happened with Kevin Greene. Eagle Eye already addressed your points. But whatever. The whole argument seems moot because it's apparent he won't be coaching for us this season. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, he could recruit, he could easily trip over the multitude of inane rules involved with it. I say hire him for off the field and let him familiarize himself with the ins and outs for a year or two. I have a really hard time believing this is the company line..."he doesn't know the rules of recruiting"? Seriously? Are they like trying to decipher astrophysics or something? Good grief..the guy would be supervised and Im sure could be brought up to speed in a very short time....like in a 30 minute session or by giving him a rule book to read. Pretty sure it's a bit more intricate than reading a book and a 30 minute discussion. OK lets assume it is but we're not hiring the guy to head up our compliance dept. He would be under close supervision. Regardless, the whole idea that we're not going to hire the guy because he doens't know the rules of recruiting its just about the lamest excuse Ive ever seen. How did Gus Malzahn get hired straight out of HS as co-offensive coordinator @ ARK ..... Yareckon he convinced the PTB @ ARK he could pass a test on the rules of collegiate recruiting? How does ANY coach ever get hired at any college who hasn't been a college coach before? Answer..it happens ALL THE TIME and could have happened with Kevin Greene. Eagle Eye already addressed your points. But whatever. The whole argument seems moot because it's apparent he won't be coaching for us this season. Is it? So, the talk that he may be brought in as an off the field coach had no merit? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 10,288 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, he could recruit, he could easily trip over the multitude of inane rules involved with it. I say hire him for off the field and let him familiarize himself with the ins and outs for a year or two. I have a really hard time believing this is the company line..."he doesn't know the rules of recruiting"? Seriously? Are they like trying to decipher astrophysics or something? Good grief..the guy would be supervised and Im sure could be brought up to speed in a very short time....like in a 30 minute session or by giving him a rule book to read. Pretty sure it's a bit more intricate than reading a book and a 30 minute discussion. OK lets assume it is but we're not hiring the guy to head up our compliance dept. He would be under close supervision. Regardless, the whole idea that we're not going to hire the guy because he doens't know the rules of recruiting its just about the lamest excuse Ive ever seen. How did Gus Malzahn get hired straight out of HS as co-offensive coordinator @ ARK ..... Yareckon he convinced the PTB @ ARK he could pass a test on the rules of collegiate recruiting? How does ANY coach ever get hired at any college who hasn't been a college coach before? Answer..it happens ALL THE TIME and could have happened with Kevin Greene. Eagle Eye already addressed your points. But whatever. The whole argument seems moot because it's apparent he won't be coaching for us this season. Is it? So, the talk that he may be brought in as an off the field coach had no merit? I suppose I should have specified "position coach". Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 As a high school coach Gus would have been much more knowledgeable of the recruiting rules in college than a pro coach. I don't think some understand the gravity of breaking even a small rule in recruiting. For just a minor offense we might not be able to make contact with that recruit for several weeks. A coach can also be stopped from recruiting at all for a period of time for just a small violation. Believe me in this day and age it is complicated. These coaches already recruiting attend classes quite frequently to keep them up to date. Also a big difference in how you are able to treat and talk to a NFL player versus a college player. Then throw in learning about how they have to attend class and such and dealing with their young emotions, just not as easy as it seems. WDE So you're saying Gus knew all the rules. How do you know that? BTW, Kevin Greene has been coaching HS why is it assumed he knows nothing about it? I'd much rather somebody just say look, we hired Travis Williams because he was the guy we wanted to hire. BTW, why is it assumed that Travis Williams has extensive knowledge of recruiting. When and who has he ever recruited before? Mealy mouth excuses like KG doesn't know the rules of recruiting is the reason we didn't hire him is almost insulting.. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potatooooooes!! 1,461 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 As a high school coach Gus would have been much more knowledgeable of the recruiting rules in college than a pro coach. I don't think some understand the gravity of breaking even a small rule in recruiting. For just a minor offense we might not be able to make contact with that recruit for several weeks. A coach can also be stopped from recruiting at all for a period of time for just a small violation. Believe me in this day and age it is complicated. These coaches already recruiting attend classes quite frequently to keep them up to date. Also a big difference in how you are able to treat and talk to a NFL player versus a college player. Then throw in learning about how they have to attend class and such and dealing with their young emotions, just not as easy as it seems. WDE So you're saying Gus knew all the rules. How do you know that? BTW, Kevin Greene has been coaching HS why is it assumed he knows nothing about it? I'd much rather somebody just say look, we hired Travis Williams because he was the guy we wanted to hire. BTW, why is it assumed that Travis Williams has extensive knowledge of recruiting. Mealy mouth excuses like KG doesn't know recruiting is the reason we didn't hire him is almost insulting.. What is your problem? Do you have any idea how easy it is to earn a costly violation? Even small ones can have significant prices. Yes Greene can be supervised, but wouldn't it be better to not have to have some one hold his hand in recruiting all year, while at the same time hiring him as an off the field coach? He's on our staff, no recruiting problems. It's the best of both worlds, and I can't for the life of me figure out why you're acting like Gus has gravely wronged you in some way Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc4aday 1,887 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I love Auburn as much as any of my brethren Auburn fans. I am not sure who are the coaches in the first post in this post. Could someone tell me who they are? I will appreciate this very much! WRE & War Damn Corgi! My Pembroke Welsh Corgi is a fierce Auburn fan, and watches the games with me. I have her trained to bark when Auburn scores. She growls when the opposing team scores. She proudly wears her Auburn collar, and will bite the crap out of you if you do not take it off the right way for when I give her a bath. I have scares on both hands where she has biten me throughout her life. Most of them were deserved in that I was doing something where I was in the wrong. She is great with kids and has a sense that they should be treated differently that adults. The only folks that have been bitten by her are my brother and a good friend from Louisiana. I am the only one that she broke the skin. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchids 268 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Nice edit, Stat! purdy. Nice Stat! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/149588-for-the-love-of-the-game-for-the-love-of-auburn/#findComment-2416902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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