Why do some liberals dislike FOX NEWS?

[Auburn85 413]

I wonder about this question. Is it because FOX steps on Democrats toes like CNN,MSNBC step on Republican toes?

Tim Robbin has came out and said you're not going to get a fair judgement on a story on CNN,MSNBC, but especially not FOX news

Does anyone here watch and/or like Fox News.

I like FOX the best. I do watch CNN and MSNBC on a regualr basis too.

[TrueBlue72 0]

The libbies hate Fox because they refuse to bow to the liberal causes and celebreties. Fox calls it as they see it without the severe liberal bias that you get from all the other networks. Also the libbies hate Fox because it is now the most watched new network in addition to the above. The libbies have had a 30+ year run of consistent liberal bias on network TV with no alternative and the American people still don't trust the liberals or thier agenda. How dare Fox give the American people an alternative to the liberal force feeding we've been saddled with for all those years. Poor libbies, something else to hate.

[Auburn85 413]

Canada just recently got FOX news, but they already had AL-JAZEERA

[Piglet 0]

Liberals hate FOX because FOX is conservative. Duh. You might as well ask why conservatives don't like the New York Times.

[bigsixfive 327]

FOX really isn't conservative if you're honest... Its pretty even. Hannity and Colmes is the only show that seems conservative to me, but every other major network has a show where they gang up on a Republican. I've seen O'Reilly tear into conservatives just as he does the liberals. I think his conservative label comes from the rippings he gives some prominent Democrats that make rediculous claims and statements. The basic news is reported just like any other network, which favors liberal thought. Its all bad, no good, everyone is dying, no one is helping stuff. Before I get blasted, let me say that n itself, that's not liberal. It's what draws attention because its dramatic. It favors liberal thought because it shines a negative light on whats going on in Iraq.

[Auburn85 413]

Fox is conservative how? Because John Kerry says it is? Or maybe actor Tim Robbins? Why do you think they are conservative?

[TexasTiger 10,991]

Fox is conservative how? Because John Kerry says it is? Or maybe actor Tim Robbins? Why do you think they are conservative?

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Broadcast journalism is lousy across the board, especially cable news. Fox is by far the most politically biased. Here's their CEO, a master media image manipulator for the Republicans:

AILES, ROGER

U.S. Media Consultant/Producer/Executive

Roger Eugene Ailes is one of television's most versatile, outspoken, and successful producers and consultants. He has been described as "the amusingly ferocious Republican media genius" and a "pit-bull Republican media strategist turned television tycoon." He has had a variety of careers, including producer of television shows, Shakespearean plays, and Off-Broadway, and president of the cable television channels CNBC and America's Talking.

Ailes' career in television began in Cleveland, Ohio, where he was a producer and director for KYW-TV, for a then-locally produced talk-variety show, The Mike Douglas Show. He later became executive producer for The Mike Douglas Show, which syndicated nationally. He received two Emmy Awards for The Mike Douglas Show (1967, 1968). It was in this position, in 1967, that he had a spirited discussion about television in politics with one of the show's guests, Richard Nixon, who took the view that television was a gimmick. Later, Nixon called on Ailes to serve as his executive producer of TV. Nixon's election victory was only Ailes' first venture into presidential television.

Ailes carried out political consulting for many candidates during the 1970s and 1980s, but returned to presidential campaigning as a consultant to Ronald Reagan in 1984. He is widely credited with having coached Ronald Reagan to victory in the second presidential debate with Walter Mondale after Reagan had disappointed his partisans with a lackluster effort in the first debate. In 1984, Ailes won an Emmy Award as executive producer and director of a television special, Television and the Presidency. In 1988, Ailes wrote a book with Jon Kraushar, You Are the Message: Secrets of the Master Communicators, in which he discusses some of his philosophies and strategies for successful performance in the public media eye.

Ailes also won acclaim for his work in the 1988 presi-dential election, in which he helped guide George Bush to a come-from-behind victory over Michael Dukakis. He did not work on the losing 1992 Bush campaign against Bill Clinton. In 1991, Ailes convinced a syndicator to bring Rush Limbaugh from radio to television and became exec-utive producer of the late-night show. He announced his withdrawal from political consulting in 1992.

-Lynda Lee Kaid

ROGER (EUGENE) AILES. Born in Warren, Ohio, U.S.A., 15 May 1940. Graduated from Ohio University, Athens, Ohio, BA. 1962. Began television career as property assistant, The Mike Douglas Show, KYW-TV, Cleveland, Ohio, 1962; producer, 1965; executive producer, 1967-68; media adviser to Richard M. Nixon Presidential Campaign, 1968; founder Ailes Communication, a media production and consulting firm, 1969; producer, Broadway plays, Mother Earth, 1972, Hot-L Baltimore, 1973-76; producer, various television specials, 1974-82; media Consultant, Ronald Reagan Presidential Campaign, 1984; George W. Bush Presidential Campaign, 1988; various senatorial and Congressional campaigns; president, CNBC, cable television network, 1993-96; president and program host, America's Talking, and all-talk cable television network, 1994-96; chair and chief executive officer of FOX News and the FOX News Channel, from January 1996. Honorary Doctorate, Ohio University. Recipient: Obie Award, Best Off-BroadwayShow, 1973; EmmyAward, 1984.

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/A/htmlA/.../ailesroger.htm

If any network had a CEO with a similar Democratic pedrigee, you'd never hear the end of it.

[mcgufcm 3,872]

okay, saying fox news is "fair and balanced" is like saying cnn is straight facts, 24/7. both of them are slanted. i personally watch cnn for news b/c they generally pander to my predetermined ideas. every person i know that voted republican watches fox b/c it does the same thing for them if they admit it or not. i watch fox to find out what the conservative pulse is. bill o'reilly, neil cavuto, and that chick who talks out of the side of her mouth are as biased as anyone on cnn; it's just the opposite bias. that's why "liberals" don't like fox, and it's why "conservatives" don't like cnn.

[TexasTiger 10,991]

okay, saying fox news is "fair and balanced" is like saying cnn is straight facts, 24/7. both of them are slanted. i personally watch cnn for news b/c they generally pander to my predetermined ideas. every person i know that voted republican watches fox b/c it does the same thing for them if they admit it or not. i watch fox to find out what the conservative pulse is. bill o'reilly, neil cavuto, and that chick who talks out of the side of her mouth are as biased as anyone on cnn; it's just the opposite bias. that's why "liberals" don't like fox, and it's why "conservatives" don't like cnn.

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Larry King lets anyone, Dem or Repub, say anything they want, virtually unchallenged. Lou Dobbs has gotten on an outsourcing kick, but was very pro-war, pro-Bush earlier on. Aaron Brown probably leans left, but is pretty even-handed. Daytime anchor, Daryl Kagan dates...Rush Limbaugh. Anderson Cooper seems to lean left personally, but not exceptionally so on air. CNN is run by news people. Fox is run by a Republican political consultant without training in journalism. He did talk shows, theatrical performances and political campaigns, not news. They are not polar opposites. Fox was founded to have a particular agenda, which is why Ailes was chosen to run it. Imagine James Carville being chosen to run a "news network." That would be the opposite of Fox. CNN may have leaned more left when Ted was in charge of it, but now it mostly just blows, period.

All the cable news channels were cheerleaders for the Iraq war at the beginning. No one wanted to be seen as anti-patriotic. The strongest opponent was Phil Donahue, who got canned even though he had better ratings than some who were retained, but he was no Dem-- rather a Naderite.

[Auburn85 413]

I can see why FOX is considered the most biased, because they are the most popular

So just because the owner is an outspoken Republican, you come to the conclusion that his news organization is the most biased?

I consider FOX to be fairer, but not the end all be all

[Auburn85 413]

Heck, O Reilly felt that Phil shouldn't have been canned

[TexasTiger 10,991]

I can see why FOX is considered the most biased, because they are the most popular

So just because the owner is an outspoken Republican, you come to the conclusion that his news organization is the most biased?

I consider FOX to be fairer, but not the end all be all

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Not just an "outspoken Republican", a life-long Republican political consultant without any training in the news business. Like I said, imagine if James Carville was chosen to run a news network-- how biased would you expect that network to be?

[Auburn85 413]

Heck, he was with the Kerry campaign while still working at CNN

[TexasTiger 10,991]

Heck, he was with the Kerry campaign while still working at CNN

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An unpaid consultant working as the clearly identified left-winger arguing with Robert Novak on an annoying half-hour debate show in the afternoon. He wasn't running a thing or having any input into news reporting.

[Auburn85 413]

Some of the CBS crew was in contact constanly throughout the memo deal. I guess they were telling the Kerry people what they were going to run

Then the conclusion came that no political agenda was involved? But just that they wanted to cover the story first

At least people here were held responsible

Everyone with the exception of FOX has covered the war , at a majority negative basis.

As if we were losing the war

Yes, the war is not pretty ,but some good is going on, which they aren't covering near enough of

[mcgufcm 3,872]

if we wanna talk bias, cbs clearly takes the cake. i think tt, that you are right some and wrong some. obviously the man who runs fox is a homer, but i think some of the employees are alright in that they want to be journalist. it is a right-leaning station without question (i really have a hard time seeing how that could be refuted but whatever), but not so much so that i would equate it with james carville.

you are correct is saying that all cable news sources are pretty crappy. it's an unfortunate fact that fox, cnn, msnbc, whoever just isn't very good at seperating their opinions from their reporting or reporting the news in general. and crossfire does in fact completely suck. it, along with hannity and colmes, the o'reilly factor, and anything espn produces may be the worst shows on television.

[TexasTiger 10,991]

if we wanna talk bias, cbs clearly takes the cake. i think tt, that you are right some and wrong some. obviously the man who runs fox is a homer, but i think some of the employees are alright in that they want to be journalist. it is a right-leaning station without question (i really have a hard time seeing how that could be refuted but whatever), but not so much so that i would equate it with james carville.

you are correct is saying that all cable news sources are pretty crappy. it's an unfortunate fact that fox, cnn, msnbc, whoever just isn't very good at seperating their opinions from their reporting or reporting the news in general. and crossfire does in fact completely suck. it, along with hannity and colmes, the o'reilly factor, and anything espn produces may be the worst shows on television.

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I didn't equate Fox with Carville, per se. I said the guy running Fox is from the same profession and is just as partisan. I'm sure Carville would hire some real journalists who would do a decent job, too, but the network would almost certainly show his bias and people would expect it too. Ailes is less well known in general circles, but at least as successful, if not moreso, than Carville as a political consultant.

Any network that carried more than two minutes a day on the Peterson trial sucks-- and that's all of the cable news networks.

[Piglet 0]

There ain't no such thing as fair and balanced news. They all got an agenda, and it isn't even always "liberal" or "conservative", so much as a bias in favor of whatever benefits their corporate owners and sponsors. You ever see NBC News expose defects in a product made by General Electric? You ever see Time pan a movie made by Warner Brothers? Didn't think so.

If you really want the truth, you're better off paying attention to the extremists on both sides. Rush will tell you everything that's good aout his side and bad about the liberals, and Molly Ivins will tell you everything good about her side and bad about the right wing, and between them you'll find the truth somewhere. Anyone who claims to just be giving you the facts, that's when you gotta hold on to your wallet and walk away slow.

[Auburn85 413]

What O Reilly disagrees with what Bush is doing about illegal aliens?

Gosh, someone hurry up and tell him that he is not supposed to do that. I mean he works for Fox News ,come on!