Apparently, Right Wing Terrorism Is Not All That Notable

[homersapien 10,932]

Can you imagine the coverage had this been done by an Islamist?  

And it was done to a member of our military, no less. 

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/black-cadet-stabbed-death-member-racist-alt-reich-nation-facebook-group

Black Cadet Stabbed to Death by Member of Racist 'Alt-Reich Nation' Facebook Group

Authorities who reviewed videotape of the incident described the attack as unprovoked.

[AUFAN78 3,780]

6 hours ago, homersapien said:

Can you imagine the coverage had this been done by an Islamist?  

And it was done to a member of our military, no less. 

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/black-cadet-stabbed-death-member-racist-alt-reich-nation-facebook-group

Black Cadet Stabbed to Death by Member of Racist 'Alt-Reich Nation' Facebook Group

Authorities who reviewed videotape of the incident described the attack as unprovoked.

Sad. Hope the POS gets a quick death penalty.

[SaltyTiger 7,341]

8 hours ago, homersapien said:

Can you imagine the coverage had this been done by an Islamist?

And it was done to a member of our military, no less.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/black-cadet-stabbed-death-member-racist-alt-reich-nation-facebook-group

Black Cadet Stabbed to Death by Member of Racist 'Alt-Reich Nation' Facebook Group

Authorities who reviewed videotape of the incident described the attack as unprovoked.

Horrible but has this idiot group declared Jihad? Sawing heads off routinely and posting on social media? What is your point Homie? Press mistreating Radical Islamist? 

Perhaps all in national security are to busy tracking the real danger to the population rather than a couple of hundred deranged  morons. Sad

[homersapien 10,932]

13 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

Horrible but has this idiot group declared Jihad? Sawing heads off routinely and posting on social media? What is your point Homie? Press mistreating Radical Islamist? 

Perhaps all in national security are to busy tracking the real danger to the population rather than a couple of hundred deranged  morons. Sad

That's about as stupid of a response as I could imagine, and the "likes" list only certifies it.

But it does make my point nicely, thank you.

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Here you are talking about a lone racist drunkard stabbing somebody, while you (and no one else) has said a thing on this forum about an Islamic terrorist killing 20 children in England last night.

Nothing to see there.  Islam is a religion of peace, right?

[homersapien 10,932]

11 minutes ago, AcUmen said:

Here you are talking about a lone racist drunkard stabbing somebody, while you (and no one else) has said a thing on this forum about an Islamic terrorist killing 20 children in England last night.

Nothing to see there.  Islam is a religion of peace, right?

Truly stupid post.  You are a fool if you mean it.

[AcUmen 240]

1 minute ago, homersapien said:

Truly stupid post.  You are a fool if you mean it.

Is that all you got?  

[homersapien 10,932]

10 hours ago, AcUmen said:

Is that all you got?  

It's all I need.

You - and Salty - are arguing that a white racist who stabbed a member of our armed forces simply because he was black cannot be considered a terrorist because:

1. He isn't linked to Islamist terrorists who cut the heads off people. 

2. The murderer didn't plant a bomb that killed dozens, he only killed one man

And now you come up with the piece de resistance:  I am disregarding Islamist terrorism because I just happened to post an article on an American racial terrorist act instead of the Manchester bombing.

You are a pathetic fool who insults the intelligence of everyone on this forum by just posting.

[AcUmen 240]

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You - and Salty - are arguing that a white racist who stabbed a member of our armed forces simply because he was black cannot be considered a terrorist because:

I didn't say he was or wasn't a terrorist.  From my cursory reading of the story, it seems like he was a drunk retard who attacked a man for being black.  There appears to be no terrorist organization behind his actions or any real political ideology involved.  (If you want to consider racism a "political" ideology, fine, I wont argue).

Islamic terrorists on the other hand, do have a political and religious ideology (kill or convert all infidels and impose the caliphate on the West), which makes them a real terrorist threat by the definition of the word.  They also have nation state actors funding and coordinating their actions, whereas no racist group does.  Indeed, there are dozens of little racist groups out there that don't appear to agree on anything other than that they are racists.  

Besides, attacks by white racists are so rare as to be insignificant.  There are more faked "hate crimes" than real ones.  For instance, the guy calling in threats to Jewish community centers a while back (the case where Trump himself was forced to speak out) was a black liberal.  Remember that one?  After it was revealed he was a black liberal who was a leftist blogger, the MSM dropped the story like a hot potato; they were so let down that it wasn't a white Trump supporter from Mississippi.

At about the same time, there was another guy out there calling in racist threats to airports, police stations and other institutions around the world.  Guess who that turned out to be?  A white racist from Texas right?  Wrong.  He was an 18 year old Israeli teenager (who was himself a Jew) that was caught with child porn and had been extorting and blackmailing U.S. officials.

 

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28 minutes ago, AcUmen said:

I didn't say he was or wasn't a terrorist.  From my cursory reading of the story, it seems like he was a drunk retard who attacked a man for being black.  There appears to be no terrorist organization behind his actions or any real political ideology involved.  (If you want to consider racism a "political" ideology, fine, I wont argue).

Islamic terrorists on the other hand, do have a political and religious ideology (kill or convert all infidels and impose the caliphate on the West), which makes them a real terrorist threat by the definition of the word.  They also have nation state actors funding and coordinating their actions, whereas no racist group does.  Indeed, there are dozens of little racist groups out there that don't appear to agree on anything other than that they are racists.  

Besides, attacks by white racists are so rare as to be insignificant.  There are more faked "hate crimes" than real ones.  For instance, the guy calling in threats to Jewish community centers a while back (the case where Trump himself was forced to speak out) was a black liberal.  Remember that one?  After it was revealed he was a black liberal who was a leftist blogger, the MSM dropped the story like a hot potato; they were so let down that it wasn't a white Trump supporter from Mississippi.

At about the same time, there was another guy out there calling in racist threats to airports, police stations and other institutions around the world.  Guess who that turned out to be?  A white racist from Texas right?  Wrong.  He was an 18 year old Israeli teenager (who was himself a Jew) that was caught with child porn and had been extorting and blackmailing U.S. officials.

 

First, you need to study up on the term "terrorism".  You are obviously confused about what it really means.  It's not necessarily dependant on organizational size or quality or on any particular religious or racial/xenophobic obsession.

Secondly, homegrown terrorism is certainly not insignificant.  Just the opposite:

Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11

 .....Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, including the recent mass killing in Charleston, S.C., compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center....

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?_r=0

Thirdly, my article was about the problem we have with recognizing homegrown terrorism and to contrast the rationality of that with the relative obsession we have with Islamist terrorism 

But thanks to you and Salty, my point is being made even more effectively than I could make it by your efforts to minimize this hate crime by comparing it to Daesh and the like.  (Try telling that to the family of 2nd Lieutenant Collins)

So thanks for assistance.  You have both been very useful fools.

[SaltyTiger 7,341]

1 hour ago, homersapien said:

First, you need to study up on the term "terrorism".  You are obviously confused about what it really means.  It's not necessarily dependant on organizational size or quality or on any particular religious or racial/xenophobic obsession.

Secondly, homegrown terrorism is certainly not insignificant.  Just the opposite:

Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11

 .....Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, including the recent mass killing in Charleston, S.C., compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center....

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?_r=0

Thirdly, my article was about the problem we have with recognizing homegrown terrorism and to contrast the rationality of that with the relative obsession we have with Islamist terrorism 

But thanks to you and Salty, my point is being made even more effectively than I could make it by your efforts to minimize this hate crime by comparing it to Daesh and the like.  (Try telling that to the family of 2nd Lieutenant Collins)

So thanks for assistance.  You have both been very useful fools.

The numbers are debatable and why should 911 be a starting gate to recognize the numbers.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/08/17/fact-check-islamic-terrorists-have-killed-more-in-domestic-attacks-since-911-than-the-right-wing/ 

Brother Homer no one is trying to minimize anything.Those are your words and thoughts.I have no problem going after "homegrown terrorist" but we better have an obsession with Radical Islamist.  

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1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said:

The numbers are debatable and why should 911 be a starting gate to recognize the numbers.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/08/17/fact-check-islamic-terrorists-have-killed-more-in-domestic-attacks-since-911-than-the-right-wing/ 

Brother Homer no one is trying to minimize anything.Those are your words and thoughts.I have no problem going after "homegrown terrorist" but we better have an obsession with Radical Islamist.  

[augolf1716 20,229]

56 minutes ago, AUUSN said:

Looks like a bammer fan

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4 hours ago, AUUSN said:

Brilliant. You should send that to the parents of Saffie Rose.

[Mims44 1,639]

What a s***ty story, thanks for bringing my day down Homie...

And people wonder how I can be for the death penalty, just wish it didn't take so long to execute.

[ArgoEagle 1,591]

16 hours ago, augolf1716 said:

Looks like a bammer fan

Did you date her for a while golf?