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Dated July 1, 2004

Richardson: Auburn overhaul not finished

AUBURN (AP) — Ed Richardson's overhaul of Auburn's athletic department isn't over yet — even with three new head coaches and a pending change at the top.

The university's interim president promised further changes to the administrative hierarchy in the coming weeks.

"I'm trying to build a core team where people are fully employed, they're in the right spot and they're doing what they're supposed to do," Richardson said Tuesday after introducing new baseball coach Tom Slater.

He also said he hopes to finish reorganizing his administrative staff in the next few weeks. The changes go beyond personnel moves.

Hal Baird, athletic assistant to the president, has been working on a plan to restructure the athletic department for months. He and Richardson already have hired new coaches in baseball and men's and women's basketball.

"You've got to make sure someone has a full-time job — I mean every single day, not three days a week," Richardson said.

"We're going to have a very responsive, lean athletic administration."

He did not specify the changes, but said the athletic department staff would not be cut as much as he initially thought.

"We want to make sure first that you have a full-time job," Richardson said. "If you have a full-time job, that's good. If you don't, we're going to pay you half time.

"The third group is people who are not productive. Those are the ones who probably won't be able to stay."

Richardson said he hoped Baird would consider succeeding athletic director David Housel, who is set to retire in January.

"That's more Hal's call," Richardson said.

Baird, who has talked of retiring, said he would "welcome some time to think about Auburn's future and mine, but I still think we're a ways away from that."

Soon after being hired..........From Anniston Star

As for restructuring the department, Jacobs declined to discuss specific areas of concern at this time. As of the middle of this month, he said he was about a month away from making moves.

He wants to conclude his meetings with coaches first.

"I wanted to hear from those people before I made any final decisions on things, because those are the people that will be impacted, particularly when it comes to support staff," he said. "Within the next month or so, I hope to have everybody settled, knowing what they're doing, and evaluation process in place and rock and roll.

"Like I said now, we're in pretty good shape. We've got a great athletics department. It's just that I've got to get certain people in certain areas to help me out in my role.

"I'm a different personality. My leadership style is different, just like it would be with anybody, but I've got to get certain people in roles to make up for deficits in certain areas."

[AURainman 6]

Establishing a time table here.

Richardson calls for major Athletic Dept. Overhaul

Jay Jacobs is hired

Department is trimmed down

People get mad

Larkin said he initially figured the layoffs were at least partially because of budgetary concerns.

He said that idea dissipated quickly while talking with Jacobs last week.

"He said: 'No. Athletics has lots of money.' He's right," Larkin said. "When we added everything up as to why this decision was made, it did not speak to legitimacy. There were some other things that had to be going on in order for this decision to be made."

This particular timeline doesn't clear anyone of racially motivated firings, but it does imply that this WASN'T the actions of one lone Racist man.

It definitely implies that the Athletic Dept. was in need of some drastic changes. Which pretty much cuts Danley and friends' legs right out from under them.

I personally object to the idea that you cannot trim back salaries or positions for the sake of running more efficiently. Its not the amount of money you CAN spend, its the amount of money your WILLING to spend. Obviously, from previous statements, budget cuts WERE coming from the Athletic Dept.

[au - ike 0]

If AU wanted to "trim the fat" from the athletic department, why didn't they include Wayne Hall? He hasn't coached in a decade, why is he still receiving a rather large salary from AU? And dare shall I say, Pat Dye, isn't he still on payroll.

I am not saying firing Danley and Jurich was a wrong or right decision, but the way Jacobs has handled it has been awful! and an embarassment. And top it all off with Western Kentucky.

Establishing a time table here.

Richardson calls for major Athletic Dept. Overhaul

Jay Jacobs is hired

Department is trimmed down

People get mad

Larkin said he initially figured the layoffs were at least partially because of budgetary concerns.

He said that idea dissipated quickly while talking with Jacobs last week.

"He said: 'No. Athletics has lots of money.' He's right," Larkin said. "When we added everything up as to why this decision was made, it did not speak to legitimacy. There were some other things that had to be going on in order for this decision to be made."

This particular timeline doesn't clear anyone of racially motivated firings, but it does imply that this WASN'T the actions of one lone Racist man.

It definitely implies that the Athletic Dept. was in need of some drastic changes. Which pretty much cuts Danley and friends' legs right out from under them.

I personally object to the idea that you cannot trim back salaries or positions for the sake of running more efficiently. Its not the amount of money you CAN spend, its the amount of money your WILLING to spend. Obviously, from previous statements, budget cuts WERE coming from the Athletic Dept.

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[moe 0]

You called into sports call yesterday, didn't you?

If AU wanted to "trim the fat" from the athletic department, why didn't they include Wayne Hall?  He hasn't coached in a decade, why is he still receiving a rather large salary from AU?  And dare shall I say, Pat Dye, isn't he still on payroll. 

I am not saying firing Danley and Jurich was a wrong or right decision, but the way Jacobs has handled it has been awful! and an embarassment.    And top it all off with Western Kentucky.

Establishing a time table here.

Richardson calls for major Athletic Dept. Overhaul

Jay Jacobs is hired

Department is trimmed down

People get mad

Larkin said he initially figured the layoffs were at least partially because of budgetary concerns.

He said that idea dissipated quickly while talking with Jacobs last week.

"He said: 'No. Athletics has lots of money.' He's right," Larkin said. "When we added everything up as to why this decision was made, it did not speak to legitimacy. There were some other things that had to be going on in order for this decision to be made."

This particular timeline doesn't clear anyone of racially motivated firings, but it does imply that this WASN'T the actions of one lone Racist man.

It definitely implies that the Athletic Dept. was in need of some drastic changes. Which pretty much cuts Danley and friends' legs right out from under them.

I personally object to the idea that you cannot trim back salaries or positions for the sake of running more efficiently. Its not the amount of money you CAN spend, its the amount of money your WILLING to spend. Obviously, from previous statements, budget cuts WERE coming from the Athletic Dept.

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[au - ike 0]

No that wasn't me. What was said?

You called into sports call yesterday, didn't you?

If AU wanted to "trim the fat" from the athletic department, why didn't they include Wayne Hall?  He hasn't coached in a decade, why is he still receiving a rather large salary from AU?  And dare shall I say, Pat Dye, isn't he still on payroll. 

I am not saying firing Danley and Jurich was a wrong or right decision, but the way Jacobs has handled it has been awful! and an embarassment.    And top it all off with Western Kentucky.

Establishing a time table here.

Richardson calls for major Athletic Dept. Overhaul

Jay Jacobs is hired

Department is trimmed down

People get mad

Larkin said he initially figured the layoffs were at least partially because of budgetary concerns.

He said that idea dissipated quickly while talking with Jacobs last week.

"He said: 'No. Athletics has lots of money.' He's right," Larkin said. "When we added everything up as to why this decision was made, it did not speak to legitimacy. There were some other things that had to be going on in order for this decision to be made."

This particular timeline doesn't clear anyone of racially motivated firings, but it does imply that this WASN'T the actions of one lone Racist man.

It definitely implies that the Athletic Dept. was in need of some drastic changes. Which pretty much cuts Danley and friends' legs right out from under them.

I personally object to the idea that you cannot trim back salaries or positions for the sake of running more efficiently. Its not the amount of money you CAN spend, its the amount of money your WILLING to spend. Obviously, from previous statements, budget cuts WERE coming from the Athletic Dept.

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[WarTim 3,293]

Hmmmm.... Looks like JJ was simply running his department and making decisions.

Nothing wrong with that!

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

If AU wanted to "trim the fat" from the athletic department, why didn't they include Wayne Hall?  He hasn't coached in a decade, why is he still receiving a rather large salary from AU?  And dare shall I say, Pat Dye, isn't he still on payroll. 

I am not saying firing Danley and Jurich was a wrong or right decision, but the way Jacobs has handled it has been awful! and an embarassment.    And top it all off with Western Kentucky.

Dye and Hall work primarily in a fund raising capacity and they bring it a lot more $$ than they get paid.

[jaydubb121 22]

I thought that Coach Hall and Coach Dye were some sort of assistants to the President and not really on the payroll of the Athletic Department.

[mcgufcm 3,872]

regardless of what capacity dye and hall currently work for the athletic department, if you want a "lean and responsive" department, you won't have highly paid guys like that who don't work full-time jobs.

also, jacobs has done such a brilliant job of making this bigger than it had to be. here's how:

"the controversy could have been avoided had Jacobs discussed his ideas with the Office of Multicultural Affairs and Diversity before making a final decision. Grenell suggested that such a move is common procedure on campus, though Jacobs said he isn't aware of such a provision."

first, know your work culture and how to avoid controversy. idiot.

"both Grenell and university senate chairman Willie Larkin spoke with Jacobs in separate conversations.

They pushed Jacobs for more specific reasons for the dismissals.

None were given."

second, be prepared to explain your motives, pre-emptively to the people you are firing and retrospectively to people who will question your decisions. it's just doing your homework.

third, find ways to keep your staff intact if at all possible. demote people instead of firing. if money's not an issue ("No. Athletics has lots of money.") then allow long time employees to keep similar pay levels without similar job titles. move them around the organization and fire people in less public positions.

if you want an sterling example of a guy who knows how to appease people, just look over at the football team. tommy tuberville demoted two guys in high profile positions, shuffled one into a new position (that didn't exist before as a full-paid position), and canned another guy at a lower profile job while making sure he had a place to go when it was done. that's how you run a business in the public sector. jacobs is just too incompetent to do it.

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Dated July 1, 2004

Richardson: Auburn overhaul not finished

AUBURN (AP) — Ed Richardson's overhaul of Auburn's athletic department isn't over yet — even with three new head coaches and a pending change at the top.

The university's interim president promised further changes to the administrative hierarchy in the coming weeks.

"I'm trying to build a core team where people are fully employed, they're in the right spot and they're doing what they're supposed to do," Richardson said Tuesday after introducing new baseball coach Tom Slater.

He also said he hopes to finish reorganizing his administrative staff in the next few weeks. The changes go beyond personnel moves.

Hal Baird, athletic assistant to the president, has been working on a plan to restructure the athletic department for months. He and Richardson already have hired new coaches in baseball and men's and women's basketball.

"You've got to make sure someone has a full-time job — I mean every single day, not three days a week," Richardson said.

"We're going to have a very responsive, lean athletic administration."

He did not specify the changes, but said the athletic department staff would not be cut as much as he initially thought.

"We want to make sure first that you have a full-time job," Richardson said. "If you have a full-time job, that's good. If you don't, we're going to pay you half time.

"The third group is people who are not productive. Those are the ones who probably won't be able to stay."

Richardson said he hoped Baird would consider succeeding athletic director David Housel, who is set to retire in January.

"That's more Hal's call," Richardson said.

Baird, who has talked of retiring, said he would "welcome some time to think about Auburn's future and mine, but I still think we're a ways away from that."

Soon after being hired..........From Anniston Star

As for restructuring the department, Jacobs declined to discuss specific areas of concern at this time. As of the middle of this month, he said he was about a month away from making moves.

He wants to conclude his meetings with coaches first.

"I wanted to hear from those people before I made any final decisions on things, because those are the people that will be impacted, particularly when it comes to support staff," he said. "Within the next month or so, I hope to have everybody settled, knowing what they're doing, and evaluation process in place and rock and roll.

"Like I said now, we're in pretty good shape. We've got a great athletics department. It's just that I've got to get certain people in certain areas to help me out in my role.

"I'm a different personality. My leadership style is different, just like it would be with anybody, but I've got to get certain people in roles to make up for deficits in certain areas."

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They should have seen this coming. People black or white should have heard that they were doing serious reorganization.

Someone should splatter this on the tv.

[WarEagleFL 0]

if you want an sterling example of a guy who knows how to appease people, just look over at the football team. tommy tuberville demoted two guys in high profile positions, shuffled one into a new position (that didn't exist before as a full-paid position), and canned another guy at a lower profile job while making sure he had a place to go when it was done. that's how you run a business in the public sector. jacobs is just too incompetent to do it.

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personally i'm gonna reserve judgement on the whole jacobs thing until more information is out there, but you gave a great example of a man who knows how to run things in a manner that isn't going to step on any toes. he takes care of the people who work for/with him, too bad the others can't learn from this great man.

[vatz22au 117]

if you want an sterling example of a guy who knows how to appease people, just look over at the football team. tommy tuberville demoted two guys in high profile positions, shuffled one into a new position (that didn't exist before as a full-paid position), and canned another guy at a lower profile job while making sure he had a place to go when it was done. that's how you run a business in the public sector. jacobs is just too incompetent to do it.

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personally i'm gonna reserve judgement on the whole jacobs thing until more information is out there, but you gave a great example of a man who knows how to run things in a manner that isn't going to step on any toes. he takes care of the people who work for/with him, too bad the others can't learn from this great man.

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Ya...too bad hes a damn football coach and the other guy we are speaking about is an athletic director.....

Funny....a year ago people wouldnt be close to calling tuberville a great man...you know, moving Nall to O.C. and all....wise move right?

*sigh

[WarEagleFL 0]

i dont think there is one person in this world who has never made a mistake. tommy made some, he seems to have learned from them. i think he is a great man and represents the university very well.

i was just trying to bring something positive to the discussion, my bad.

[vatz22au 117]

i dont think there is one person in this world who has never made a mistake. tommy made some, he seems to have learned from them. i think he is a great man and represents the university very well.

i was just trying to bring something positive to the discussion, my bad.

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Your right...he is a great man...but that wasnt my point.

If everyone listened to what you said, they would respect Jacobs and let him learn and build Auburn's Athletic department to something great.

You can all agree with my comment on no one would call Tuberville a great man last year...It was amazing reading some of the things y'all said.

Here we go with jacobs...yay

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Dated July 1, 2004

Richardson: Auburn overhaul not finished

AUBURN (AP) — Ed Richardson's overhaul of Auburn's athletic department isn't over yet — even with three new head coaches and a pending change at the top.

The university's interim president promised further changes to the administrative hierarchy in the coming weeks.

"I'm trying to build a core team where people are fully employed, they're in the right spot and they're doing what they're supposed to do," Richardson said Tuesday after introducing new baseball coach Tom Slater.

He also said he hopes to finish reorganizing his administrative staff in the next few weeks. The changes go beyond personnel moves.

Hal Baird, athletic assistant to the president, has been working on a plan to restructure the athletic department for months. He and Richardson already have hired new coaches in baseball and men's and women's basketball.

"You've got to make sure someone has a full-time job — I mean every single day, not three days a week," Richardson said.

"We're going to have a very responsive, lean athletic administration."

He did not specify the changes, but said the athletic department staff would not be cut as much as he initially thought.

"We want to make sure first that you have a full-time job," Richardson said. "If you have a full-time job, that's good. If you don't, we're going to pay you half time.

"The third group is people who are not productive. Those are the ones who probably won't be able to stay."

Richardson said he hoped Baird would consider succeeding athletic director David Housel, who is set to retire in January.

"That's more Hal's call," Richardson said.

Baird, who has talked of retiring, said he would "welcome some time to think about Auburn's future and mine, but I still think we're a ways away from that."

Soon after being hired..........From Anniston Star

As for restructuring the department, Jacobs declined to discuss specific areas of concern at this time. As of the middle of this month, he said he was about a month away from making moves.

He wants to conclude his meetings with coaches first.

"I wanted to hear from those people before I made any final decisions on things, because those are the people that will be impacted, particularly when it comes to support staff," he said. "Within the next month or so, I hope to have everybody settled, knowing what they're doing, and evaluation process in place and rock and roll.

"Like I said now, we're in pretty good shape. We've got a great athletics department. It's just that I've got to get certain people in certain areas to help me out in my role.

"I'm a different personality. My leadership style is different, just like it would be with anybody, but I've got to get certain people in roles to make up for deficits in certain areas."

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Thanks for that info Rainman. Certainly adds some clarity to the situation. Now if someone could just print this in the mainstream media.

[AURainman 6]

regardless of what capacity dye and hall currently work for the athletic department, if you want a "lean and responsive" department, you won't have highly paid guys like that who don't work full-time jobs.

also, jacobs has done such a brilliant job of making this bigger than it had to be. here's how:

"the controversy could have been avoided had Jacobs discussed his ideas with the Office of Multicultural Affairs and Diversity before making a final decision. Grenell suggested that such a move is common procedure on campus, though Jacobs said he isn't aware of such a provision."

first, know your work culture and how to avoid controversy. idiot.

"both Grenell and university senate chairman Willie Larkin spoke with Jacobs in separate conversations.

They pushed Jacobs for more specific reasons for the dismissals.

None were given."

second, be prepared to explain your motives, pre-emptively to the people you are firing and retrospectively to people who will question your decisions. it's just doing your homework.

third, find ways to keep your staff intact if at all possible. demote people instead of firing. if money's not an issue ("No. Athletics has lots of money.") then allow long time employees to keep similar pay levels without similar job titles. move them around the organization and fire people in less public positions.

if you want an sterling example of a guy who knows how to appease people, just look over at the football team. tommy tuberville demoted two guys in high profile positions, shuffled one into a new position (that didn't exist before as a full-paid position), and canned another guy at a lower profile job while making sure he had a place to go when it was done. that's how you run a business in the public sector. jacobs is just too incompetent to do it.

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I object with everything you are saying.

First, let me state, I don't know what the real reason is for firing them. I can only assume one of the things I have heard is true. I tend to err on the side of reason and believe it wasn't racially motivated.

1. What if he NEVER thought that this would be a Diversity related issue. 2 Black Men fired......2 Black Men hired. While that is a ****ty way to look at the world, it makes GREAT sense from a Diversity perspective. 2 + (-2). Why would Jacobs use this channel UNLESS he was racially motivated?

2. What if he DID explain his motives. He is trimming the fat. He's said it before that he wants the department to run more effeciently. If that IS his motive, what MORE can he say to appease the mob with the pitchforks? His best protocol against his attackers is "No Comment, I've said my peace."

3. Where does "trimming the fat" include the fact that Athletics has money. The fact that Athletics has money doesn't mean that they aren't allowed to cut a job or two. Let me explain business.

REVENUE-COST=PROFIT

REVENUE-lesscost=MORE PROFIT

The fact that they've got money prevents them from firing anyone? Please.

4. Incompetent. This spoken from a man that can hide behind a computer screen. I'm sure you'd like to meet the man face to face and tell him that. You are using some HARSH words here. You'd better be sure you're not left with the ugly girl in the morning.

[Auburn85 415]

The firings couldn't have been because of financial problems. Isn't Auburn Athletic budget like $40+ million?

[mcgufcm 3,872]

thanks for the economics lesson. never could've figured that out.

i'd love to tell jay jacobs what i think of him. i actually wrote him to point out a lot of the stuff i've said on here. i even have my number here in auburn in the email. odds on him meeting me, calling me, or even reading what i wrote: slim to none. at this point in time, i'm not in a position to be heard by a man in that office. hopefully, i'll change that in the future; time's on my side.

the quote about athletics having lots of money is from jacobs. not me. he all but said the firings had nothing to do with economics (although if you sent him your equation, maybe that'd open his eyes). we gave the men who got promoted raises so that motive is out the window.

and i personally find jacobs' unpreparedness and equal to incompetence. can he learn from his mistakes? absolutely. someone pointed out that tubby has learned from his and that's completely true, but did we really have to have a guy learn on the job? what would investors say if coca-cola had a guy making mistakes early, then the only explanation they got was that "he's learning from his mistakes"? they'd be pissed. and rightly so. you learn as an assistant AD. you learn at little schools with less publicity and smaller budgets. you don't usually get to learn on the job at multi-million dollar businesses.

[tiger88 934]

mcguf,

Yeah, the athletic dept. has plenty of money. We should keep on a much larger staff than necessary to appease everyone and eat up all the excess. Sounds like the mentality of a bunch of politicians holding a wad of tax dollars.

This whole thing makes me wanna puke. Yeah jacobs could've handled it better, who knows. The fact is that in july the warning was sent out that cuts were coming. We were on our way to a lean mean athletic dept. IF THEY HAD FIRED ALL WHITE PEOPLE IT WOULDA MADE THE PAPER FOR ONE FREAKING DAY! Black people break even , according to grenell, but didn't gain anything so a travesty has been committed.

Let me ask you this. If 1 black guy, and 1 white guy were fired and two black guys were promoted, would that be okay? Or, would it have to be 0 blacks fired, 2 or three white guys fired and 2 black guys promoted to make these idiot black "leaders" on campus happy.

Let me adress this one to you mcguf, which one of those scenario's would make you happy?

The sad thing is that sometimes people are treated unfairly and deserve justice. Cases like these dull everyones senses and the next legitimate case is that much more likely to be met with deaf ears. You can only cry wolf so many times.

[mcgufcm 3,872]

honestly what would've made me happy? don't fire two of the three black adminstrators in the department. i understand wanting to restructure. then restructure... don't tear the whole damn thing down. what's that old saying... if it ain't broke, don't fix it? the au athletic department has a huge budget and has operated well economically over the last few years. we have the best football team in the nation. we have a basketball team on the uptick. we have a baseball team that's been solid for decades. we have the premier swimming team in the nation (guys and girls). we have a track team that was runner up for the national title a year ago. we have a solid golf team. why exactly did we need radical changes?

i was under the impression that changes needed to made from walker and housel to a new president and a new ad to get people in that would exhibit autonomy in running the school. there were some tough decisions to make on coaching changes. we made those choices, and we've gotten off of academic probation. why change more when you finally had everything going in the right direction? it just doesn't make sense. at all. and this decision shows far from autonomy; it reeked of being a lackey. the pres says we want to make changes, he hires you, and you immediately do what he says? sooooo, why are you in charge? why not just have ed do this himself?

i also wouldn't have cared as much if jacobs had presented this better. he stuttered through the announcement, and he's really looked awful publically. then it comes out that he didn't follow protocol about firing minority workers, and he can't give a reason beyond restructuring for the firings? it just wasn't handled well at all. and that makes me mad.

those are the things that really bother me. it's not the race (although i think it would do auburn good to become MORE diverse which this didn't accomplish). it's everything about the situation.

[tiger88 934]

Exactly what evidence has been presented that race had anything to do with the firings?

The only way to fire a black person is to have hired one. Is that what AU does? Hires black people for a temporary hoorah, then lets them go so all hell can break loose.

[mcgufcm 3,872]

so do you disagree with me? do you think the athletic department was in shambles (sp?) and needed wholesale change like this (and firing 3 high ranking adminstrators is wholesale change)? do you think jacobs handled the situation well? do you feel like this decision was all jay jacobs or was he told to do it? do you think everything was done to erase racial or revenge-based complaints that could've been done? are you happy with the way this has gone?

[tiger88 934]

so do you disagree with me? do you think the athletic department was in shambles (sp?) and needed wholesale change like this (and firing 3 high ranking adminstrators is wholesale change)? do you think jacobs handled the situation well? do you feel like this decision was all jay jacobs or was he told to do it? do you think everything was done to erase racial or revenge-based complaints that could've been done? are you happy with the way this has gone?

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The fact that the athletic dept was not in shambles is irrelevant. If they were top heavy there is nothing wrong with cutting some fat out. Sounds like you are saying that the athletic dept had extra money so they should keep on unnecessary employees to eat up the excesses as much as possible. Why not be lean and mean like Richardson suggested and find other uses for the money? One thing that I have not heard even hinted at is that the athletic dept. is now short of manpower to get the job done. I haven't heard that anywhere at all.

Could jacobs have handled it better, yes. Am I upset that he didn't handle it better. If so it is only because certain pepole are trying to raise a stink over nothing. That's not his fault.

Racial complaints. I don't feel like jj should have to consult with any racial org.'s on campus to ok his hirings and firings. That's just me. If he had I don't think this dimwit grenell would've been any happier, I have little doubt about that. He mighta tried to strong arm jj into not firing tham and I don't think it woulda worked.

I don't have a freaking clue if it was all jj decision or not. I think he had the final say but who the hell knows. I don't think you do.

Am I happy with this. No, not so much because of jj, but more so because I feel as though a motherfreaking mountain is being made out of a pothole by some idiotic "leaders" on campus.

[mcgufcm 3,872]

why is one administrator (grenell) a "dimwit" if you disagree with him, but other people are "making a mountain out of a pothole" when they question a guy you like (jacobs)?

[AURainman 6]

thanks for the economics lesson. never could've figured that out.

No problem. Class is MWF 2-3PM.

i'd love to tell jay jacobs what i think of him. i actually wrote him to point out a lot of the stuff i've said on here. i even have my number here in auburn in the email. odds on him meeting me, calling me, or even reading what i wrote: slim to none. at this point in time, i'm not in a position to be heard by a man in that office. hopefully, i'll change that in the future; time's on my side..

Kudos to you for stepping up to the plate and facing him like a man. No, I don't think you'll get a response, because Jacobs BEST line of defense is to just say no comment and roll along.

the quote about athletics having lots of money is from jacobs. not me. he all but said the firings had nothing to do with economics (although if you sent him your equation, maybe that'd open his eyes). we gave the men who got promoted raises so that motive is out the window..

Actually, the quote about Athletics is second-hand from Mr. Grennell himself. I have yet to hear Jay Jacobs say, "It wasn't about the money." Grennell COULDN'T be misquoting Jay Jacobs at all, could he? I'm sure he quoted Jacobs verbatim. For a man who wants to find a conspiracy against black administrators, I'm surprised you turn a blind eye to the accusers claims and accept THEM as pure fact.

and i personally find jacobs' unpreparedness and equal to incompetence. can he learn from his mistakes? absolutely. someone pointed out that tubby has learned from his and that's completely true, but did we really have to have a guy learn on the job? what would investors say if coca-cola had a guy making mistakes early, then the only explanation they got was that "he's learning from his mistakes"? they'd be pissed. and rightly so. you learn as an assistant AD. you learn at little schools with less publicity and smaller budgets. you don't usually get to learn on the job at multi-million dollar businesses.

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Personally, I think Jay Jacobs could've followed every protocol in the books, checked with every black man in Lee County, gotten approvals from Jesse Jackson AND Al Sharpton, and STILL the media would have had a field day with this.

Firings are ugly business. They always are. Jacobs has done what is necessary. Were there alterior motives? I don't know. I wouldn't rule out "revenge" from the lawsuit as the "straw that broke the camel's back." A name like Stacey Danley doesn't rise to the top of the cut-list very easily.

But, I feel 99% confident you can rule out RACE in this issue, yet THAT is the drum everyone is beating. (Yes, I realize that the lawsuit involved race.)