homersapien 10,932 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Interesting interview with a conservative columnist (for the National Review). It's a sad, non-partisan analysis of the current state of politics in America. https://www.vox.com/2017/7/13/15958230/donald-trump-jr-russia-collusion-republican-party-david-french David French on Trump, Russian collusion, and the future of the Republican Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,346 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Damn Republicans need to quit denying this collusion stuff. Everyone knows Jr. wanted to collude with that woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 4 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: Damn Republicans need to quit denying this collusion stuff. Everyone knows Jr. wanted to collude with that woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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homersapien 10,932 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 10 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: Damn Republicans need to quit denying this collusion stuff. Everyone knows Jr. wanted to collude with that woman. Did you read it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,346 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 7 hours ago, homersapien said: Did you read it? Although he never says it in the piece, French’s words are aimed squarely at conservative voters — and Republican politicians — who so far have turned a blind eye to the Trump administration’s lies and scandals. Yes sir. I read it. Do you think Jr. wanted to collude with that woman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 10,932 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 3 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: Although he never says it in the piece, French’s words are aimed squarely at conservative voters — and Republican politicians — who so far have turned a blind eye to the Trump administration’s lies and scandals. Yes sir. I read it. Do you think Jr. wanted to collude with that woman? I'd say that when he suggested timing the releases for late summer, he was colluding. Charles Krauthammer agrees: He added, “This was a bungled collusion. This was amateurish collusion. This was Keystone Kops collusion. But it doesn’t change the fact that it was attempted collusion and it undoes the White House story completely.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/charles-krauthammer-trump-jr-criticism_us_59682ff3e4b0d6341fe7cd09?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 I don't often agree with Krauthammer, but I totally respect his integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,639 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 16 hours ago, AUUSN said: That's actually an awesome picture... I need with one with Gus face tho.... for the lulz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 8,969 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Just now, Mims44 said: That's actually an awesome picture... I need with one with Gus face tho.... for the lulz. Jay Jacobs would be funnier imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,639 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Just now, ShocksMyBrain said: Jay Jacobs would be funnier imo. Hey now, I decide what posters to plaster all over my sanctuary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,346 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 42 minutes ago, homersapien said: I'd say that when he suggested timing the releases for late summer, he was colluding. Lock em up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 7,014 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 hour ago, homersapien said: I'd say that when he suggested timing the releases for late summer, he was colluding. Charles Krauthammer agrees: He added, “This was a bungled collusion. This was amateurish collusion. This was Keystone Kops collusion. But it doesn’t change the fact that it was attempted collusion and it undoes the White House story completely.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/charles-krauthammer-trump-jr-criticism_us_59682ff3e4b0d6341fe7cd09?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 I don't often agree with Krauthammer, but I totally respect his integrity. What is the penalty for Attempted Collusion? I looked on several lawyer help sites and they have definitions for collusion, but when I searched for Attempted Collusion all I got was Attempted Murder, Attempted Kidnappeing, etc. I must not have done a completes search. Can you help me out? From the article: Krauthammer said he didn’t believe Trump Jr. did anything illegal, but it was certainly unethical. Homey, did you read the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 10,932 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said: Lock em up. Collusion is not a criminal offense. The closest criminal charge would be conspiracy, but I doubt that could be applied to political advantage (as opposed to monetary advantage). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 10,932 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said: What is the penalty for Attempted Collusion? I looked on several lawyer help sites and they have definitions for collusion, but when I searched for Attempted Collusion all I got was Attempted Murder, Attempted Kidnappeing, etc. I must not have done a completes search. Can you help me out? From the article: Krauthammer said he didn’t believe Trump Jr. did anything illegal, but it was certainly unethical. Homey, did you read the article? No one said it was a criminal offense DA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArgoEagle 1,592 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 31 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said: What is the penalty for Attempted Collusion? I looked on several lawyer help sites and they have definitions for collusion, but when I searched for Attempted Collusion all I got was Attempted Murder, Attempted Kidnappeing, etc. I must not have done a completes search. Can you help me out? From the article: Krauthammer said he didn’t believe Trump Jr. did anything illegal, but it was certainly unethical. Homey, did you read the article? Did you see where Homer called you a District Attorney above this post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 7,014 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, homersapien said: No one said it was a criminal offense DA. Well Homey, you know a lot, but I am no District Attorney. If I was a District Attorney I wouldn't have to look up Collusion on a lawyer's website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 10,932 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 hour ago, I_M4_AU said: Well Homey, you know a lot, but I am no District Attorney. If I was a District Attorney I wouldn't have to look up Collusion on a lawyer's website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 10,932 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Oh, I get it now. (Little slow this evening.) In my use above, DA = Dumb Ass Does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 7,014 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 5 hours ago, homersapien said: Oh, I get it now. (Little slow this evening.) In my use, DA = Dumb Ass Does that help? I knew what you meant. I'm glad I don't take your insults personally, no matter how you meant them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 10,932 Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 44 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said: I knew what you meant. I'm glad I don't take your insults personally, no matter how you meant them. That's OK. I don't think of you as a real person in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 On 7/14/2017 at 0:24 PM, I_M4_AU said: What is the penalty for Attempted Collusion? I looked on several lawyer help sites and they have definitions for collusion, but when I searched for Attempted Collusion all I got was Attempted Murder, Attempted Kidnappeing, etc. I must not have done a completes search. Can you help me out? From the article: Krauthammer said he didn’t believe Trump Jr. did anything illegal, but it was certainly unethical. Homey, did you read the article? I'm certainly no lawyer but from what I understand there is an accessory after the fact law that might be the one that was broken. The fact that Jr. lied about the reason for the meeting and Kushner failed to disclose the meeting indicates attempts to hide the meeting. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 10,932 Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 This line of discussion about what collusion constitutes legally and what constitutes collusion, is about as relevant as the question of whether or not Bill had "sex with that woman". Ironically, sex between two consenting adults is not illegal either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,346 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 6 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: I'm certainly no lawyer Let us leave it at that Miss Elle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 10,932 Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: Let us leave it at that Miss Elle Weasel play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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