Yes there will be a battle for qb

[vatz22au 117]

"Yes, we do have a controversy going into our first spring practice of not knowing who our quarterback is going to be," Tuberville said. "We'll start out with Brandon Cox, who we know more about. Obviously, he's the heir apparent to Jason Campbell, but we're looking for somebody to lead this football team on and off the field, set a good example for our players and also be very consistent underneath the center."

Tuberville said backups Calvin Booker, Blake Field and Dusty Goodwin "have great possibilities."

"There's going to be a lot of competition," Tuberville added."

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Uh oh...looks like the "famed and glorious" Cox will have to compete for this...it wont be handed to him. If you ask me, the competition is only going to make all these qbs better...and I wouldnt be suprised if I saw a different face at qb under center when the season starts. Heres to you Mr. Booker.

[PowerI 0]

I hope Brandon lives up to our expectations of him, because I really think he could be something special.

[vatz22au 117]

I hope Brandon lives up to our expectations of him, because I really think he could be something special.

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Yep...but you also have to support any desicision that the coaches go with. For instance...if any of the qbs actually beat out Cox...I expect to hear for the coaches head.... Theres already been too much talk about Cox over nothing.

I hope whoever becomes qb becomes something special...I really do. I think this competition will only make all qbs better....and as auburn fans, we should embrace whoever wins the battle...because they would've won it fairly.

[WarTim 3,293]

Brandon Cox has TWO YEARS of practice on the Plain. THAT alone counts for a lot with any Coach at any position..

Add to that the fact that he has one hell of an arm and, well, I think there will be and should be competition at each and every position. BUT, the others will really have to shine to get ahead of Brandon. He is our future, and, Our future is in VERY good hands.

Good luck to all.

p.s. Where did this "famed and glorious" crap come from? I have heard or read NOTHING close to those words.

[AUHansel 0]

its cox's job to lose. I don't see either of the other QB's takin it from him.

[vatz22au 117]

Brandon Cox has TWO YEARS of practice on the Plain. THAT alone counts for a lot with any Coach at any position..

Add to that the fact that he has one hell of an arm and, well, I think there will be and should be competition at each and every position. BUT, the others will really have to shine to get ahead of Brandon. He is our future, and, Our future is in VERY good hands.

Good luck to all.

p.s. Where did this "famed and glorious" crap come from? I have heard or read NOTHING close to those words.

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lol dont worry Wartim ....Was not aiming that at anyone...just being sarcastic of the tone with Cox...thats all.

[SCWarEagle 4]

Hey. If someone can legitimately beat Cox out for that job, they deserve it and will have my full support, as will the coaches.

I know a lot about football, but I'm ready to admit that CTT and CAB might just know a little bit more. I will trust them.

[CCTAU 2,346]

Go back and watch all the games Cox played in. He shows a nice command of going through progressions to get to the correct guy. Sure he made a few bad passes this year, but most of the bad passes were his physical inability to make a good throw, not a bad read. You can always teach a guy to throw, but its much harder to teach a guy to read a defense. It took JC a lot of snaps to get it. I see Cox way ahead of the game. Do not confuse athletic ability with being a better QB. Its the guy that can pick apart the defense with his mind that will win more games and control the ball game. I believe that is what I see in BC.

[Erik81 0]

coach talk-

wishful thinking vatz22au

[vatz22au 117]

coach talk-

wishful thinking vatz22au

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lol dont know why you guys would even feel like you have to respond like that.....

Wishful thinking? The only wishful thinking I have is that the best qb comes out on top, no matter who it is. I dont hate cox, or anyone else on the team....I just want to see some good qb competition....its only gonna make them all that much better.

[JC Cool 0]

The real competition will be for 2nd string. 1st string is a lock for Brandon Cox.

[SCWarEagle 4]

Like I said, let the damn battle commence. Whoever wins will at least be a "good" QB.

And another thing about good QBs ... I remember a guy a few years ago who took a WHOLE lotta crap about being a bad QB ... including from people like me. And his name was Jason Campbell. Most of you gave him a ton of BS, too. As if it needs to be said, we were all wrong.

My point is that we really shouldn't be too quick to judge. This is the SEC, not the freaking Big 12. These KIDS have to GROW into a job. No one, not even the great David Green starts off on top of the world. (SL, just shut it. )

If we all hold BC or CB or anyone at all to JC's 2004 standard, I'll bet you we'll all be disappointed. Who, including JC's coach-of-a-daddy, could have EVER envisioned this kind of year for JC? No one. But yet, he'll go down in history as one of the greatest AU QBs of ALL TIME. No doubt whatsover.

I guess, in the end, my point is this ... whoever ends up being AU QB in 2005 ... the guy is really good. We are a program that has a certain level of expectation (especially now), and we're not going to have any average chump starting at QB for us. We have absolutely spectacular athletes playing football for us. Ask Reggie Brown or JaMarcus Russell or Danny Ainge's nephew or any other superstar that got in our way this year. Our boys come to play. All of them, every game.

In the end, whoever gets the nod at QB has earned it. All of our players are good. I'll be happy no matter what. This group of coaches has earned my nearly-unconditional support.

Thats my $0.02. War Damn Eagle!

[AUloggerhead 1,854]

All the QBs who show up this spring get a chance to compete for the starting job. Cox is a year older than the others and has more actual game experience, even if it was only mop up duty. Therefore, he's in the driver's seat. The others were all highly recruited. Where's the controversy in that? Just a few short seasons ago, our choices at QB were Daniel Cobb & an inexperienced Jason Campbell. By comparison, this spring we have an embarrassment of riches at the QB position.

[cadillacattack 0]

It is readily apparent, even to some in this thread, that Cox has been "ordained" as the starter due to his talent. Maybe, but I haven't seen it.

Not trying to be critical of Cox, just stating it like I saw it. Cox looked solid in last year's A-day game and I spoke with him at length following the game. He talked about getting into a good rhythm and he clearly was ..... against a handcuffed defense comprised primarily of our 2nd team D.

I was less than impressed with his performance during actual game snaps last season. Cox definitely struggled with the speed of live action, his footwork was inconsistent, and he had difficulty with the out-throws. Typical frosh performance. There might have been good reasons for it, but I noticed that he wasn't put in situations that called for the deep-out (things that make you go "Hmmmmm") Makes me question whether the arm-strength is all that and a bag of chips. He did not look good by any stretch of the imagination during his live competition stints.

That being said, I have confidence that a full year under Borges will have significant results for Cox, and it is probably his job to lose. Booker is definitely capable of pushing Cox and he has a truly remarkable arm. Trust me, the deep-out will not be a problem for Booker. I love the fact that we have these guys around for several years to come. Let the competition begin and may the best young man win.

BTW, it wasn't "a lot of snaps" or Al Borges that allowed Jason Campbell to "get it" ..... it was having more time to go through the progressions, courtesy of an improved offensive line performance.

[The Prowler 1]

I think the fact that Cox has two years under his belt helps him Big Tyme........Also, Coach Borges' offense is similar to the one BC has run since he was a pup at Hewitt.........But, I'd watch out for Calvin Booker people has said that he's got the skills to be the next D. Craig. Only time will tell.

[AUesquire 1]

It's really tough to guage Cox's performance last year. I don't recall one play he ever ran with the first team. I would love to have seen him run a few series with CW and RB and all the first team receivers, not to mention the first team line blocking for him.

[BoJtrueAUman 4]

vat I think a lot of people are rooting for BC because of what he has been though and still stuck with his dream and Auburn. Thats one of the main reasons I am rooting for him, I hope he can be the QB he was touted to be out of high school. It's always good to see someone succeed that has really had it tough. I will support whoever wins the job but I hope it's BC. Plus he is really cute, lolol.

[Shug2003 1]

i agree with the post "that if we hold BC to Campbell's standards, then we will probably be disappointed. It's unreasonable to expect BC to storm on the scene with the savvy and poise that JC had as a Senior. Remember guys, when many of us were down on JC and questioned his ability, poise, and play calling? I do agree that BC has shown flashes of outstanding talent and will probably have the bonus of the same OC for more than a year which should make for a work in progress. However, he could surprise everyone. Wouldn't that be nice! By the way, I'm equally concerned about out ability to replace Carnell and Ronnie. I hope Trey, Irons, Stewart, et. al. do storm on the scene. WDE

[quietfan 233]

Its the guy that can pick apart the defense with his mind that will win more games and control the ball game.

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Exactly my thinking--especially with the Al Borges "Gulf Coast" offense.

[vatz22au 117]

It is readily apparent, even to some in this thread, that Cox has been "ordained" as the starter due to his talent. Maybe, but I haven't seen it.

Not trying to be critical of Cox, just stating it like I saw it. Cox looked solid in last year's A-day game and I spoke with him at length following the game. He talked about getting into a good rhythm and he clearly was ..... against a handcuffed defense comprised primarily of our 2nd team D.

I was less than impressed with his performance during actual game snaps last season. Cox definitely struggled with the speed of live action, his footwork was inconsistent, and he had difficulty with the out-throws.  Typical frosh performance. There might have been good reasons for it, but I noticed that he wasn't put in situations that called for the deep-out (things that make you go "Hmmmmm") Makes me question whether the arm-strength is all that and a bag of chips.  He did not look good by any stretch of the imagination during his live competition stints.

That being said, I have confidence that a full year under Borges will have significant results for Cox, and it is probably his job to lose.  Booker is definitely capable of pushing Cox and he has a truly remarkable arm. Trust me, the deep-out will not be a problem for Booker.  I love the fact that we have these guys around for several years to come. Let the competition begin and may the best young man win.

BTW, it wasn't "a lot of snaps" or Al Borges that allowed Jason Campbell to "get it" ..... it was having more time to go through the progressions, courtesy of an improved offensive line performance.

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Wow...a guy who actually looks at the player instead of just "i heard this.... someone told me" etc type of crap.

Well said cadillacattack......

The best young man will win...its not a lock for anyone guys. Whether it be Cox, Booker, or hell someone else....i'll be behind them.

[vatz22au 117]

It's really tough to guage Cox's performance last year.  I don't recall one play he ever ran with the first team.  I would love to have seen him run a few series with CW and RB and all the first team receivers, not to mention the first team line blocking for him.

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Ya I can see that.....but he doesnt have these players this year (he did run the offense with the first team receivers by the way)....so I guess hes just gonna have to work it out aint he?

Let the competition begin!!!

[WarTim 3,293]

It's a lock. BC is the starting qb. CTT said the job was open BEFORE last season started too.

p.s. It's a LOCK.

[SCWarEagle 4]

It's a lock. BC is the starting qb. CTT said the job was open BEFORE last season started too.

p.s. It's a LOCK.

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WT, how can you say that? I wouldn't WANT it to be a lock, you know? I mean, competition will only make good players better, and there's unfortunately a whole lot of time before the 2005 season kicks off.

I don't hve any dog in this hunt personally. I just want the best man to win the job. I just can't believe its a lock, at this point, on February 24.

[WarTim 3,293]

I could be wrong. (It has happened before ) BUT, everything points to BC as the starting qb. Here is a quick trivia question:

When is the last time there was a "shocker" as to whom the starting qb would be at AU?

Going back as far as my many years will allow, I can't ever remember the "Heir apparent" NOT getting the job. (Again , EXPERIENCE is GOLDEN)

Anyone?

p.s. The only player that comes to mind is in '90 when Freshman Stan White got the job over fifth year senior (a very skinny not really athletic but glad he was a Tiger because he recovered the onside kick at the end of the '89 Iron Bowl) Frank McIntosh.

Now THAT is "trivia"

[vatz22au 117]

I could be wrong. (It has happened before ) BUT, everything points to BC as the starting qb. Here is a quick trivia question:

When is the last time there was a "shocker" as to whom the starting qb would be at AU?

Going back as far as my many years will allow, I can't ever remember the "Heir apparent" NOT getting the job. (Again , EXPERIENCE is GOLDEN)

Anyone?

p.s. The only player that comes to mind is in '90 when Freshman Stan White got the job over fifth year senior (a very skinny not really athletic but glad he was a Tiger because he recovered the onside kick at the end of the '89 Iron Bowl) Frank McIntosh.

Now THAT is "trivia" 

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I think the point trying to be made is that yes, right now the job looks like it's Cox...but its not a lock.

You can make the argument that yes, most of the time the obvious choice wins...but thats not what we are stating. We are stating that its not a definite lock for Cox...meaning he cant go into spring drills without a competitive attitude or its not his job to take.