Chad Morris wants to run Air Raid

[GwillMac6 18,720]

at Arky in his introductory presser. He threw the ball over 400 times this season at SMU. That is over 100 more times than Ole Miss threw the ball. Ole Miss led the league in passing attempts this season. Mind you Chad Morris is the same guy who once said Gus was the one who he had to thank for everything he knows about offense and who taught him everything. My question is when and why the heck did Gus absolutely forgo any semblance whatsoever of a heavy pass team and become this heavy run guy? He never was that guy until He came to Auburn. Look I am not saying I want to run the air raid. Heck no! That has only worked once in the sec to great success and that was with spurrier who imo is the greatest playcaller ever. No I just wish a lot more of the air raid passing concepts were worked in to mesh with our great ground attack. 

[JoeinPF 94]

I’m having trouble with the visuals: Hogs running the Air Raid 

I guess it could happen - when pigs fly 

[JMassie11 1,544]

The air hog

[AU64 10,122]

How many winning  teams run the air raid.  IMO ..it is what you do if you have no running game.  Three of the four playoff teams are mostly ground pounders as we're most on rest of the top 10. 

Chad may run it for a while if he has to.... but he is unlikely to win many SEC games with it.

 

[AUld fAUx@ 2,584]

2 hours ago, JMassie11 said:

The air hog

A-10 is badass

[Mikey 14,923]

7 hours ago, GwillMac6 said:

at Arky in his introductory presser. He threw the ball over 400 times this season at SMU. That is over 100 more times than Ole Miss threw the ball. Ole Miss led the league in passing attempts this season. Mind you Chad Morris is the same guy who once said Gus was the one who he had to thank for everything he knows about offense and who taught him everything. My question is when and why the heck did Gus absolutely forgo any semblance whatsoever of a heavy pass team and become this heavy run guy? He never was that guy until He came to Auburn. Look I am not saying I want to run the air raid. Heck no! That has only worked once in the sec to great success and that was with spurrier who imo is the greatest playcaller ever. No I just wish a lot more of the air raid passing concepts were worked in to our great ground attack. 

You are looking at it bass-ackwards. Gus hasn't changed, he never was a pass first guy. It's Morris that changed.

[Weagle1787 574]

4 minutes ago, Mikey said:

You are looking at it bass-ackwards. Gus hasn't changed, he never was a pass first guy. It's Morris that changed.

Sorry, but he kind of did. Remember how Gus was churning out perennial 4,000 yrd passers at Tulsa? Not saying what worked there and then would work here and now, but it's a topic of curiosity worth discussing in these here friendly confines.

[Mikey 14,923]

4 minutes ago, Weagle1787 said:

Sorry, but he kind of did. Remember how Gus was churning out perennial 4,000 yrd passers at Tulsa? Not saying what worked there and then would work here and now, but it's a topic of curiosity worth discussing in these here friendly confines.

First and foremost, Gus has been exceptional at using what talent is available at the time. He was all run at Arky when he had McFadden & co. I believe his preference, like all successful coaches, is run first unless you don't have the talent to do it.

[SaturdayGT 718]

I wonder if they will implement the "SOOO-WIENG" pass?.....

[Strychnine 1,760]

4 minutes ago, Mikey said:

You are looking at it bass-ackwards. Gus hasn't changed, he never was a pass first guy. It's Morris that changed.

 

Rhett Lashlee has said that his high school teams threw the ball a lot more.  Gus' QB in 2007 at Tulsa made 544 pass attempts, and the next QB made 400 in 2008.  Chris Todd threw the ball 328 times at Auburn in 2009.  Ryan Aplin threw the ball 406 times at Arkansas State in 2012.

[AU64 10,122]

Gus runs first....if he can.   Check what he says...and watch what he does.   JMO...Chad and Arky will have a hard time using Air Raid....but then again, it might be his best option when he starts.

[aubearcat 2,095]

It's going to take a minute to get the personnel to run that offense. Probably 2-3 recruiting cycles.

[keesler 5,629]

Arky doesn't have the players to execute a highly explosive, fast-paced, HUNH, spread offense like Morris will want to run.  It'll take at least 2 recruiting cycles to get the players, and at least that same amount of time to implement it to the point were they can execute the scheme/plan to be effective.  Personally, I like the offense Morris runs a lot better than Malzhan's...........BUT, I haven't seen Morris operate in an SEC environment, so who knows which coach will have the most productive offense in the next few years.

[PowerOfDixieland 3,091]

The NFL is a QB driven, passing league. 

However, in most cases, it takes years to develop that guy.  Matt Ryan was MVP of the league and last night he looked like a rookie (often).  As we experienced this year, SEC defenses can make you pay for giving a back 25 carries a game, week in and week out.  I don't love what Leach does at WSU, but they can score points by the dozens, even when they look like crap for a half (I know I turned the TV off at half time of their game against Boise).  Everybody says they're looking for "balance" but not everybody has the same idea as to what that is.

[AU64 10,122]

6 minutes ago, PowerOfDixieland said:

The NFL is a QB driven, passing league. 

However, in most cases, it takes years to develop that guy.  Matt Ryan was MVP of the league and last night he looked like a rookie (often).  As we experienced this year, SEC defenses can make you pay for giving a back 25 carries a game, week in and week out.  I don't love what Leach does at WSU, but they can score points by the dozens, even when they look like crap for a half (I know I turned the TV off at half time of their game against Boise).  Everybody says they're looking for "balance" but not everybody has the same idea as to what that is.

We debate what "balance" means all the time and I guess every coach has his own idea.  Leach is the master of the "air raid" I guess....he and Kingsbury..... but when they run into real defenses they still have problems scoring.     I'm happy to see CM try the "air raid" or some version of it at Arky....kind of like a lab experiment for everyone to observe before declaring it a worthwhile plan for the SEC. 

What interests me however is the fact that in the last couple years most of the SEC has reverted to look like the NFL...or that NFL2.0 team over at bama.     Nobody running much of the hurry up offense and refs, as we saw in the second Ga game are helping the defense by giving them a lot of time to get players on and off the field if the HUNH team makes a substitution.

In addition to his complaint about our DBs holding, KS must have also complained about our quick snaps because refs seemed to stand over the ball forever allowing the dawg defense to get set......almost like they were looking over to see if they had permission from Kirby to start the play.

 

[GwillMac6 18,720]

2 hours ago, Mikey said:

You are looking at it bass-ackwards. Gus hasn't changed, he never was a pass first guy. It's Morris that changed.

[McLoofus 35,182]

4 hours ago, JMassie11 said:

The air hog

When pigs fly?

Morris is smart. He knows that Arkansas can't recruit on par with the big boys of the division. So he's got to run a gimmicky offense. Whether it's air raid, triple option, a true spread (as opposed to anything Gus Malzahn has run at Auburn)... heck, whatever New England- who simply chooses not to spend money on "five star" players- is running... you find something that can use niche players and that defenses have to uniquely prepare for. You won't win championships, but you can win enough to get into a bowl and even catch a big dog sleeping from time to time. That's Arkansas's ceiling, IMO, and they might have hired a guy who can reach it. 

[GwillMac6 18,720]

2 hours ago, Mikey said:

You are looking at it bass-ackwards. Gus hasn't changed, he never was a pass first guy. It's Morris that changed.

O really? when did morris ever favor the run over the pass pawwwwwwwwwwwwl? I will hang up and listen. Gus absolutely has changed. There was no warning he would all of sudden overnight become this HEAVY run first guy. It just happened when he became the oc at Auburn and gradually got more run based. I do not count his year as arky OC since he was grounded by nutt and doing what nutt wanted to do which is why he only left arky after 1 season and had a bad experience there.

[aubaseball 2,064]

1 hour ago, AU64 said:

holding, KS must have also complained about our quick snaps because refs seemed to stand over the ball forever allowing the dawg defense to get set......almost like they were looking over to see if they had permission from Kirby to start the play.

Agree 100 percent.   One of the dumbest rules ever implemented.  

[Auburnfan91 1,333]

7 hours ago, Mikey said:

First and foremost, Gus has been exceptional at using what talent is available at the time. He was all run at Arky when he had McFadden & co. I believe his preference, like all successful coaches, is run first unless you don't have the talent to do it.

Believe it or not, he's ran the ball more at Auburn every year, except 2009, than he did at Arkansas.

I know Wikipedia isn't always the most accurate source of information but they have Gus's run-pass balance every year's he's been coaching in college.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Malzahn

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Pass vs. run balance

• 2006 Arkansas: 302 vs. 546 (64% run)
• 2007 Tulsa: 564 vs. 562 (50%)
• 2008 Tulsa: 432 vs. 674 (61% run)
• 2009 Auburn: 364 vs. 550 (61% run)
• 2010 Auburn: 296 vs. 652 (69% run)
• 2011 Auburn: 292 vs. 536 (65% run)
• 2012 Arkansas State: 411 vs. 540 (57% run)
• 2013 Auburn: 285 vs. 729 (72% run)
• 2014 Auburn: 332 vs. 607 (65% run)
• 2015 Auburn: 306 vs. 587 (66% run)
• 2016 Auburn: 201 vs. 482 (71% run)

 

Gus has run the ball 65% of the time each season at Auburn except for 2009. In the other 4 years outside of Auburn; 1 at Arky, 2 at Tulsa, and 1 at Arky St, Gus ran run the ball less than 65% of the time.

[WarTim 3,210]

AU scored 40 & on all SEC opposition this year except lswho and uat. That'll do .......

[GwillMac6 18,720]

1 minute ago, WarTim said:

AU scored 40 & on all SEC opposition this year except lswho and uat. That'll do .......

I JUST LOVE A GOOD PASS!!!! Auburn has never given me a lot of that in my lifetime!!!! more cowbell?! I WANT MORE PASSING!!! lol

[augolf1716 18,950]

15 hours ago, JoeinPF said:

I’m having trouble with the visuals: Hogs running the Air Raid 

I guess it could happen - when pigs fly 

Pretty much like we all know turkey's can fly....................right

[Mikey 14,923]

7 hours ago, Auburnfan91 said:

Believe it or not, he's ran the ball more at Auburn every year, except 2009, than he did at Arkansas.

I know Wikipedia isn't always the most accurate source of information but they have Gus's run-pass balance every year's he's been coaching in college.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Malzahn

 

Gus has run the ball 65% of the time each season at Auburn except for 2009. In the other 4 years outside of Auburn; 1 at Arky, 2 at Tulsa, and 1 at Arky St, Gus ran run the ball less than 65% of the time.

64% at Arky is about the same as 65% and....Isn't that the same thing I said? What I said was Gus always has been run first when he had the talent to do so. Your stats pretty much prove that.

[Mikey 14,923]

13 hours ago, GwillMac6 said:

O really? when did morris ever favor the run over the pass pawwwwwwwwwwwwl? I will hang up and listen.

I don't know what Morris ever did or didn't do. You said he learned from Gus. If he did, then he changed. I do know that Gus never favored the pass over the run, which was my statement. You shouldn't have hung up before you understood the conversation.

If you need further information, check Auburnfan91's stats above. Gus has never been pass-happy. One year at Tulsa his team threw 50% passes, I suppose because they lacked a running attack. The rest of the time he's been a run first guy and the better his runners, the less his team passes. That's good football.