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USCw fired the first shot of the season …dismissed Neil Calloway and re-assigned Tee Martin.

https://www.al.com/sports/2018/10/former-uab-coach-neil-callaway-fired-at-usc-tee-martin-no-longer-calling-plays.html#incart_river_index

 

Who will be next?    

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I wonder how safe Fedora is at UNC

Because of the turnover last year in the SEC I really don’t see anyone in our conference on the hot seat unless Mizzou’s coach?? 

Boston College’s coach??? 

I don’t know it may be an uneventful coaching carousel this year. 

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17 hours ago, OnthePlains said:

I wonder how safe Fedora is at UNC

Because of the turnover last year in the SEC I really don’t see anyone in our conference on the hot seat unless Mizzou’s coach?? 

Boston College’s coach??? 

I don’t know it may be an uneventful coaching carousel this year. 

SEC seems pretty well set since most are now just in their first few years.   And so much national turnover the last couple years, there are not too many candidates unless some teams get really anxious about who they have.   What's interesting is how many of the new coaches (year 1) are really struggling at their new programs....but don't think any of them will be leaving for a while yet.   And the guys who are in trouble like Fedora and Petrino have big buyouts …

So....is Lane K going back out west or is the bloom off the rose as far as his HC future is concerned?   

Maybe fewer moves as you suggest...and fewer opportunities for the "up and comers"  too.  Some bad Power 5 teams out there however...Rutgers, Illinois, Oregon State, 

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On 10/29/2018 at 8:25 PM, AU64 said:

USCw fired the first shot of the season …dismissed Neil Calloway and re-assigned Tee Martin.

https://www.al.com/sports/2018/10/former-uab-coach-neil-callaway-fired-at-usc-tee-martin-no-longer-calling-plays.html#incart_river_index

 

Who will be next?    

Actually, Lincoln Riley fired the first shot when he fired his DC Mike Stoops. I doubt Riley was on any kind of hot seat.

Clay Helton's seat is getting hot. He had to do something.

What surprises me is Malzahn has not seen the need to take some kind of visible action. It could be as simple as hiring a big name analyst on a short-term contract, or a shuffle of some type. Maybe the thought is he would not need to do something like that unless we crater against aTm. Maybe he feels secure enough this season and will make changes in the off-season. Maybe he thinks making changes is worse than staying the course, so there is no point in it.

IMHO, we need shake-ups in OL, OC, and DB coaching. It may not require firing anyone. You move some on the field coaches to off the field positions, and you bring in some fresh blood. Saban has a football staff of over 90 people. He typically has enough experienced coaches in off the field positions that he can make changes without having to go outside to hire.

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4 minutes ago, meh130 said:

Actually, Lincoln Riley fired the first shot when he fired his DC Mike Stoops. I doubt Riley was on any kind of hot seat.

Clay Helton's seat is getting hot. He had to do something.

What surprises me is Malzahn has not seen the need to take some kind of visible action. It could be as simple as hiring a big name analyst on a short-term contract, or a shuffle of some type. Maybe the thought is he would not need to do something like that unless we crater against aTm. Maybe he feels secure enough this season and will make changes in the off-season. Maybe he thinks making changes is worse than staying the course, so there is no point in it.

IMHO, we need shake-ups in OL, OC, and DB coaching. It may not require firing anyone. You move some on the field coaches to off the field positions, and you bring in some fresh blood. Saban has a football staff of over 90 people. He typically has enough experienced coaches in off the field positions that he can make changes without having to go outside to hire.

Riley was catching heat over their poor defense....but not on the hot seat...and Stoops was not his coach anyway....inherited him when he got the job which made it easier to do. 

JMO but shaking things up now to the extent needed would basically be writing off the season, not to mention being destructive to the team.  Probably too late to make any serious / fundamental  changes  in the offense.   As for keeping any of those guys, there are some really big bucks involved and no point in paying any of them $500K+ to do a GA job as an "off field" analyst or whatever.  

So....I can't see any choice but to ride things out for the rest of the season and reassess.    And I can't see reassigning  off field guys to key jobs where we need some new life and some demonstrated success.    Hoping someone is gathering names and such for a new offensive staff...JMO

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On 10/29/2018 at 9:48 PM, PowerOfDixieland said:

Closing in on 80...probably time to finally put him out to pasture.

Snyder hand on forehead at Oklahoma 10.27.18

Gee I hope not. You know they’ll go after Venables, who I think would be a GREAT candidate for us whenever Gus is let go. I know everyone says he has skeletons in his closet, but until someone actually tells me what those skeletons are, he’d be among my top picks.

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1 hour ago, AUwent said:

Gee I hope not. You know they’ll go after Venables, who I think would be a GREAT candidate for us whenever Gus is let go. I know everyone says he has skeletons in his closet, but until someone actually tells me what those skeletons are, he’d be among my top picks.

Pretty sure Bill wants his son Sean to replace him...therein lies the problem (on every level) for K State.  I wonder if Venables would go home if called.

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On 10/31/2018 at 5:21 PM, AUwent said:

Gee I hope not. You know they’ll go after Venables, who I think would be a GREAT candidate for us whenever Gus is let go. I know everyone says he has skeletons in his closet, but until someone actually tells me what those skeletons are, he’d be among my top picks.

Never realized the K-State Venables connection. I wonder why that is why Venables has not taken an HC job already.

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48 minutes ago, meh130 said:

Never realized the K-State Venables connection. I wonder why that is why Venables has not taken an HC job already.

skeletons? lol

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18 minutes ago, ChltteTiger said:

skeletons? lol

Once again. Until someone comes out and actually says what those skeletons are, I don't care.

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18 hours ago, ChltteTiger said:

skeletons? lol

As I understand ...a year or two ago, K State had another HC candidate to replace Snyder.... but Snyder basically vetoed the selection and wanted his son to get the job.  School wanted to get outside and guess in the end they decided to keep Bill Snyder   That was Bill's second round as HC and he just signed a 5 year extension recently at about $4M per year so considering his age (almost 80) , he probably has a lifetime contract.  .  He may outlive Venables.   Bill's son Sean is the likely next coach it seems.  

Meanwhile the Kansas U job is open again.....seeing Les Miles mentioned..:-\

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https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/bobby-petrino-effect-20-louisville-players-have-reportedly-requested-transfer-paperwork-this-fall/

The Louisville sluggers better hold onto their britches if they want to have a team next year. I wonder how many more would transfer out if Auburn fires Gus?

Sidenote: Offensive masterminds in Gus, Petrino, and Pederson are all ranked somewhere close to or above 100th in scoring per game. Did they just forget what they they knew?

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8 hours ago, aujeff11 said:

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/bobby-petrino-effect-20-louisville-players-have-reportedly-requested-transfer-paperwork-this-fall/

The Louisville sluggers better hold onto their britches if they want to have a team next year. I wonder how many more would transfer out if Auburn fires Gus?

Sidenote: Offensive masterminds in Gus, Petrino, and Herman are all ranked somewhere above 100 in scoring per game. Did they just forget what they they knew?

Huh? It SEEMS like Texas has had a decent time scoring.

(I predicted they'd take a step up this year--8-9 wins--and it seems like they'll do just that.)

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13 minutes ago, AUwent said:

Huh

That’s a good question. I clicked on a different statistic maybe. And I actually forgot Herman was at Texas. There is my one DA moment of the day. 

Pederson is at 90th in scoring as well. What’s going on there?

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/points-per-game

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On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 3:43 PM, AUwent said:

Sidenote: Offensive masterminds in Gus, Petrino, and Herman are all ranked somewhere above 100 in scoring per game. Did they just forget what they they knew?

Could be that when you move some of these OCs to the HC job you just end up losing a good offensive coordinator ….and getting a guy who is not a good HC because he lacks the overall perspective needed for the job or lacks the leadership ?   :dunno:

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On 11/8/2018 at 7:17 AM, aujeff11 said:

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/bobby-petrino-effect-20-louisville-players-have-reportedly-requested-transfer-paperwork-this-fall/

The Louisville sluggers better hold onto their britches if they want to have a team next year. I wonder how many more would transfer out if Auburn fires Gus?

Sidenote: Offensive masterminds in Gus, Petrino, and Pederson are all ranked somewhere close to or above 100th in scoring per game. Did they just forget what they they knew?

I honestly do not get this. A program declines over several years, clearly has systemic issues, utterly collapses in one season, the coach is fired, and the players then transfer?

It would make more sense to transfer earlier. The players can see the internal issues. Are they so blind in their loyalty to Petrino they don't want to play for his successor?

With a change in head coach, there are opportunities for new visibility, and a fresh start--a fresh start similar to transferring.

I can certainly see a player transferring after a new coach is announced if they feel they will not fit in the new coach's system.

But I also saw some stuff about Texas A&M players transferring because Jimbo was both insulting and demanding, and clearly wanted to lay blame on Sumlin as being an insufficiently demanding coach. I can see how that might not endear loyalty to an athlete who was recruited by Sumlin.

Regarding the fall of "offensive masterminds", I think that happens to a lot of coaches, both offensive and defensive masterminds--remember Buddy Ryan? Football is a game of constant adaption. A new offensive scheme demands a new defensive scheme, which demands a new offensive scheme. One only has to look at how much Alabama's offense has changed during Saban's tenure to see this. The same applies to Saban's defense, which has evolved significantly.

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