Everyone better refresh your reading of

[DKW 86 7,965]

4) Leave the Players Alone. They are 18-22 year old kids. If they sometime act like kids, hey, thats what they do. If they have an off day, give them some grace. If you talk about a situation, I would refer to positions. Saying that the "WRs underperformed." That is very different from saying "Joe Smith sucks!"

From the AUNation Rules.

I have already started suspending folks and will do it more if necessary.

This is the AUnation Board, it belongs to the whole AU Family. That includes players and their families too.

To a few of you, grow up, get lives.

['76 Tiger 108]

Thanks for doing your job. It's not fun, but someone had to do it or the board will slide into the sewer.

[ChattanoogaTiger 0]

I rarely post on the FB forum but visit daily. Thank you for maintaining civility

[wardameagl 2]

As a police officer, I would like to inform everyone that your 1st Amendment right does not apply on this website.

[Tigermike 3,867]

Sure it does as long as you follow the rules and "Leave the Players Alone. They are 18-22 year old kids. If they sometime act like kids, hey, thats what they do. If they have an off day, give them some grace. If you talk about a situation, I would refer to positions. Saying that the "WRs underperformed." That is very different from saying "Joe Smith sucks!"

[AUHansel 0]

I'm not sure I like or understand this rule very much. Basically we can say if a player had a great game and talk positive about him but if we have anything negative to say we get suspended? They are going to see stuff written about them. I've already seen several articles about the game and how our QB "underperformed" or had bad game, even though I think he did a good job besides the mistakes. They are in the national spotlight and should be able to take what is coming. It isn't pop warner. You're right, these so called "kids" are 18-22, what's the big deal. All of the players are of legal age. I'm not saying that I want to post negative things, because I don't want to. I think people should be able to voice their opinion though.

[Ranger12 53]

I'm not sure I like or understand this rule very much. Basically we can say if a player had a great game and talk positive about him but if we have anything negative to say we get suspended? They are going to see stuff written about them. I've already seen several articles about the game and how our QB "underperformed" or had bad game, even though I think he did a good job besides the mistakes. They are in the national spotlight and should be able to take what is coming. It isn't pop warner. You're right, these so called "kids" are 18-22, what's the big deal. All of the players are of legal age. I'm not saying that I want to post negative things, because I don't want to. I think people should be able to voice their opinion though.

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The point is that this is a privately owned website. This not the media and David would not want it to sink to their level. The man makes the rules and if you want to post on this board, then you either follow them or you're out. Just because it is done elsewhere does not make it right. Nobody said you could not be critical of gameplay. But there are some that get nasty about it and that is when the line is crossed. Just think about it if it was your kid out there playing. How would you feel if you saw "Joe Smith is horrible, sucks, etc". nation is about class and David tries to run this board with it. Name calling of players is something that can't be tolerated.

[aumoore 0]

DKW correct me if I am wrong:

What I feel is you do not want BASHING of the player but if you have a civil critisism of the player that is permitted. For example there is a big difference in saying Brandon Cox had a bad day vs Brandon Cox sucks(I feel he had a great day marred by a few rookie mistakes)

If you don't like the way Auburn is doing there are Bama Boards where you can pretend you are a Bama fan and bash Auburn all you want.

I would also like the Brodie will get hurt stopped as well. He is still a young man and we should not wish him ill will.

Act like grown ups

[quietfan 233]

DKW correct me if I am wrong:

What I feel is you do not want BASHING of the player but if you have a civil critisism of the player that is permitted.  For example there is a big difference in saying Brandon Cox had a bad day vs Brandon Cox sucks(I feel he had a great day marred by a few rookie mistakes)

If you don't like the way Auburn is doing there are Bama Boards where you can pretend you are a Bama fan and bash Auburn all you want.

I would also like the Brodie will get hurt stopped as well.  He is still a young man and we should not wish him ill will.

Act like grown ups

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That's my interpretation also. Contructive criticism of specific playing, such as "our outfielders don't seem to be fast enough to get to fast line drives", or "our relief pitching against left-handed batters is a big weakness", or John Doe has trouble hitting the curve ball" seems OK. (I'm choosing baseball analogies on purpose to keep avoid any confusion with actual AU football players.)

But "John Doe sucks", "Paul Doe is too stupid to be a starting pitcher", or "Jane Doe couldn't hit her way out of a paper bag!" is crossing the line.

I think Ranger said it best with his implied corollary to the Golden Rule: "Do onto others as you would have others do unto your son."

But that's just my interpretation. Obviously David makes the rules for his board--and does a might fine job of it, I might add!

[DKW 86 7,965]

DKW correct me if I am wrong:

What I feel is you do not want BASHING of the player but if you have a civil critisism of the player that is permitted.  For example there is a big difference in saying Brandon Cox had a bad day vs Brandon Cox sucks(I feel he had a great day marred by a few rookie mistakes)

If you don't like the way Auburn is doing there are Bama Boards where you can pretend you are a Bama fan and bash Auburn all you want.

I would also like the Brodie will get hurt stopped as well.  He is still a young man and we should not wish him ill will.

Act like grown ups

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That's my interpretation also. Contructive criticism of specific playing, such as "our outfielders don't seem to be fast enough to get to fast line drives", or "our relief pitching against left-handed batters is a big weakness", or John Doe has trouble hitting the curve ball" seems OK. (I'm choosing baseball analogies on purpose to keep avoid any confusion with actual AU football players.)

But "John Doe sucks", "Paul Doe is too stupid to be a starting pitcher", or "Jane Doe couldn't hit her way out of a paper bag!" is crossing the line.

I think Ranger said it best with his implied corollary to the Golden Rule: "Do onto others as you would have others do unto your son."

But that's just my interpretation. Obviously David makes the rules for his board--and does a might fine job of it, I might add!

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Look, you guys are right. Just dont bash the poor kids. Critique a position or some real aspect. naming a player and slamming an 18 year old kid is just stoopid. I know when I was 18-22, I was not a model of consistency.

I TELL YOU WHAT, TALK ABOUT THEM LIKE THEY ARE PART OF YOUR FAMILY, OR YOU KNEW THEIR PARENTS WERE READINIG THE SITE.

WITHOUT NAMING NAMES, we have parents that view here.

[wardameagl 2]

Remember these rules guys!!! We will see if they change as Brandon Cox will be 23 years old next year and apparently that makes him an adult.

These are kids and I am not bashing them but, spending $50 to see them play makes them fair game for bashing. We are paying for there education and housing.

[TrueBlue72 0]

I think that any bashing of players should be done face-to-face with the player and with one of the player's friends (Big Mac comes to mind) so that they have ample opportunity to do some bashing of their own! Hiding behind the anonymity of a computer keyboard and bashing is cowardly and really has no place among the Auburn family.

[AUloggerhead 2,582]

Remember these rules guys!!!  We will see if they change as Brandon Cox will be 23 years old next year and apparently that makes him an adult.

These are kids and I am not bashing them but, spending $50 to see them play makes them fair game for bashing.  We are paying for there education and housing.

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Wazzit? Buying a ticket to watch a game doesn't have a thing to do with this site. If you think it's OK to bash a player or coach from the stands, I have news for you -- they can't hear your colorful comments on the sidelines or on the field. (I often wonder about people in the stands that yell out things. Do they really think the players are going to hear them, or are they indirectly trying to tell everyone around them what they think?)

You lost me with your previous post, too. The 4th Amendment? What does unreasonable search & seizure have to do with this forum?

[TrueBlue72 0]

You got it right, Loggerhead. It just shows that those who bash are the real losers.

I really do despise it when people who are supposed to be part of the Auburn family sit in the stands and yell obscenities and degrading remarks to the players. It seems like I'm sitting in front of one of them every few games. I wish there were some way to have a "mute button" for them, or to switch channels and suddenly make them into the Bammers that they act like.

[OKieAuburnDoug 1]

I'm blaming Gibbs, Borges and the refs more than anybody else...players make rookie mistakes.

[Ranger12 53]

I'm blaming Gibbs, Borges and the refs more than anybody else...players make rookie mistakes.

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Okay, I have heard enough finger pointing at refs. Refs did not win or lose that game for anybody. Our OL and DL got ran over and the refs had nothing to do with that. I will never blame refs for a loss. A ref does not throw the ball, run the ball, or catch the ball. A ref does not block or tackle.

[DKW 86 7,965]

Remember these rules guys!!!  We will see if they change as Brandon Cox will be 23 years old next year and apparently that makes him an adult.

These are kids and I am not bashing them but, spending $50 to see them play makes them fair game for bashing.  We are paying for there education and housing.

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Wazzit? Buying a ticket to watch a game doesn't have a thing to do with this site. If you think it's OK to bash a player or coach from the stands, I have news for you -- they can't hear your colorful comments on the sidelines or on the field. (I often wonder about people in the stands that yell out things. Do they really think the players are going to hear them, or are they indirectly trying to tell everyone around them what they think?)

You lost me with your previous post, too. The 4th Amendment? What does unreasonable search & seizure have to do with this forum?

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Your $50 went to , not this site...

Thanks for playing....

Feel like you just must act like an and want to rip some players?

www.autigers.com

[WarTim 3,534]

Let's try talking about players as if they were our children or at least talk about them the way you would want somebody to "talk" about your children. After all, it is still a game and they are still just kids.

[OKieAuburnDoug 1]

I'm blaming Gibbs, Borges and the refs more than anybody else...players make rookie mistakes.

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Okay, I have heard enough finger pointing at refs. Refs did not win or lose that game for anybody. Our OL and DL got ran over and the refs had nothing to do with that. I will never blame refs for a loss. A ref does not throw the ball, run the ball, or catch the ball. A ref does not block or tackle.

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they only give freebie FGs on OFFSETTING deadball personal foul calls WHICH is suppsed to negate penalty yardage!! Mix was on the sideline and who is #90 so the call on AU was a fluke!!

Cox was hit late ALL night and wasn't protected. PERIOD.

I rarely knock officiating but this was a contributing factor.

CONTRIBUTING FACTORS:

Gibbs choke job

Borges playcalling after the running game took over...

TOs

OFFICIATING

I would equally EQUALLY the blame

WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR BLITZ DID IT LEAVE WITH CHIZIK!?!?!

[Guest Tigrinum Major]

I'm blaming Gibbs, Borges and the refs more than anybody else...players make rookie mistakes.

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Okay, I have heard enough finger pointing at refs. Refs did not win or lose that game for anybody. Our OL and DL got ran over and the refs had nothing to do with that. I will never blame refs for a loss. A ref does not throw the ball, run the ball, or catch the ball. A ref does not block or tackle.

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I am with you, ranger. The refs may affect one play, but overall, if the refs are able to influence the outcome of a game, you probably were beaten anyway.

Crying about the refs continually is for losers. Overcoming adversary and picking yourself off the ground is what makes winners. This applies to fans as well as players. My eleven year old son was complaining about the officials after the game and I explained it to him very clearly that the refs did not cheat for GA Tech and that even if they missed a call or two, it did not beat Auburn. Line play on both sides of the ball had much more to do with that issue.

As far as the player bashing issue, most of us are grownups. As grownups, we should be able to express ourselves and make an objective critique of a team performance (because, last time I checked, no one player was out there alone for any snaps of the football on Saturday night) without making some of the asinine statements I read early Sunday morning and afternoon. Some of you need to become grownups and join the rest of us. If it makes you feel better to make statements like I read from a few of you, go over to ITAT and join in the meltdown.

Remember guys, wisdom comes with age, but sometimes, age comes alone.

[AUesquire 1]

The only area of concern with our defense for me was the lack of adjustments to the bootleg roll outs Ball did numerous times in the first half. Our ends never seemed to recognize that and never contained. That play hurt us several times. Other than that, I thought our D did pretty well, especially when the DBs settled in.

I agree there were some questionable calls and no calls but I never had the sense the game turned at any point on the refs calls. If I had to nail down one particular thing that had the biggest effect on the outcome, it was not picking up the blitz. That accounted for quite a few bad plays and errant throws when it looked like we had good drives going.

Rest assured, Croom and company are watching that film right now and putting their blitz packages in. I imagine Nall and Gran are watching it too.

[sevenDs 0]

I think this game was lost due to lack of preparation for Ball. He impressed me with his mobility and Dameyune Craig-like ability to make a play out of nothing. Having said that, I'm not sure that we could have prepared for him any more than we did. The offense was expected to be slow to start and Ball kept us off balance defensively. The refs didn't lost the game for us, but they made Brandon's position more difficult with their inconsistency. Without those calls, the score might have been closer. But with all the illegal motion penalties we committed, I can't say the refs lost the game for us.

And I can say I'm proud of the players.

[chinook 0]

These are kids and I am not bashing them but, spending $50 to see them play makes them fair game for bashing.  We are paying for there education and housing.

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wow! you must be kidding me. i'm just glad you aren't teaching them logic and english.

i am proud of the 2005 auburn football team.

[War Eagle 96 10]

As a police officer, I would like to inform everyone that your 1st Amendment right does not apply on this website.

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As a police officer, I'm surprised you don't know that the 1st Amendment protects our right to free speech from goverment censorship, not from censorship on this website. The people that run this website don't have to leave any post on this website that they don't want.

Government education...sad.

[texaubie 0]

As a police officer, I would like to inform everyone that your 1st Amendment right does not apply on this website.

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As a police officer, I'm surprised you don't know that the 1st Amendment protects our right to free speech from goverment censorship, not from censorship on this website. The people that run this website don't have to leave any post on this website that they don't want.

Government education...sad.

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Didn't you just say the same thing...