API50 0 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Lester looks like he may be the TB we are looking for.... quick and elusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger12 53 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I was thinking the same thing on those couple of runs he made. He looked very quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Darty is the word I am looking for I think. He looked good. Irons looked okay till the fumble. I don't like trash talking though. After having two class acts like RB and caddy in the backfield we are spoiled I guess. Stewart looks pretty good too. I think the handwriting is on the wall about tre right now. He is a great kid and can help the team alot, but he just doesn't look like a first or 2nd teamer at tb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKieAuburnDoug 1 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 He looked good but I wasstill rank them: IRONS Stew Tre Lester 3 carries isn't enough to anoint him the top guy..need some bulk and muscle in the bf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vatz22au 145 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Ok so the kid fumbled......Ive seen Ronnie and Caddy fumble a couple balls in my day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger12 53 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 He looked good but I wasstill rank them:IRONS Stew Tre Lester 3 carries isn't enough to anoint him the top guy..need some bulk and muscle in the bf... 180133[/snapback] I think you are reading too much into the comments. Nobody is anointing him the top guy. It was just an opinion based upon the way the kid looked on his 3 carries. Based upon that, it was impressive. I would not be surprised to see this young man work his way into more carries. But, there is still alot of playing left to do and besides Tre, our RBs are young. In a couple of years we may have another Ronnie/Caddy combo. I like T88's word for Lester..."darty". Possible nickname for the young man? Overall the running game looked a little better, but the offense still needs alot of work. It was not a pretty win offensive wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven 0 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 I have to say I was impressed by lester, I still say fumble or not I think Irons then Stewart should be the way the backs go. I like tre smith he has a ton of heart but trying to run up the middle with him is just not going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sntemp 0 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 I wasn't very impressed with Lester. He might have had a few good carries late in the game after the defense was tired but it will take more than a few carries in the 4th qtr to convince me a TB that small can be the go to guy in the SEC. Kenny Irons is the best of the bunch in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger12 53 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 I wasn't very impressed with Lester. He might have had a few good carries late in the game after the defense was tired but it will take more than a few carries in the 4th qtr to convince me a TB that small can be the go to guy in the SEC.Kenny Irons is the best of the bunch in my opinion. 180212[/snapback] I remember a great small RB called Lionel James that had no problem running the ball in the SEC. Some of the greatest RBs ever, college and NFL, were not very big guys, so size is not as important as quickness. That is what alot of RB coaches teach anyway. But, how can say you were not impressed? I can understand saying he did not have enough carries to show you anything as far moving him up in the depth chart, but his few carries were impressive. I don't think or offense exactly put it the MS defense to make them that tired did we? Again, I don't think anybody is saying move him up the depth chart, but going by his carries, I think it would be a good idea to give him a few more carries a game to see how he does. The three ahead of him are doing okay, but they are certainly not blowing anybody away right now. IMO, nothing wrong with rotating all four in. 3/4ths of our RBs are young, so splitting up the carries more would be a wise move on CTTs part. But, that is just my 2 cents and if I new as much as I try to make myself sound like I do, I would be talking about it, I would be doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sntemp 0 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 "but his few carries were impressive." He had 1 impressive carry and that went for 22 yards and even that was a hole many other running backs would have hit better. His other 5 carries totaled 12 yards. I like the kid and hope I am wrong, i just don't think I am this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,948 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Give me: KI Stewart Lester Tre We can save Tre for the Iron Bowl. Everybody in the nation knows he can run on Bama....lol Seriously, Tre is a great guy and all, but he does not seem to fit the "Featured Back" role. Still good back tho. Better than a few starting in the SEC. He can definitely catch too. But seems to me, KI is the real deal @ rb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger12 53 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 "but his few carries were impressive."He had 1 impressive carry and that went for 22 yards and even that was a hole many other running backs would have hit better. His other 5 carries totaled 12 yards. I like the kid and hope I am wrong, i just don't think I am this time. 180227[/snapback] Umm...his TD carry and the carry before that was impressive. Okay, since my regular, boring job that I get paid for is in the numbers game (process improvement) lets break down the numbers. Going by what you said, we should negate his yards because of one big carry of 22 yards. If so then what is the stat or formula do we use as a measuring stick? formula? I guess yards per carry then? He had more yards per carry then of all the RBs. I have our rusing stats at the bottom. If you take out each rushers longest carry, Lester still did pretty dang good compared to the others. Overall, he had four less yards rushing with 3 less carries then the leading rusher, Stewart. He had 6 more yards rushing then Irons, but with 7 less carries. Again, I am not saying one is better then the other. Just saying that Lester looked good and needs more chances. I had to bring out the stats because you were trying to say Lester was not impressive except for his one carry. Well according to the stats he was just four yards shy of being the leading rusher and has less carries then the leading rusher. I would say it was impressive compared to everybody else that carried the ball for us. Point is, when you see a player that low in the depth chart come out and carry the ball like he did, he deserves more touches to see if he is consistent or if it was a fluke. You are right that he only had 6 carries, but what if he would have had 15? Would he have had another 20+ yard carry? Maybe break 100 yards? More carries=more chances to break another long one. However as team rushing stats go, there is alot of work to be done. 2.9 team AVG yards per carry will not get you a first down in a series. I have faith that the coaching staff will bring them all along. I think, eventually, you may see Stewart, Irons, and Lester rotating out alot more. As much as I love Tre Smith, he has the heart and desire, but his speed is not on the same level as the others. Tre is a good hard player that is going to give you 100% every game and he is a great contribution to the team, but unfortunately, he will probably wind up in the same role as he did with Caddy and Ronnie. WDE!!! CAR YDS AVG TD LG Carl Stewart 9 38 4.2 0 20 Brad Lester 6 34 5.7 1 22 Kenny Irons 13 28 2.2 0 7 Brandon Cox 8 11 1.4 0 4 Tre Smith 5 7 1.4 0 4 Team 41 118 2.9 1 -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sntemp 0 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 You're forgetting an important factor in all this. Lester carried the ball 3 times in the 1st qtr for a total of 4 yards. His other 3 carries came in the final 2 1/2 minutes of the 4th qtr for a total of 30 yards. As any football person knows it's easier to rack up yards when the D is tired, down, and knows the game is out of reach. None of the backs have impressed me to this point, but in my opinion from what I have seen so far this year and what I had seen of him while he was at Parkview Lester is the weakest of the four. Irons Stewart Tre Lester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 We can save Tre for the Iron Bowl. Everybody in the nation knows he can run on Bama....lol Seriously, Tre is a great guy and all, but he does not seem to fit the "Featured Back" role. Still good back tho. Better than a few starting in the SEC. He can definitely catch too. 180239[/snapback] Regrading Tre: http://www.al.com/sportsflash/auburn/index...torylist=auburn Smith, Norwood injured in Auburn-Mississippi State game9/10/2005, 5:07 p.m. CT The Associated Press AUBURN, Ala. (AP)  Tailbacks Tre Smith and Jerious Norwood both sustained injuries in Saturday's Auburn-Mississippi State game. Auburn's Smith said he believes he sprained a ligament in his right knee, and he said team doctors expect it to heal within a week. "I played the rest of the game on it," Smith said. "It was just in the fourth quarter I started to feel it a little more. I wasn't quite a hundred percent." Didn't hear this until this post. Doesn't sound too serious, but after having to medshirt redshirt last year, I hope Tre doesn't have any more serious injuries in his career. Anyway, I agree that I'd like to see Tre take on the receiver role that Ronnie Brown played so often last year. Obviously he must have good hands if they trust him to return kicks. Let Kenny and/or Carl work by the QB and split Tre on pass routes a la Brown. Once they master their blocking techniques, both of those will have a little more meat on them for protecting the quarterback, too. But first, get him well. Regarding Norwood's injury, the article says: Mississippi State's Norwood said he fell on his left shoulder "on the second or third play of the game." He said he expected to play next week."I wanted to keep playing but after awhile the pain was just too great," he said. "I have never had an injury like this before, but injuries are part of the game. I just have to get stronger for next week." So hopefully that's minor too. Hope they both get back into their respective line ups next weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFTiger 282 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Lester's sterling runs came in the 4th quarter when both teams had their benches in the game so I don't know what it means. I am concerned about the running game. It was evident to me that the coaches wanted to establish the running game today with 41 rushes to 18 pass plays. We average 2.88 yards per carry (118 yards total). Brad Lester had the longest carry at 22 yards. We are nowhere near where we were last year. I noticed more single back sets today and the delayed draws to Irons went nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auskull 242 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Its obivious from the comments above that one of the four has not stepped up yet. There is no clear cut leader in this group or anyone playing at the level of any of the great backs AU has had in the past. Over the course of the year hopefully one TB will step forward and assume the fulltime TB duties. We have got to have a good recruiting year at TB. These guys will get the job done but not at the same level we are accustomed too. They bleed Orange and Blue and will give it there all but until the ONE shows up, and we will all know when that happens, it probably will be by committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weagl1 1,812 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 I think Lester showed some bounce and some quickness that the other backs don't have. He at least earned a few more carries in upcoming games. I know he has been hurt a lot so that has probably hurt his chances of getting into the rotation. Stewart is the only one of the bunch that really looks like an Auburn tailback. I know Smith has a lot of heart but he is just too small, if someone gets a hand on him he is down. He almost cost us a safety yesterday on a tackle that Caddy, Ronnie, Rudi or a dozen other AU backs from the past would have run right through. Jury is still out on Irons as far as I am concerned. People who have seem more of him think he is the real deal but I haven's seen it so far. All in all, I just don't think there is a big time running back in this group. The coaches better be hitting the recruiting trail hard this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
API50 0 Posted September 11, 2005 Author Share Posted September 11, 2005 An opinion from another who watched Lester play in HS. "I've been a fan of Lesters since I watched him play at Parkview. He is simply a player. All he needed was a chance and I think he made a lot of it today. I hope he gets some more chances the next two weeks because he can be very, very good." Comments from others: He hits the hole hard... and brings some punch with him. He's going to be good. Lester appears to have...... the best TB instincts of four. I liked what I saw out of him. Irons and Stewart looked good too. I like Brad Lester's potential. He just needs to stay healthy. That has been his big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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