MDM4AU 338 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 ...The report named some high-profile individuals and companies including a former French interior minister, Charles Pasqua; Rev. Jean-Marie Benjamin, a priest who once worked as an assistant to the Vatican secretary of state and opposed Iraqi sanctions; carmakers DaimlerChrysler AG, Volvo and South Korea's Daewoo International; and industrial giants Siemens AG. Jean-Bernard Merrimee, France's former U.N. ambassador, received $165,725 in commissions from oil allocations awarded to him by the Iraqi regime. He is now under investigation in France and has denied any wrongdoing. Other "political beneficiaries" included British lawmaker George Galloway; Roberto Formigoni, the president of the Lombardi region in Italy; Vladimir Zhirinovsky, who heads Russia's Liberal Democratic Party; and Alexander Voloshin, who at the time was chief of staff in the administration of Russia's president. They have all denied wrongdoing. ABC News Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,856 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 British lawmaker George Galloway. Wasn't he held up by democrats and the left in this country as a great, honest politician and humanitarian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM4AU 338 Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 British lawmaker George Galloway. Wasn't he held up by democrats and the left in this country as a great, honest politician and humanitarian? 193296[/snapback] He was definitely one of the loudest opponents of invading Iraq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Far too little is being reported about this. And speaking of that, what's become of Able Danger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 14,547 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Far too little is being reported about this. And speaking of that, what's become of Able Danger? 193341[/snapback] What became of Able Danger? Thanks for asking. The President that you think saved us from an inattentive Bill Clinton was so out-of-touch with the terrorism threat that he canned the program during the first few weeks of his administration: A small group of Defense Intelligence Agency employees ran the Able Danger operation from fall 1999 to February 2001 - just seven months before the terrorist attacks - when the operation was unceremoniously axed, according to a former defense intelligence official familiar with the program. http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?n...RD=1672&PAG=461 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,956 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 British lawmaker George Galloway. Wasn't he held up by democrats and the left in this country as a great, honest politician and humanitarian? 193296[/snapback] He was definitely one of the loudest opponents of invading Iraq 193318[/snapback] And now we know why.......of course this will get swept under the rug by the Left, as always. I literally choked on my adult beverage as I read that! Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told. For 36 years everybody in the press bought that lie until some blogger pointed out that he was talking about 1968 and Nixon wasnt even in power then. Kerry lied for 36years and the Left Press were too stupid to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 14,547 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 British lawmaker George Galloway. Wasn't he held up by democrats and the left in this country as a great, honest politician and humanitarian? 193296[/snapback] He was definitely one of the loudest opponents of invading Iraq 193318[/snapback] And now we know why.......of course this will get swept under the rug by the Left, as always. I literally choked on my adult beverage as I read that! Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told. For 36 years everybody in the press bought that lie until some blogger pointed out that he was talking about 1968 and Nixon wasnt even in power then. Kerry lied for 36years and the Left Press were too stupid to figure it out. 193374[/snapback] Yeah, it's exactly like that. It's hilarious the lengths to which you will go to get in digs with your pet hatreds. What about Teddy and Hillary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,856 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 British lawmaker George Galloway. Wasn't he held up by democrats and the left in this country as a great, honest politician and humanitarian? 193296[/snapback] He was definitely one of the loudest opponents of invading Iraq 193318[/snapback] And now we know why.......of course this will get swept under the rug by the Left, as always. I literally choked on my adult beverage as I read that! Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told. For 36 years everybody in the press bought that lie until some blogger pointed out that he was talking about 1968 and Nixon wasnt even in power then. Kerry lied for 36years and the Left Press were too stupid to figure it out. 193374[/snapback] Yeah, it's exactly like that. It's hilarious the lengths to which you will go to get in digs with your pet hatreds. What about Teddy and Hillary? 193389[/snapback] Teddy did kill a young lady didn't he? Now he is an icon of the democrat's and spokesman for the radical left, isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 14,547 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 British lawmaker George Galloway. Wasn't he held up by democrats and the left in this country as a great, honest politician and humanitarian? 193296[/snapback] He was definitely one of the loudest opponents of invading Iraq 193318[/snapback] And now we know why.......of course this will get swept under the rug by the Left, as always. I literally choked on my adult beverage as I read that! Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told. For 36 years everybody in the press bought that lie until some blogger pointed out that he was talking about 1968 and Nixon wasnt even in power then. Kerry lied for 36years and the Left Press were too stupid to figure it out. 193374[/snapback] Yeah, it's exactly like that. It's hilarious the lengths to which you will go to get in digs with your pet hatreds. What about Teddy and Hillary? 193389[/snapback] Teddy did kill a young lady didn't he? Now he is an icon of the democrat's and spokesman for the radical left, isn't he? 193394[/snapback] If someone wants to post about Chappaquiddick everyday, that's okay with me. It's just interesting how certain themes are continually tied into everything--- "Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told." This kinda reminds me of old men who talk about the same thing over and over no matter what the prompt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,856 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 British lawmaker George Galloway. Wasn't he held up by democrats and the left in this country as a great, honest politician and humanitarian? 193296[/snapback] He was definitely one of the loudest opponents of invading Iraq 193318[/snapback] And now we know why.......of course this will get swept under the rug by the Left, as always. I literally choked on my adult beverage as I read that! Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told. For 36 years everybody in the press bought that lie until some blogger pointed out that he was talking about 1968 and Nixon wasnt even in power then. Kerry lied for 36years and the Left Press were too stupid to figure it out. 193374[/snapback] Yeah, it's exactly like that. It's hilarious the lengths to which you will go to get in digs with your pet hatreds. What about Teddy and Hillary? 193389[/snapback] Teddy did kill a young lady didn't he? Now he is an icon of the democrat's and spokesman for the radical left, isn't he? 193394[/snapback] If someone wants to post about Chappaquiddick everyday, that's okay with me. It's just interesting how certain themes are continually tied into everything--- "Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told." This kinda reminds me of old men who talk about the same thing over and over no matter what the prompt. 193398[/snapback] I know what you mean, kind of like the left's hatred of Bush permeates most all of their conversations and determines how they respond to any thing happening in the world today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,956 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 British lawmaker George Galloway. Wasn't he held up by democrats and the left in this country as a great, honest politician and humanitarian? 193296[/snapback] He was definitely one of the loudest opponents of invading Iraq 193318[/snapback] And now we know why.......of course this will get swept under the rug by the Left, as always. I literally choked on my adult beverage as I read that! Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told. For 36 years everybody in the press bought that lie until some blogger pointed out that he was talking about 1968 and Nixon wasnt even in power then. Kerry lied for 36years and the Left Press were too stupid to figure it out. 193374[/snapback] Yeah, it's exactly like that. It's hilarious the lengths to which you will go to get in digs with your pet hatreds. What about Teddy and Hillary? 193389[/snapback] Teddy did kill a young lady didn't he? Now he is an icon of the democrat's and spokesman for the radical left, isn't he? 193394[/snapback] If someone wants to post about Chappaquiddick everyday, that's okay with me. It's just interesting how certain themes are continually tied into everything--- "Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told." This kinda reminds me of old men who talk about the same thing over and over no matter what the prompt. 193398[/snapback] And TEx, The fact that you are doing exactly as I said you would do is not lost on anyone. You never addressed the Galloway-Oil-for-Food link.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 14,547 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 British lawmaker George Galloway. Wasn't he held up by democrats and the left in this country as a great, honest politician and humanitarian? 193296[/snapback] He was definitely one of the loudest opponents of invading Iraq 193318[/snapback] And now we know why.......of course this will get swept under the rug by the Left, as always. I literally choked on my adult beverage as I read that! Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told. For 36 years everybody in the press bought that lie until some blogger pointed out that he was talking about 1968 and Nixon wasnt even in power then. Kerry lied for 36years and the Left Press were too stupid to figure it out. 193374[/snapback] Yeah, it's exactly like that. It's hilarious the lengths to which you will go to get in digs with your pet hatreds. What about Teddy and Hillary? 193389[/snapback] Teddy did kill a young lady didn't he? Now he is an icon of the democrat's and spokesman for the radical left, isn't he? 193394[/snapback] If someone wants to post about Chappaquiddick everyday, that's okay with me. It's just interesting how certain themes are continually tied into everything--- "Kind of reminded me of the "Christmas in Cambodia" that Kerry told." This kinda reminds me of old men who talk about the same thing over and over no matter what the prompt. 193398[/snapback] And TEx, The fact that you are doing exactly as I said you would do is not lost on anyone. You never addressed the Galloway-Oil-for-Food link.... 193402[/snapback] Who has really addressed it on this thread? You didn't. You launched into a Kerry in Cambodia rant. I haven't read the report, but let the chips fall where they may. If the facts show anyone acted improperly, take action. The guy's a member of Parliament, right? I suspect this is a matter for the British to address. I haven't been the guy's cheerleader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 What became of Able Danger? Thanks for asking. The President that you think saved us from an inattentive Bill Clinton was so out-of-touch with the terrorism threat that he canned the program during the first few weeks of his administration TT, President Bush isn't the issue here, so don't try to spin it that way. The real problems here have more to do w/ different agencies in Gov't being incapable,unwilling , or not allowed to share information between each other. It's been well established that the wall of seperation is a problem inherent in the different agencies. But that still does not address the issue as to WHY none of the Able Danger info was included in with the rest of the 9/11 Commission Report. ...the two commission staff members who interviewed the officer in July 2004 concluded his story about a Defense Department intelligence counterterrorism program, called Able Danger, that worked to identify and target al-Qaida and other terrorists, was not credible. As a result, the information was not included in the commission's final report published July 22, 2004. Seems now that the info was more than credible, yet they left it out. Wonder why. Between fall 1999 and early 2000, the intelligence team concluded that Atta, and two others, were likely part of a terrorist cell in Brooklyn.At that point, Able Danger wanted the FBI, assisted by Special Operations Command, to track the group. But to the team's surprise, SOCOM's legal counsel shot down the idea. "I tried to broker meetings between Special Operations and the FBI, but SOCOM's lawyers squashed it," the former defense officials said. According to the former official, the Special Operations attorneys told the team it couldn't perform surveillance on the suspected terrorist. The foreign nationals had green cards, and thus, had the same protections as American citizens from such scrutiny. I'm sure that bit of history makes all who read it feel VERY comfortable, knowing that legal issues are what helped get 3,000 civillians murdered one sunny Sept. morning in NYC, D.C. and Pennsylvania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 14,547 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 What became of Able Danger? Thanks for asking. The President that you think saved us from an inattentive Bill Clinton was so out-of-touch with the terrorism threat that he canned the program during the first few weeks of his administration TT, President Bush ins't the issue here, so don't try to spin it that way. The real problems here have more to do w/ different agencies in Gov't being incapable,unwilling , or not allowed to share information between each other. It's been well established that the wall of seperation is a problem inherent in the different agencies. But that still does not address the issue as to WHY none of the Able Danger info was included in with the rest of the 9/11 Commission Report. ...the two commission staff members who interviewed the officer in July 2004 concluded his story about a Defense Department intelligence counterterrorism program, called Able Danger, that worked to identify and target al-Qaida and other terrorists, was not credible. As a result, the information was not included in the commission's final report published July 22, 2004. Seems now that the info was more than credible, yet they left it out. Wonder why. Between fall 1999 and early 2000, the intelligence team concluded that Atta, and two others, were likely part of a terrorist cell in Brooklyn.At that point, Able Danger wanted the FBI, assisted by Special Operations Command, to track the group. But to the team's surprise, SOCOM's legal counsel shot down the idea. "I tried to broker meetings between Special Operations and the FBI, but SOCOM's lawyers squashed it," the former defense officials said. According to the former official, the Special Operations attorneys told the team it couldn't perform surveillance on the suspected terrorist. The foreign nationals had green cards, and thus, had the same protections as American citizens from such scrutiny. I'm sure that bit of history makes all who read it feel VERY comfortable, knowing that legal issues are what helped get 3,000 civillians murdered one sunny Sept. morning in NYC, D.C. and Pennsylvania. 193717[/snapback] Do you believe Able Danger was a worthwhile program in the War on Terror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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