StatTiger 3,188 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 The next two games will be "key" in evaluating Brandon Cox as a first year starter but he's been good so far. Here is his QB rating in comparison with other Auburn first year starters at QB: Rating- Player 138.38- Cox 131.55- Slack 130.58- Campbell 128.16- Nix 127.31- Craig 124.03- Cobb 122.07- Burger 114.36- White 114.17- Sullivan 98.47- Leard Career Pass Ratings with other SEC QB's: Rating- Player 163.56- Wuerffel UF 147.85- Campbell 01-04 147.11- Manning UT 146.75- Grossman UF 143.95- Cox 04-05 141.70- Couch UK 139.83- Clausen UT 139.13- Bobo UGA 138.89- Greene UGA 138.61- C.Leak UF 137.66- E.Manning Ole 137.63- Mathews UF 137.09- Zeier UGA 137.09- Bell UF 136.82- Johnson UF 136.32- Hodson LSU 135.71- M. Mauck 133.03- Nix 92-95 132.73- Bert Jones LSU 132.25- Barker Ala 132.17- Burger 84-87 131.70- Slack 86-89 131.47- Sullivan 69-71 131.03- Leard 97-00 130.66- B.Croyle Ala 130.10- Taneyhill USC 129.65- Craig 94-97 127.79- Carter UGA 125.97- Lorenzen UK 125.88- W.Peace UF 125.75- M.Jones ARK 124.12- J. Cutler VAN 124.08- Cobb 00-02 123.90- Stoerner ARK 123.70- S.Spurrier UF 122.95- R.Miller Ole 122.89- Shula Ala 121.82- Hunter Ala 119.47- Taite MSU 118.91- Zow Ala 117.22- Madkin MSU 117.16- Lunney ARK 115.61- K.Page VAN 113.30- Zolman VAN 113.12- Austin OLE 113.00- Taylor VAN 110.51- White 90-93 110.50- Fant MSU 108.09- A.Manning Ole I hope Borges is here for a few more years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,840 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Once again thanks Stat! Baring injury, Brandon Cox is in elite company on this list. Coach Borges has been saying BC would be a great QB before his time is over at AUBURN! WAR EAGLE! Oh boy now the Bammers will be on a rant with this thread since Brodie is so far down the list. 130.66- B.Croyle Ala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecy 3 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Why would they? Stats don't lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexbo 104 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Why would they? Stats don't lie 195487[/snapback] But I think we have caught StatTiger in his first mistake, I am sure that Croyle number should read 230.66, right? I mean he was awarded the Heisman before the year started, certainly someone that great wouldn't be this far down in the SEC, much less the national rankings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Why would they? Stats don't lie 195487[/snapback] But I think we have caught StatTiger in his first mistake, I am sure that Croyle number should read 230.66, right? I mean he was awarded the Heisman before the year started, certainly someone that great wouldn't be this far down in the SEC, much less the national rankings? 195499[/snapback] The only mistake StatTiger made was not factoring in the "if" factor, which as every Bama fan knows, is always important to the truth: "if" Brodie had not played with a sore shoulder for most of 2003, "if" Brodie had not been robbed by refs so many times, "if" Prothro had not been hurt, "if" his receivers had not dropped so many balls in their grasp, etc., etc., etc, then Brodie's numbers would be the proper, pre-ordained 230.66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCWarEagle 4 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 That really is impressive for Cox. As for Croyle, I'll say this. IF Brodie Croyle beats us this year, it won't be so damn funny anymore. With their D, we're gonna have to bring our A game. I think we'll win, but no matter what happens with Bama vs LSU, or AU vs UGA, the Iron Bowl is going to be hard fought this year. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatTiger 3,188 Posted November 6, 2005 Author Share Posted November 6, 2005 That really is impressive for Cox. As for Croyle, I'll say this. IF Brodie Croyle beats us this year, it won't be so damn funny anymore.With their D, we're gonna have to bring our A game. I think we'll win, but no matter what happens with Bama vs LSU, or AU vs UGA, the Iron Bowl is going to be hard fought this year. I 195537[/snapback] I agree. Croyle is dangerous because he will take shots down field. Alabama's defense is good enough to keep us to 13-17 pts so Croyle doesn't have to complete a high pct of passes. If he can hit the big play a few times, their offense will not need to consistently move the ball. Like Dameyune Craig in 1997, our offense did not consistently move the ball but Craig burned opposing defenses with the deep ball. We ( 1997 ) had a defense good enough to keep opponents to 17-20 pts and Craig gave us the ability to make the big play through the passing game. In the games, we could not generate the big play, we nornally ended up on the sort end of the stick. Make no mistake about it, our offense will struggle at times with Alabama's defense and I see a low scoring game. Prior to this weekend, based on scoring margins from both teams, I predicted an Auburn victory over Alabama ( 19-14 ). If we can force Alabama's offense to work for everything they get on offense and limit the big plays, we have a good shot at beating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runswithscissors 33 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 That really is impressive for Cox. As for Croyle, I'll say this. IF Brodie Croyle beats us this year, it won't be so damn funny anymore.With their D, we're gonna have to bring our A game. I think we'll win, but no matter what happens with Bama vs LSU, or AU vs UGA, the Iron Bowl is going to be hard fought this year. I 195537[/snapback] I agree. Croyle is dangerous because he will take shots down field. Alabama's defense is good enough to keep us to 13-17 pts so Croyle doesn't have to complete a high pct of passes. If he can hit the big play a few times, their offense will not need to consistently move the ball. Like Dameyune Craig in 1997, our offense did not consistently move the ball but Craig burned opposing defenses with the deep ball. We ( 1997 ) had a defense good enough to keep opponents to 17-20 pts and Craig gave us the ability to make the big play through the passing game. In the games, we could not generate the big play, we nornally ended up on the sort end of the stick. Make no mistake about it, our offense will struggle at times with Alabama's defense and I see a low scoring game. Prior to this weekend, based on scoring margins from both teams, I predicted an Auburn victory over Alabama ( 19-14 ). If we can force Alabama's offense to work for everything they get on offense and limit the big plays, we have a good shot at beating them. 195608[/snapback] no real secret that the offense isn't clicking. i saw a quote in the paper today where brodie said "i wish we (the offense) could adopt the same attitude as the defense" there is no mistake that the defense is good. in the same article mentioned above, the defense had said that all the offense needs to give them is 3 points, we don't intend on letting LSU score 1 point. while obviously i'm sure LSU will score, i do think this says something about the defensive mindset. shut them down. but boy it sure wouldn't hurt if the offense can score more than 3!!! if they can bring this mindset to Auburn, it should be a really good game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,532 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 That really is impressive for Cox. As for Croyle, I'll say this. IF Brodie Croyle beats us this year, it won't be so damn funny anymore.With their D, we're gonna have to bring our A game. I think we'll win, but no matter what happens with Bama vs LSU, or AU vs UGA, the Iron Bowl is going to be hard fought this year. I 195537[/snapback] I agree. Croyle is dangerous because he will take shots down field. Alabama's defense is good enough to keep us to 13-17 pts so Croyle doesn't have to complete a high pct of passes. If he can hit the big play a few times, their offense will not need to consistently move the ball. Like Dameyune Craig in 1997, our offense did not consistently move the ball but Craig burned opposing defenses with the deep ball. We ( 1997 ) had a defense good enough to keep opponents to 17-20 pts and Craig gave us the ability to make the big play through the passing game. In the games, we could not generate the big play, we nornally ended up on the sort end of the stick. Make no mistake about it, our offense will struggle at times with Alabama's defense and I see a low scoring game. Prior to this weekend, based on scoring margins from both teams, I predicted an Auburn victory over Alabama ( 19-14 ). If we can force Alabama's offense to work for everything they get on offense and limit the big plays, we have a good shot at beating them. 195608[/snapback] no real secret that the offense isn't clicking. i saw a quote in the paper today where brodie said "i wish we (the offense) could adopt the same attitude as the defense" there is no mistake that the defense is good. in the same article mentioned above, the defense had said that all the offense needs to give them is 3 points, we don't intend on letting LSU score 1 point. while obviously i'm sure LSU will score, i do think this says something about the defensive mindset. shut them down. but boy it sure wouldn't hurt if the offense can score more than 3!!! if they can bring this mindset to Auburn, it should be a really good game! 195612[/snapback] The difference is Auburn has a defense AND an offense. uat has NO offense...none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue72 0 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I think it is interesting to compare our performance versus UA in games against our four common opponents. The most surprising is on defense where Auburn has given up 3.5 fewer points per game to those four common opponents! On offense, as expected, AU scored an average of 11.5 more points per game than did UA. The result is an average of 14 points per game better performance against the same four teams! Keep in mind that since most of the UA games were close, their starters played much longer than did the starters for AU. What does this mean? Maybe nothing, but the implication is that AU is 14 points better than UA, at least against the teams that we both have played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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