Bush Stole Our Dreams

[Bottomfeeder 239]

You know ever since 2003, I have been absent of the Amercian Dream. With the events of 911 and the largesse failure we call Homeland Sekurity, these doubts have been compounded. It all started with the theft of the 2000 election and the hopes and dreams of maybe buying a home. We were able to repair our credit and pay off all of our outstanding debt and had money in a saving account in preperation for buying a home. Then 911 and the economy went into a worsening recession. Yea, I know I should have finished school, but with what I do it isn't a necessity. The US, as I knew it, change dramatically. Now after losing everything, we had to rebuild our lives. Now working in the south, it's practically impossible to get ahead. The only thing keeping us ahead is the ability to time the market and make the right plays. Is this anyway to live? Having to depend on market fluctuations to make money when I have a craft the is worth more than $17 per hour? Maybe it's only in the deep south, and isolated to this area of the country, but I'm pissed. The place I grew up hasn't progressed, in least, over the last 30+ years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYcTbJ2oyyU

[Tiger in Spain 0]

[AURaptor 1,113]

It's sad that anyone, especially an AUBURN man, would whine and bitch about their lot in life and try to blame the President for their 'stolen dreams'. Please, you sound pathetic. You, as well as all of us, are the sum results of the choices we've made in our lives. That's a hard bit of reality that too many simply refuse to accept, and instead want to lay their problems at the feet of others.

Just a few words you might want to review , if you can make the time.

AUBURN CREED

I believe that this is a practical world and that I can count

only on what I earn. Therefore, I believe in work, hard work.

I believe in education, which gives me the knowledge to work

wisely and trains my mind and my hands to work skillfully.

I believe in honesty and truthfulness, without which I cannot

win the respect and confidence of my fellow men.

I believe in a sound mind, in a sound body and a spirit that is

not afraid, and in clean sports that develop these qualities.

I believe in obedience to law because it protects the rights of all.

I believe in the human touch, which cultivates sympathy with my

fellow men and mutual helpfulness and brings happiness for all.

I believe in my country, because it is a land of freedom and

because it is my own home, and that I can best serve that

country by doing justly, loving mercy, and walking humbly

with my God.

And because Auburn men and women believe in these things,

I believe in Auburn and love it.

George Petrie

[Tigermike 2,359]

Sometimes a man or woman has to look in the mirror and tell themselves the truth. The truth is, you have a s****y attitude. I'm not taking up for Bush, I'm offering you advice. Stop blaming others for your own failures and short comings, get up off your butt and go to work. If one job does not provide all you need, then get another, if that does not do it, get a third. When a man is paid by the hour, all he has is hours. In other words, work more hours. If your dreams were stolen in the 2000 election, you need to get a life. Had Algore offered you a job in his administration? What were you going to be in charge of in the Gore presidency?

Do you have an anchor tied to your ass? If you can't make enough money where you are, just move. No matter the political party you ascribe to, we live in a nomadic society. Nomadic in that you are free to move, live, work wherever you wish. So get off your ass, stop whining, stop blaming others for your own misfortunes and your own mistakes. Move where you will be happy and where you will make enough money. Or stay where you are and whine. The choice is yours.

[Bottomfeeder 239]

Then do away with the Federal Reserve and the banking system. The effin' control the market. It’s a boom/bust cycle that devastates the average construction worker. Heck, wages suk as it is, and without a degree it is difficult just to get by. You guys have degrees and have no idea what it's like to go without. We were preparing ourselves for homeownership when the governmental controllers drop the bottom out of the market where we resided at that time. Yea, we had to move, and the Bush administration had to create the largest expansion of the federal government just because of 911. His expansion is not doing the job it was created to do. It's an infringement upon my rights to privacy and property, and yours. Just like the IRS and the Federal Reserve, devaluing my labor by inflating the currency, the crooked banks will continue to desecrate apart our constitution. It' crooked and you know it, you just don't feel it because your insulated. Every time I get ahead there is always someone there to knock me down again. Bush is to blame for the escalating deficit and foreign debt he could have stopped once he got into office. Talk about hard work, most of you people have probably never broken a sweat at your job. What do you know about hard work? So long as you get to stay in the AC, you don't give a #### about anyone who has to sweat, do you? It's not the hard work part, it's the low, low wages I have a problem with and the rednecks that are willing to work for peanuts keepin' wages articifially low. LOW WAGES in Alabama! It matters not how much education you have, without the sheepskin, you're nothing.

[Bottomfeeder 239]

Do you have an anchor tied to your ass? If you can't make enough money where you are, just move. No matter the political party you ascribe to, we live in a nomadic society. Nomadic in that you are free to move, live, work wherever you wish. So get off your ass, stop whining, stop blaming others for your own misfortunes and your own mistakes. Move where you will be happy and where you will make enough money. Or stay where you are and whine. The choice is yours.

That's the best advice I have had all week. Yea right, like I'm going to work in another worker's jurisdiction, outside of a union agreement, and undercut what their members fought for, I don't think so (that's what we call wormy or ratty! It's detestable). That's like someone, with same experience and qualifications as you, offering to replace you at your job for less money. How would you feel about that? I'm interest in bustin' the rat contractors in the south, that's all. Bustin' them up. Go on the job and ask their employees why they are willing to work for peanuts. I'm not begging for nothing. And, I'm not one of those kiss### suckpumps.

Now you know why I like cats.

[Bottomfeeder 239]

You must enjoy the low wages that others have to deal with. You say move, I tried that, and that's what caused the problems to begin with, traveling. The money was good while it lasted, then Dubya got in office and secured the money for homeland insecurity, started and unnecessary war to enrich gubermint contractors for services not rendered. Haliburton's stock isn't hurting at all. You know those greedy ex-military types that work for DHS. They aren't happy with their pension levels, so they just suck the treasury dry by continuing to serve in another department that the taxpayers will have to fund. I don't understand how someone with a degree would work to increase the tax burden on ordinary citizens by demanding retirement funds from working people's income through income taxes. This #### has to stop, sooner than later. Then, all of the republican military personnel can fund their own damn retirement just like everyone else.

[Tiger in Spain 0]

And sitting back waiting on the big union to keep you employed is any different? Maybe that is the root of the problem you're experiencing. You have allowed yourself to become so dependent on union handouts that you can't function in society now that the cash cow has dried up. To me, you sounds no different than those who mooch off welfare. Have some pride, man. This is a test. Either be a man about it and pick yourself up off the ground and dust yourself off, or get used to eating spam sandwiches with your Budweiser guzzling, Bama rooting workmates.

[Bottomfeeder 239]

Dude I'm not a union member any longer. Though the wages were much better than rats. And the rats will get you killed. I'm not going to risk my @$$ around a bunch of Bud Guzzling rednecks (95% of those rednecks can't even read, much less do a load calculation on a highrise). I'm going back to the union hall where safety and craftsmanship still matter. I have never been on welfare, and I'm not claiming unemployment. So what's your problem? I just want to raise the wages of working folks. Do you have a problem with that? Are you tired of reading my complaints about the poverty among those who earn a living by the sweat of their brows? What? What's the problem? You know it's true, people who work for a living in the south are screwed. I think it's just high time we did something about it, and this is one of my contributions. I'll be hand-billing WALMART next week, wanna help?

http://www.ibew136.org

[AURaptor 1,113]

I just want to raise the wages of working folks.

BF, since you've got the WHINE, may I suggest something to go along with it ?

[Bottomfeeder 239]

I just want to raise the wages of working folks.

BF, since you've got the WHINE, may I suggest something to go along with it ?

Another cheap-labor conservative I see.

[Ranger12 41]

I have been out of work for over a year because of medical problems, but instead of whining about it, I went back to school. Wow, seems my dream is still alive. At the age of 32, I have went back to school to get my engineering degree, starting from scratch at that. I have qualified for a Pell Grant and do not have to pay for my school. Wow, my dreams are so dashed because of Bush.

You are who you make yourself to be. No sitting President can take that from you. More money is available for Pell Grants and etc, then there has been in along time. If you do a job search in the North Alabama area for technical and engineering jobs, you should not have a problem finding those jobs if you made the effort to get degrees in those areas. I have no sympathy for somebody that gets a degree in an area that does not have alot of openings. A person should go to school to do what the want to do, but they also need to know what the job market for their major is like also. When you know the job market is not good, I don't want to hear you griping when you graduate about not being able to find a job. Too many also want to stay around home instead of going where the jobs and the money are at.

I guess you would rather that appeasement President was in the White House and would prefer that we be fighting Al-Qeada on U.S. soil everyday. Bush has kept this country secure and the economy strong during one of the most hostile and toughest administrations any President has had since probably the Vietnam War. With an appeasement president, your dreams would be stolen for sure.

[AURaptor 1,113]

Another cheap-labor conservative I see

BF, you're such a tool. Someone tells you that an IT job should pay 6 figures, and you buy it. Then someone says they'll do the job for 1/2 that, and you scream bloody murder that a corp. would DARE spend less $$ for the same work done.

What you call 'cheap labor', everyone else calls FREE MARKET. I'm sure your commie friends in the Unions have drilled it into your head that freedom is a four letter word.

[Bottomfeeder 239]

I have been out of work for over a year because of medical problems, but instead of whining about it, I went back to school. Wow, seems my dream is still alive. At the age of 32, I have went back to school to get my engineering degree, starting from scratch at that. I have qualified for a Pell Grant and do not have to pay for my school. Wow, my dreams are so dashed because of Bush.

You are who you make yourself to be. No sitting President can take that from you. More money is available for Pell Grants and etc, then there has been in along time. If you do a job search in the North Alabama area for technical and engineering jobs, you should not have a problem finding those jobs if you made the effort to get degrees in those areas. I have no sympathy for somebody that gets a degree in an area that does not have alot of openings. A person should go to school to do what the want to do, but they also need to know what the job market for their major is like also. When you know the job market is not good, I don't want to hear you griping when you graduate about not being able to find a job. Too many also want to stay around home instead of going where the jobs and the money are at.

I guess you would rather that appeasement President was in the White House and would prefer that we be fighting Al-Qeada on U.S. soil everyday. Bush has kept this country secure and the economy strong during one of the most hostile and toughest administrations any President has had since probably the Vietnam War. With an appeasement president, your dreams would be stolen for sure.

When I went to school I could not get a Pell grant because I had some lousy VA benefits that paid $300 a month max (VEAP - 1/3 of which was my contribution), and I had to get loans to pay the rest. I also worked full time during most of my college experience, just like most of the old-timers here. I'm in my mid-forties and have about 1.5 years left in Electrical Engineering. Finishing my degree is not an option, but instead a necessity. Thanks for the reminder. Wages still suck badly in the south, why I don't know, but they are pitiful (and forget about REAL benefits). I have been injured on the job, but unlike most everyone else I know I didn't sue because I think it's wrong. There was no reason to sue, it's just something that happened and now I'm permanently affected. Not completely disabled, but affected. I don't see a reason to sue someone and take away what he or she has worked a lifetime to attain. I just don't accept that, therefore I'll continue to pursue those things I set out to attain whatever that is, now. I think workers in the south deserve more money that what is presently offered. More like $50+ an hour and double time over 40 hours, and if we can't do it forty then hire more people. Otherwise stay out of my weekend. People died in Chicago for the eight-hour workday, and I won't let anyone forget that. I hate working overtime it's a punishment.

BTW - What kind of work did you do?

[Bottomfeeder 239]

Another cheap-labor conservative I see

BF, you're such a tool. Someone tells you that an IT job should pay 6 figures, and you buy it. Then someone says they'll do the job for 1/2 that, and you scream bloody murder that a corp. would DARE spend less $$ for the same work done.

What you call 'cheap labor', everyone else calls FREE MARKET. I'm sure your commie friends in the Unions have drilled it into your head that freedom is a four letter word.

The free market is just slogan that really means equal wages worldwide. Not everyone in India has a mortgage, utility bills, etc. South Koreans, for the most part, don't even have indoor plumbing. Things cost more here because of the printing press call the Federal Reserve, inflation. Wages are suppose to keep up with that. Conservatives, like myself, don't want mortgages. We instead, want the ability to pay off a home in a matter of three years, then sell and move into a bigger home if need be. Today people want to see how much they can borrow to keep up with the Jones'. I don't. I just want the simple life that comes with wealth or absence of debt.

[Tigermike 2,359]

Do you have an anchor tied to your ass? If you can't make enough money where you are, just move. No matter the political party you ascribe to, we live in a nomadic society. Nomadic in that you are free to move, live, work wherever you wish. So get off your ass, stop whining, stop blaming others for your own misfortunes and your own mistakes. Move where you will be happy and where you will make enough money. Or stay where you are and whine. The choice is yours.

That's the best advice I have had all week. Yea right, like I'm going to work in another worker's jurisdiction, outside of a union agreement, and undercut what their members fought for, I don't think so (that's what we call wormy or ratty! It's detestable). That's like someone, with same experience and qualifications as you, offering to replace you at your job for less money. How would you feel about that? I'm interest in bustin' the rat contractors in the south, that's all. Bustin' them up. Go on the job and ask their employees why they are willing to work for peanuts. I'm not begging for nothing. And, I'm not one of those kiss### suckpumps.

Now you know why I like cats.

"another worker's jurisdiction,"

Dude this is not the Soviet Union, China or Cuba. You can move if you want and the workers in another jurisdiction will not mind in the least bit. That is until they hear the non stop whining and bitching. I have worked out of a union hall before and I know how it works. So your whineyass BS does not fly. I have worked all over this country and never once was I undercutting what anyone else could get. There are union jobs going on all over, you just have to get off your lazy butt and go to work. But it is much easier to blame the president, congress, non union workers or the garbage man. Anyone but yourself. I have also worked non union jobs and made a hell of a lot more money and didn't have to pay dues to the fat cat mafia boys.

Instead of whining about what you are not making, ask your union bosses if they do without? That is ask them if you can get past the maitre d'.

[AURaptor 1,113]

I just want the simple life that comes with wealth or absence of debt.

Ever thought of buying an RV?

[keoson7 28]

BF,

I know you may be discouraged, but if you want the gold you've got to cut out the middleman. Sure the price of everything has gone up,except wages. I know how you feel,but to blame Bush? Unless he told your boss to fire your lazy a$$ he isn't to blame. Construction is now and always will be, a feast or famine environment. I would love for all my jobs to have A/C, but they don't. All I do is set my own hours and get paid by PRODUCTION. I don't have a nest egg for a rainy day, my wife can't work, and i feed a boatload of pets and kids. All those things I brought on myself and I just bite the bullet and TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS. Start your own service, gouge the heck out of people and live happily ever after.STOP WHINING.

[Bottomfeeder 239]

Start your own service, gouge the heck out of people and live happily ever after.STOP WHINING.

That's what's up. I like the way you put that. Thank you.

BF

[CCTAU 2,061]

There's always the dog track, and you live close enough to the the Florida state line that you can play the lottery weekly. If this sounds a bit absurd, then, to me, I find it just as absurd to play the stock market on a daily basis. Dogs 11, 3 , an 8 in the fourth race.

[Bottomfeeder 239]

There's always the dog track, and you live close enough to the the Florida state line that you can play the lottery weekly. If this sounds a bit absurd, then, to me, I find it just as absurd to play the stock market on a daily basis. Dogs 11, 3 , an 8 in the fourth race.

I never had luck at the track,and that was years ago. The options market is a very easy play with little downside risk.