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They just reported on Sports Call that TD has a toe injury, and its suspected to be turf toe. Not good for our return game. Anybody hear any more details than that?

phillip marshall says its plagued him all week and he'll sit out the scrimmage tomorrow.

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Posted by Phillip Marshall, The Huntsville Times August 10, 2007 7:47 PM

AUBURN - What was thought to be turf toe turned out to be something significantly worse for Auburn's Tristan Davis.

Davis, a junior who led the nation in kickoff returns last season, has a broken toe and will be out 4-6 weeks, Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville confirmed Friday night. Davis limped off the practice field Wednesday. X-rays showed a break that will require surgery.

Auburn coaches hope he will return no later than the third game of the season against Mississippi State.

Davis moved from safety to tailback before spring practice. He was having an effective summer camp before the injury and was expected to get considerable playing time.

Last season, he returned 28 kickoffs for 756 yards, an average of 27 yards per return.

PChamp119 Founding Father

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I hope he heals fast - we can definately use him.

I had surgery on my toe once - they removed part of the tendon and took out some bone. I was in a cast for 2 weeks and could run 2 weeks after that. Why is this injury so significant that it takes 4-6 weeks to heal. I mean, I know we all like the big toe, but I don't get it

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Okay that just plain out sucks! Every time he touched the ball on those kickoff returns, I was anticipating him to run it all the way back.

It most be pretty bad if it requires surgery. I broke my big toe my sophomore year in high school, but was only out a couple of weeks. What exactly is turf toe anyway?

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I hope he heals fast - we can definately use him.

I had surgery on my toe once - they removed part of the tendon and took out some bone. I was in a cast for 2 weeks and could run 2 weeks after that. Why is this injury so significant that it takes 4-6 weeks to heal. I mean, I know we all like the big toe, but I don't get it

Every case is different. You sound like you were fortunate to have a quick recovery. My dad had a similar surgery where they removed a piece of chipped bone and shaved off some bone, and he still has pains in his foot. His surgery was back in February.

In some ways however, it might be better that its broken and isn't turf toe. He has the possibility of it healing and getting back to 100% by seasons end, but turf toe would plague him until January. Maybe he'll get a medical red shirt out of it and have the opportunity to play one more year. I think he'd benefit greatly from that.

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What exactly is turf toe anyway?

Its like a really bad jammed or dislocated toe. The joint gets damaged. It has a tendency to slow players down considerably.

From Wikipedia:

Turf toe, more properly known as a metatarsalphalangeal joint sprain, is an injury to the joint and connective tissue between the foot and one of the toes, usually the big toe. Turf toe is named from the injury being associated with playing sports on rigid surfaces such as artificial turf and is a fairly common injury among professional American football players.

Often, the injury occurs when someone or something falls on the back of the calf while that leg's knee and tips of the toes are touching the ground. The toe is hyperextended and thus the joint is injured. Additionally, athletic shoes that tend to have very flexible soles combined with cleats that "grab" the turf will cause overextension of the big toe. It should be noted that this can occur on the lesser toes as well.

The injury can be debilitating for athletes who need to accelerate or 'cut' quickly. Use of the toes is not possible during the healing process. Since the toes are necessary for proper push-off when accelerating, those sorts of athletic activities can be almost completely curtailed. A healing period of one or more months is often required.

Because of the anatomy of the distal foot and the unique use of the foot, it is often impossible to properly tape or brace the joint. Although difficult, it is not impossible to tape the toe to limit dorsiflexion (upward bend of toe). Additionally, wearing a shoe with a rigid sole and cushioned innersole will help. Anti-inflammatory medication as well as physical therapy is indicated.

Turf toe can often progress into a chronic problem, in which the joint(s) never really heals or heals too slowly to return to usual physical activities.

Turf toe can become more serious if left untreated.

Deion Sanders was plagued with this injury throughout his career, with serious reductions in playing time resulting near the end of his football career.

A bad case of Turf Toe ended former Pittsburgh Steeler Jack Lambert's career in 1984.

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What exactly is turf toe anyway?

Its like a really bad jammed or dislocated toe. The joint gets damaged. It has a tendency to slow players down considerably.

From Wikipedia:

Turf toe, more properly known as a metatarsalphalangeal joint sprain, is an injury to the joint and connective tissue between the foot and one of the toes, usually the big toe. Turf toe is named from the injury being associated with playing sports on rigid surfaces such as artificial turf and is a fairly common injury among professional American football players.

Often, the injury occurs when someone or something falls on the back of the calf while that leg's knee and tips of the toes are touching the ground. The toe is hyperextended and thus the joint is injured. Additionally, athletic shoes that tend to have very flexible soles combined with cleats that "grab" the turf will cause overextension of the big toe. It should be noted that this can occur on the lesser toes as well.

The injury can be debilitating for athletes who need to accelerate or 'cut' quickly. Use of the toes is not possible during the healing process. Since the toes are necessary for proper push-off when accelerating, those sorts of athletic activities can be almost completely curtailed. A healing period of one or more months is often required.

Because of the anatomy of the distal foot and the unique use of the foot, it is often impossible to properly tape or brace the joint. Although difficult, it is not impossible to tape the toe to limit dorsiflexion (upward bend of toe). Additionally, wearing a shoe with a rigid sole and cushioned innersole will help. Anti-inflammatory medication as well as physical therapy is indicated.

Turf toe can often progress into a chronic problem, in which the joint(s) never really heals or heals too slowly to return to usual physical activities.

Turf toe can become more serious if left untreated.

Deion Sanders was plagued with this injury throughout his career, with serious reductions in playing time resulting near the end of his football career.

A bad case of Turf Toe ended former Pittsburgh Steeler Jack Lambert's career in 1984.

Specifically, its a hyperextended toe. Thats why they put a plate in the sole of the shoe because it distributes the stress to all the foot and toes rather than all the pressure pushing up on the big toe. Its one of those nagging injuries that is extremely painful if you've never had it. It hurts when you push off in your stride to run or cut, and when that pain hits you your reflex is to protect that toe and so you cut and push off gingerly, hence, why its such an issue for RB's and anyone in a skill position.

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So which actually is more likely to heal quickly, Turf Toe or an actual break? I know last year Kenny never really managed to get his turf toe back to 100%, but that may have been because he never got the chance to actually sit out a few games and heal. Certainly after a real break and surgery, TD will get complete down time to heal.

Still, I expected TD to have a great year returning kickoffs (particularly with the new 30-yard-line kickoff rule! ). Hope he heals fast and is back to 100% for the heart of the season.

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In my personal (and medical) opinion, a broken toe is better than turf toe--

Turf toe never seems to heal well and plagues a person until he/she stops stressing the joint. With a break, you fix it, it heals...good stuff. He'll be back for S. Florida.

We should have our old field goal friend Dr. Lyle weigh in on this one since he's an Ortho now.

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Yeah, I agree, I think turf toe is kinda like ankles where you say a bad sprain may be worse than an actual fracture.

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I hope he heals fast - we can definately use him.

I had surgery on my toe once - they removed part of the tendon and took out some bone. I was in a cast for 2 weeks and could run 2 weeks after that. Why is this injury so significant that it takes 4-6 weeks to heal. I mean, I know we all like the big toe, but I don't get it

If someone loses a big toe to frostbite or something they have to teach themselves to walk all over again. Walk around the room and make yourself conscious of just how much you uise it to balance youself and such.

Thats why shaq referred to himself as the big toe one time, lol. It is crucial.

Hopefully it will heal as quickly as possible.

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When I broke my big toe, it did heal pretty quick. However, there was no way I was running on that bad boy, especially that first week.

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Tristan Davis' Facebook Status right now says

"Ya Boi is in surgery, Pray for him"

I am....hope he heals fast.

I realize that he's hurt, but how can you help not laughing at that?

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Tristan Davis' Facebook Status right now says

"Ya Boi is in surgery, Pray for him"

I am....hope he heals fast.

I realize that he's hurt, but how can you help not laughing at that?

Why? What is there to laugh about?

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It could be medical reasons, but my guess is they will extend the time he is out so that he has enough time to recover for the Florida game. 4-6 Weeks brings him back for MSU. We won't need Tristan then, but we know what he can do to Florida :D

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Anybody who has HAD even a moderate case of turf toe knows a broken toe..even a bad compund fracture like I've had... is NOT "significantly worse" than turf toe. Having had both more than once, I can tell you a broken toe heals so you can make cuts and stop w/ it in 6-8 weeks. Turf toe is an inflamed tendon that can take months, even years to heal. Sometimes its just chronic and never totally heals. Even w/ the roids every Div. 1 football team has floating around, TD could have it injected and still not be cutting w/out significant pain for the rest of the season.

In this day & age, w/ articial turf's "stop on a dime" problems a thing of the past, I'd do some serious questioning of the equipment manager's choice of shoes & shoe sizes for the athletes.

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