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Has anybody seen this? CFN hasn't been kind to AU so far this preseason, but this was cool to see:

http://cfn.scout.com/2/662748.html

I don't think CFN has been unkind. I just think they're trying to be objective, knowing that we have an untested unit in our OL.

Interesting Find. The Elite wins definitely shows that Auburn can play with the big boys - as stated that AU has more than anyone else (1 more than USC and 4 over anyone else).

I do find it hard to believe that our boys have only averaged 4 wins a year against teams with a winning record.

Good Find.

3. Auburn

Score: 85.16

2006 Ranking: 9 2005 Ranking: 12

2004 Ranking: 17 2003 Ranking: 17

Program Analysis: Others might have more wins, and others have more Quality Wins, but the Elite Win Score of eight is one better than USC, and four more than anyone else. This team brings it against the best. Just as impressive is the top APR Score; this team brings it in the classroom, too. Unfortunately, the ranking might go down after losing the 13-0 2004 season in the equation next year.

Attendance Score: 8.41

2006: 85,063 2005: 84,161 2004: 83,085

APR Score: 10

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 31

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 12

2006: LSU, at South Carolina, Florida, Nebraska (Cotton Bowl)

2005: South Carolina, at Georgia, Alabama

2004: LSU, at Tennessee, Georgia, Tennessee (SEC Championship), Virginia Tech (Sugar Bowl)

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 14

2007: OG Ben Grubbs, RB Kenny Irons, LB Wil Herring, DB David Irons, WR Courtney Taylor

2006: OT Marcus McNeil, WR Devin Aromashodu, DE Stanley McClover, WR Ben Obamanu

2005: RB Ronnie Brown, RB Carnell Williams, DB Carlos Rogers, QB Jason Campbell, DE Jay Ratliff

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 8.75

Elite Win Score: 8 2006: LSU, Florida 2005: at Georgia, Alabama 2004: at Tennessee, Georgia, Tennessee (SEC Championship), Virginia Tech (Sugar

Beat me to it. Interesting article. I also noted that Florida is 6, Georigia is 7 and LSU is 10. SEC brings it year after year.

I was particularly proud of our Academic Performance Rate of 10! Tub has our boys doing well on the field and off.

As noted, next year we will probably drop b/c our 13-0 season in 2004 will drop off. I don't see us repeating that kind of success this year, but if we get a little help, maybe we can take an SEC title. (I think we will be 9-3 this year, but you never know).

Has anybody seen this? CFN hasn't been kind to AU so far this preseason, but this was cool to see:

http://cfn.scout.com/2/662748.html

I don't think CFN has been unkind. I just think they're trying to be objective, knowing that we have an untested unit in our OL.

Fair 'nuff

Seems fair. They should add a draft weight to the list of NFL players. If you went in the first round you get a 10 second a 9 and so on. Then divide by 7 (7 rounds right?)

http://cfn.scout.com/2/662751.html

WOW, just Wow! But according to Finebaum we hate CTT...

Three Year Program Analysis

Teams 1 to 10

Program Rankings

Scoring System

11 to 25 | 26 to 39

40 to 59 | 60 to 79 |

80 to 99 | 100 to 119

By Category

APR | Attendance

Bad Losses

Best Leagues

By Conference

Conf. Win %

Draft | Elite Wins

Quality Wins | D-I Wins

Quick Explanation of Scores

- Attendance: Home attendance average over the last three years divided by 10,000. Avg. Score: 4.32

- APR: The most recently released Academic Performance Rate. Avg. Score: 5.66

- Quality Wins: Wins over D-I teams that finished with a winning record. Avg. Score: 5.56

- Total Wins: Wins over D-I teams. Avg. Score: 17.13

- Players Drafted: Number of players drafted divided by two. Avg. Score: 5.85

- Conference Win %: Conference winning percentage times 10. Avg. Score: 5.00

- Elite Wins: Wins over D-I teams that finished with two losses or fewer, or on the road over teams that finished with three losses or fewer. Add an additional 0.5 for an Elite Win over a two-loss team on the road. Avg. Score: 0.80

- Bad Losses: Losses to teams that finished with four wins or fewer, or any loss to a non-D-I team. Subtract each loss from the overall total. Subtract an additional 0.5 for each bad loss at home. Avg. Score: 1.22

- Detailed Explanation of the Scoring System and Categories

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10. LSU

Score: 76.08

2006 Ranking: 3 2005 Ranking: 10

2004 Ranking: 7 2003 Ranking: 16

Program Analysis: It seems like LSU should be higher, but it loses its national title-winning 13-1 2003 season in this year's equation. If the 2007 team is as good as expected, the ranking will only go way up, especially considering only three players were taken in the 2005 draft class. The 30 D-I wins are great, and winning 79% of SEC games is as impressive as it gets. Expect a top five slot next year.

Attendance Score: 9.17

2006: 92,212 2005: 91,580 2004: 91,209

APR Score: 6

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 30

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 12

2006: Kentucky, at Tennessee, Arkansas (SEC Championship), Notre Dame (Sugar Bowl)

2005: Arizona State, Florida, Auburn, at Alabama, Miami (Peach Bowl)

2004: Oregon State, at Florida, Troy

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 15

2007: QB JaMarcus Russell, DB LaRon Landry, WR Dwayne Bowe, WR Craig David, DE Chase Pittman

2006: RB Joseph Addai, OT Andrew Whitworth, DT Claude Wroten, WR Skyler Green, DT Kyle Williams, DE Melvin Oliver, WR Bennie Brazell

2005: DE Marcus Spears, DB Corey Webster, DB Travis Daniels

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 7.92

Elite Win Score: 3.5 2006: Notre Dame (Sugar Bowl) 2005: at Alabama 2004: Miami (Peach Bowl)

Bad Losses: 0

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9. Michigan

Score: 76.48

2006 Ranking: 8 2005 Ranking: 6

2004 Ranking: 8 2003 Ranking: 10

Program Analysis: Michigan joins Oklahoma, Ohio State and Georgia as one of just four teams to be in the top ten in each of the last five years. While the Wolverines might not have a win over Ohio State or in a bowl game over the last three seasons, the Attendance Score is still the best, the APR is fantastic, and winning 79% of Big Ten games doesn't hurt. Now the Wolverine fans want more Elite Wins.

Attendance Score: 11.07

2006: 110,026 2005: 110,915 2004: 111,025

APR Score: 8

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 27

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 12

2006: Central Michigan, at Notre Dame, Wisconsin, at Penn State

2005: Northern Illinois, Penn State, at Iowa, at Northwestern

2004: Miami University, Iowa, Minnesota, at Purdue

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 13

2007: DB Leon Hall, DT Alan Branch, DE LaMarr Woodley, LB David Harris, WR Steve Breaston, LB Prescott Burgess, TE Tyler Ecker

2006: DT Gabe Watson, WR Jason Avant, TE Tim Massaquoi

2005: WR Braylon Edwards, DB Marlin Jackson, C David Baas

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 7.92

Elite Win Score: 4 2006: at Notre Dame, Wisconsin 2005: Penn State 2004: Iowa

Bad Losses: 0

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8. Virginia Tech

Score: 76.88

2006 Ranking: 12 2005 Ranking: 15

2004 Ranking: 20 2003 Ranking: 15

Program Analysis: After years of being among the nation's most dangerous teams, Virginia Tech enters the top ten for the first time thanks to 29 wins, 15 Quality Wins, and by winning an impressive 83% in ACC play. The Attendance Score is the lowest in the top ten by far, and might always put a ceiling on how high the ranking can get. While the Draft Score is solid, most of it comes from a great 2006 class.

Attendance Score: 6.55

2006: 66,233 2005: 65,115 2004: 65,115

APR Score: 6

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 29

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 15

2006: Cincinnati, Southern Miss, Clemson, at Miami, at Wake Forest

2005: at NC State, Georgia Tech, at West Virginia, Boston College, at Virginia, Louisville (Gator Bowl)

2004: West Virginia, at Georgia Tech, Virginia, at Miami

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 15

2007: DB Aaron Rouse, WR David Clowney, OT Brandon Frye

2006: WR Jimmy Williams, DE Darryl Tapp, LB James Anderson, TE Jeff King, DT Jon Lewis, DB Justin Hamilton, C Jimmy Martin, OG Will Montgomery, RB Cedric Humes

2005: DB Eric Green, DB Vincent Fuller, OT Jon Dunn

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 8.33

Elite Win Score: 4.5 2006: at Wake Forest 2005: at West Virginia, Louisville (Gator Bowl) 2004: at Miami

Bad Losses: 0

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7. Georgia

Score: 76.94

2006 Ranking: 6 2005 Ranking: 4

2004 Ranking: 3 2003 Ranking: 6

Program Analysis: When you win 44 games in four years, your ranking will be fantastic. Everything is rock solid across the board with great Attendance and APR Scores, an excellent Draft Score, and a great conference winning percentage. It's a razor-thin margin between being a top five team and being on just on the outside, and the difference was the Quality Win and Elite Wins Scores. One more big win (like in the Sugar Bowl last year against West Virginia) and the Dawgs would've been fifth.

Attendance Score: 9.27

2006: 92,746 2005: 92,701 2004: 92,706

APR Score: 8

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 27

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 13

2006: at South Carolina, at Auburn, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech (Chick-Fil-A Bowl)

2005: Boise State, South Carolina, at Georgia Tech, LSU (SEC Championship)

2004: at South Carolina, LSU, Florida, Georgia Tech, Wisconsin (Outback Bowl)

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 17

2007: DE Quentin Moses, DE Charles Johnson, TE Martrez Milner, OT Ken Shackleford

2006: DB Tim Jennings, TE Leonard Pope, OG Max Jean-Gilles, DB Greg Blue, DB DeMario Minter, DT Kedric Golston, QB D.J. Shockley,

2005: DB Thomas Davis, DE David Pollack, WR Reggie Brown, LB Odell Thurman, QB David Greene, WR Fred Gibson

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 6.67

Elite Win Score: 4.5 2006: at Auburn, Virginia Tech (Chick-Fil-A Bowl) 2005: LSU (SEC Championship) 2004: Wisconsin (Outback Bowl)

Bad Losses: 0

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6. Florida

Score: 77.64

2006 Ranking: 14 2005 Ranking: 17

2004 Ranking: 6 2003 Ranking: 4

Program Analysis: Win a national title, move up in the rankings. It's not hard to figure out that the Gators were going to make a monster jump, and it should only be better next year when the 7-5 2004 season, complete with a Bad Loss to Mississippi State, is out of the equation. Basically, the chapter on the Ron Zook era will come to a close. Also of note is how the Gators are getting it done in the classroom with a lofty APR.

Attendance Score: 8.97

2006: 90,409 2005: 90,406 2004: 88,409

APR Score: 9

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 28

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 15

2006: Southern Miss, at Tennessee, Kentucky, LSU, Georgia, South Carolina, at Florida State, Arkansas (SEC Championship), Ohio State (BCS Championship)

2005: Louisiana Tech, Georgia, Florida State, Iowa (Outback Bowl)

2004: South Carolina, at Florida State

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 15

2007: DE Jarvis Moss, DB Reggie Nelson, DT Ray McDonald, DT Marcus Thomas, DT Joe Cohen, DB Ryan Smith, WR Dallas Baker, RB DeShawn Wynn, LB Brandon Siler

2006: WR Chad Jackson, DE Jeremy Mincey, DB Demetrice Webb

2005: LB Channing Crowder, RB Ciatrick Fason, DB Reynaldo Hill

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 6.67

Elite Win Score: 3.5 2006: LSU, Ohio State (BCS Championship) 2005: at Florida State

Bad Losses: 1 2004: at Mississippi State

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5. Ohio State

Score: 80.42

2006 Ranking: 7 2005 Ranking: 3

2004 Ranking: 2 2003 Ranking: 7

Program Analysis: The big 11-2 2003 season didn't count towards this year's ranking, but a run to the 2007 BCS Championship game helped put the Buckeyes back into the top five. Outside of an average APR Score, there isn't a dud number in any category, The Attendance Score is a whopper, the Draft Score is unbelievable, considering only three Buckeyes were drafted in 2005, and there are lots and lots of wins.

Attendance Score: 10.5

2006: 105,096 2005: 105,017 2004: 104,876

APR Score: 5

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 30

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 14

2006: Northern Illinois, at Texas, Cincinnati, Penn State, Michigan

2005: Miami University, Iowa, at Minnesota, Northwestern, at Michigan, Notre Dame (Fiesta Bowl)

2004: Cincinnati, Michigan, Oklahoma State (Alamo Bowl)

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 20

2007: WR Ted Ginn, WR Anthony Gonzalez, DT Quinn Pitcock, RB Antonio Pittman, DE Jay Richardson, WR Roy Hall, QB Troy Smith, C Doug Datish

2006: LB A.J. Hawk, DB Donte Whitner, LB Bobby Carpenter, WR Santonio Holmes, C Nick Mangold, DB Ashton Youboty, LB Anthony Schlegel, DB Nate Salley, OG Rob Sims

2005: PK Mike Nugent, DB Dustin Fox, RB Maurice Clarett

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 7.92

Elite Win Score: 3 2006: at Texas, Michigan 2005: Notre Dame (Fiesta Bowl)

Bad Losses: 0

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4. Oklahoma

Score: 81.70

2006 Ranking: 4 2005 Ranking: 2

2004 Ranking: 4 2003 Ranking: 3

Program Analysis: Another year, another season in the top four of the rankings. No one else can claim that. Not USC. Not Texas. No one. The numbers are solid all across the board, but it might take another huge season to stay among the best of the best after losing the 12-1 season from the books next year. Also gone will be a monstrous 2005 draft class, and after only having three players picked last year.

Attendance Score: 8.45

2006: 84,561 2005: 84,331 2004: 84,532

APR Score: 5

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 31

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 16

2006: Middle Tennessee, at Missouri, at Texas A&M, Texas Tech, at Oklahoma State, Nebraska (Big 12 Championship)

2005: Tulsa, Kansas, at Nebraska, Oregon (Holiday Bowl)

2004: Bowling Green, Texas Tech, Texas, at Oklahoma State, at Texas A&M, Colorado (Big 12 Championship)

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 20

2007: RB Adrian Peterson, LB Rufus Alexander, DE C.J. Ah You

2006: OG Davin Joseph, C Chris Chester, DT Dusty Dvoracek, WR Travis Wilson, LB Clint Ingram, RB J.D. Runnels

2005: OT Jammal Brown, WR Mark Clayton, DB Brodney Pool, WR Mark Bradley, DE Dan Cody, WR Brandon Jones, DB Antonio Perkins, DB Donte Nicholson, DB Michael Hawkins, LB Lance Mitchell, OG Wes Sims

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 8.75

Elite Win Score: 2.5 2005: Oregon (Holiday Bowl) 2004: Texas

Bad Losses: 0

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3. Auburn

Score: 85.16

2006 Ranking: 9 2005 Ranking: 12

2004 Ranking: 17 2003 Ranking: 17

Program Analysis: Others might have more wins, and others have more Quality Wins, but the Elite Win Score of eight is one better than USC, and four more than anyone else. This team brings it against the best. Just as impressive is the top APR Score; this team brings it in the classroom, too. Unfortunately, the ranking might go down after losing the 13-0 2004 season in the equation next year.

Attendance Score: 8.41

2006: 85,063 2005: 84,161 2004: 83,085

APR Score: 10

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 31

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 12

2006: LSU, at South Carolina, Florida, Nebraska (Cotton Bowl)

2005: South Carolina, at Georgia, Alabama

2004: LSU, at Tennessee, Georgia, Tennessee (SEC Championship), Virginia Tech (Sugar Bowl)

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 14

2007: OG Ben Grubbs, RB Kenny Irons, LB Wil Herring, DB David Irons, WR Courtney Taylor

2006: OT Marcus McNeil, WR Devin Aromashodu, DE Stanley McClover, WR Ben Obamanu

2005: RB Ronnie Brown, RB Carnell Williams, DB Carlos Rogers, QB Jason Campbell, DE Jay Ratliff

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 8.75

Elite Win Score: 8 2006: LSU, Florida 2005: at Georgia, Alabama 2004: at Tennessee, Georgia, Tennessee (SEC Championship), Virginia Tech (Sugar Bowl)

Bad Losses: 0

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2. Texas

Score: 87.25

2006 Ranking: 2 2005 Ranking: 9

2004 Ranking: 11 2003 Ranking: 13

Program Analysis: For the second straight season, Texas is number two by a comfortable margin. The 20 Quality Wins blows everyone else away, with three more than USC, and the 33 overall wins are better than everyone but Pete Carroll's bunch. The APR should probably be better for such a great school, and the Draft Score is just above-average compared to the other top teams.

Attendance Score: 8.50

2006: 88,505 2005: 83,333 2004: 83,094

APR Score: 5

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 33

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 20

2006: Rice, Oklahoma, at Nebraska, at Texas Tech, Oklahoma State

2005: UL Lafayette, at Ohio State, at Missouri, Oklahoma, Colorado, Texas Tech, Kansas, Colorado (Big 12 Championship), USC (Rose Bowl)

2004: North Texas, at Texas Tech, at Colorado, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Michigan (Rose Bowl)

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 16

2007: DB Michael Griffin, DB Aaron Ross, OT Justin Blalock, DE TIm Crowder, DE Brian Robison, DB Tarell Brown, OG Kasey Studdard

2006: QB Vince Young, DB Michael Huff, DB Cedric Griffin, TE Dave Thomas, OT Jonathan Scott, DT Rodrique Wright

2005: RB Cedric Benson, LB Derrick Johnson, TE Bo Scaife

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 8.75

Elite Win Score: 4 2005: at Ohio State, USC (Rose Bowl) 2004: Michigan (Rose Bowl)

Bad Losses: 0

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1. USC

Score: 94.12

2006 Ranking: 1 2005 Ranking: 1

2004 Ranking: 10 2003 Ranking: 24

Program Analysis: Make it three straight years for the Men of Troy, and once again, it's not even close with a whopping 6.87 points ahead of No. 2 Texas. Going 36-3 over a three-year span certainly makes the rating high, and as expected, the fans have starting showing up more and more. Fine, so the APR is average, but everything else is unbelievable. Only Florida State has had as many drafted players over the last three years, Only Texas has more Quality Wins, only Auburn has a better Elite Win score, and no one has more wins.

Attendance Score: 8.92

2006: 91,480 2005: 90,812 2004: 85,229

APR Score: 5

Total D-I Wins from 2004-2006: 36

Quality Wins from 2004-2006: 17

2006: at Arkansas, Nebraska, Arizona State, Oregon, California, Notre Dame, Michigan (Rose Bowl)

2005: at Oregon, at Arizona State, at Notre Dame, at California, Fresno State, UCLA

2004: Virginia Tech, California, Arizona State, at Oregon State, Oklahoma (Orange Bowl)

Players Drafted Score from 2004-2007: 22

2007: WR Dwayne Jarrett, WR Steve Smith, C Ryan Kalil, LB Dallas Sartz, LB Oscar Lua

2006: RB Reggie Bush, QB Matt Leinart, OT Winston Justice, OG Taitusi Lutui, RB LenDale White, DE Frostee Rucker, TE Dominique Byrd, DB Darnell Bing, RB David Kirtman, DT LaJuan Ramsey, OG Fred Matua

2005: DT Manuel Wright (supplemental draft), WR Mike Williams, DT Mike Patterson, DT Shaun Cody, LB Lofa Tatupu, QB Matt Cassell

Conference Winning % Score from 2004-2006: 9.20

Elite Win Score: 7 2006: Michigan (Rose Bowl) 2005: at Oregon, at Notre Dame, UCLA 2004: California, Oklahoma (Orange Bowl)

Bad Losses: 0

But according to Finebaum we hate CTT...

I was thinking the same thing.

PF claiming(inciting) the AU fanbase patience is growing thin waiting for CTT to break out and have a national championship run is absurb.

CTT put this team/staff together and their success in relation to other national football powers is evident in this ranking. After a large class of Seniors laden with starters graduates/leaves Auburn, I am proud to think/say, "Auburn doesn't rebuild, they RELOAD". WAR EAGLE!

IMO we should have 9 "elite wins". They didn't count our win in '04 vs LSU as elite.

Because LSU lost three games that year, we beat them in Auburn and not in a conference championship game (which can never happen). So, by this criteria the LSU game from 2004 did not qualify as an "elite" win.

Elite Wins. This is how many wins a program has from 2004 to 2006 over teams that finished a season with two losses or fewer, or wins on the road or in a bowl or conference championship game over teams that finished with three losses or fewer.

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3. Auburn - Program Analysis: Others might have more wins, and others have more Quality Wins, but the Elite Win Score of eight is one better than USC, and four more than anyone else. This team brings it against the best. Just as impressive is the top APR Score; this team brings it in the classroom, too. Unfortunately, the ranking might go down after losing the 13-0 2004 season in the equation next year.

Okay, I just got an e-mail from a friend. He goes back and forth with a buddy of ours that's a big Bammer and this was the Bammer's response to this article when asked why Bama was not on the list. Copied and pasted for your enjoyment.

No excuses. Maybe Bama can get on this list in the near future as we now have a HIGHLY QUALIFIED COACH in NICK SABAN. It may not be this year but in 2-3 years all will be right with the world again as Bama will be back to “kicking butt and taking names†to borrow an old elementary school slogan since I am dealing with Auburn hicks, I feel I must talk in elementary terms. It is too bad this list does not include the top programs with National Championships. Oh well, Auburn only seems to be concerned with holding fingers for consecutive victories over Bama anyway, since they cannot get any respect from the national media. ROLL TIDE!

Okay, back to reality. Note the obligatory "National Championships" argument and the one quote that epitomizes the entire Mullet Nation..."All will be right with the world again as Bama wil be back..."

in all fairness, i do expect them to break into the top 25 possibly even the top 20 within 3 years at the most. he's gonna get them back to competitive. it's just a matter of how long he stays, how patient they are, and whether they can accept that they're a long long way from auburn or lsu right now.

as for us, there is just so so much to be proud of in this program. we've got student athletes in a very real sense of the word. we don't have a lot of off-field problems. like cfn points out, we bring it against the best of the best. this team simply wins, a lot, and it does it with class. that's a credit to the players, to the coaches, to the support staff put around them (chette in particular), and the atmosphere of the program as a whole. it's always great to be an auburn tiger, but now might just be one of the proudest stretches in our history.

I guess it's of no surprise who one of the top 3 teams is. This kind of thing is right up StatTiger's alley. War Eagle!

***mod edit***

merged your thread with the one that was already posted and removed the duplicate info for sake of space

-Ranger12

I'm sorry in advance...

Bowling Green? Texas Tech? Texas A&M? Those were Oklahoma's quality wins in '04 yet their schedule got them in the NC????!?!!!! Come on! We beat the defending National Champs, coached by mighty Saban-God and Oklahoma gets credit for beating Bowling Green. Texas A&M. Oklahoma St.

USC got credit for beating Arizona St, Oregon St.

Not to mention, we have two elite wins in '04 PRIOR to our conference championship. USC got credit with NONE and Oklahoma got credit with Texas.

I really don't think the anger will ever disappear...it just tucks away deep inside until something gives it a reason to come out.

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