McCain voted against MLK Holiday

[RunInRed 18,611]

He now says he "regrets the vote" ... where have we heard this flip-flop type stuff before? The Iraq war vote comes to recent mind..

Memphis, TN — Sen. John McCain may face questions about his civil rights record as he visits Memphis Friday to participate in a number of events commemorating the 40th anniversary of the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. assassination.

Scheduled to address the Southern Christian Leadership Conference–which King headed up for more than a decade–as well as lay a wreath at the National Civil Rights Museum, McCain’s initial opposition to a holiday commemorating the slain civil rights leader could be among the issues that come up during his trip.

In his first year in the U.S. House, McCain voted with the minority and opposed the 1983 law creating the national holiday to honor King, but reversed his decision around 1990 after he says he “learned” more about King’s achievements. As he fought for an Arizona state ballot measure to recognize MLK Day in 1990, McCain successfully pushed former President Reagan to endorse the referendum.

McCain has said on a number of occasions that he regrets his original 1983 vote and told reporters this week that he is “very proud” of his record of support for King.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/03...visits-memphis/

Talk about a PC move by JM

[WinCrimson 61]

He's beyond phony. He's perhaps the phoniest non-Mitt Romney/Hillary Clinton politician in modern American presidential history.

Here's a guy who was a member of one of the most corrupt scandals in Congress in the 1980s, the Keating Five, who hasn't gotten one question about it on the campaign trail. The guy's personal story involves leaving his crippled wife, cheating on her with a 25 year old heiress who financed his first political campaign. He was for the Iraq War while pretending to be against it. His foreign policy (wars are fun!) is slightly to the right of Attila The Hun. He was jetting around with lobbyists in 1999 during his presidential campaign. He considered leaving the republican party if it meant personal glory (aka The Joe Lieberman Ego Move), and has the consistent ethics of a tree frog. God help this nation if McSame is elected President.

He is, quite literally, morally and politically bankrupt.

But Barack Obama has a pastor who says angry things, and that's all Fox News wants you to know.

[GoAU 1,696]

Yes, says angry things that if you change the word "black" to "white" would be equalt to the Grand Wizard of the KKK. And please don't leave out that he was his pastor for over 20 years, his moral advisor and couselor. It's alot more than "anrgy things" - if that was a white shurch it would be labeled as a "hate organization".

[WinCrimson 61]

Yes, says angry things that if you change the word "black" to "white" would be equalt to the Grand Wizard of the KKK. And please don't leave out that he was his pastor for over 20 years, his moral advisor and couselor. It's alot more than "anrgy things" - if that was a white shurch it would be labeled as a "hate organization".

You commented on one line out of an entire paragraph spotlighting your candidate's misgivings. One line.

Jeremiah Wright, no matter how foolish his belief on the creation of AIDS, is not running for President. John McSame is.

[AURaptor 1,137]

Guess you didn't hear his speech in Memphis today. McCain uttered that comment about not voting for the MLK b-day, then said he was sorry for it. Then he said better late than never, and the largely black crowd said they forgave him. After the speech, he waded out into the crowd, w/ out any security detail, and was embraced by whites and black alike.

So much for your petty attempt of spin and the ' flip flop ' angle.

[AURaptor 1,137]

He's beyond phony. He's perhaps the phoniest non-Mitt Romney/Hillary Clinton politician in modern American presidential history.

Here's a guy who was a member of one of the most corrupt scandals in Congress in the 1980s, the Keating Five, who hasn't gotten one question about it on the campaign trail. The guy's personal story involves leaving his crippled wife, cheating on her with a 25 year old heiress who financed his first political campaign. He was for the Iraq War while pretending to be against it. His foreign policy (wars are fun!) is slightly to the right of Attila The Hun. He was jetting around with lobbyists in 1999 during his presidential campaign. He considered leaving the republican party if it meant personal glory (aka The Joe Lieberman Ego Move), and has the consistent ethics of a tree frog. God help this nation if McSame is elected President.

He is, quite literally, morally and politically bankrupt.

But Barack Obama has a pastor who says angry things, and that's all Fox News wants you to know.

You libs are a complete joke. No matter which GOP candidate is leading, you play him out to be the biggest phony since blah blah blah..... McCain isn't a phony. He lives like he talks. He speaks out against excess spending by the Senate, and then has ZERO excess spending to his home state. He says spending $ 35 k a DAY for secret service is too much, and then goes out and uses no secret service during his campaign. REFUSES to use any secret service.

McCain is a moderate Republican. He's often left of centre of several issues. ( Global warming, naming one ) I sure as heck don't agree w/ him on a handful of issues, but he's earned my respect, regardless of any political differences.

McCain has more guts , integrity, dignity and honor in his fingernail than you have in your whole body.

Hillary and Barack are the ones who are completely morally bankrupt.

[WinCrimson 61]

He's beyond phony. He's perhaps the phoniest non-Mitt Romney/Hillary Clinton politician in modern American presidential history.

Here's a guy who was a member of one of the most corrupt scandals in Congress in the 1980s, the Keating Five, who hasn't gotten one question about it on the campaign trail. The guy's personal story involves leaving his crippled wife, cheating on her with a 25 year old heiress who financed his first political campaign. He was for the Iraq War while pretending to be against it. His foreign policy (wars are fun!) is slightly to the right of Attila The Hun. He was jetting around with lobbyists in 1999 during his presidential campaign. He considered leaving the republican party if it meant personal glory (aka The Joe Lieberman Ego Move), and has the consistent ethics of a tree frog. God help this nation if McSame is elected President.

He is, quite literally, morally and politically bankrupt.

But Barack Obama has a pastor who says angry things, and that's all Fox News wants you to know.

You libs are a complete joke. No matter which GOP candidate is leading, you play him out to be the biggest phony since blah blah blah..... McCain isn't a phony. He lives like he talks. He speaks out against excess spending by the Senate, and then has ZERO excess spending to his home state. He says spending $ 35 k a DAY for secret service is too much, and then goes out and uses no secret service during his campaign. REFUSES to use any secret service.

McCain is a moderate Republican. He's often left of centre of several issues. ( Global warming, naming one ) I sure as heck don't agree w/ him on a handful of issues, but he's earned my respect, regardless of any political differences.

McCain has more guts , integrity, dignity and honor in his fingernail than you have in your whole body.

Hillary and Barack are the ones who are quite literally morally bankrupt.

First of all, I'm not a liberal. I'm actually quite conservative on fiscal issues and would probably be a nice fit in General Eisenhower's Republican Party. Too bad that no longer exists, but oh well...

I'd give him kudos on his spending crackdown if I could overlook the fact that he supports a quagmire that sucks $341 million per day from the American taxpayers. $341 million > $38 thousand. That, and the fact that you could naturally see Obama and Clinton requesting earlier protection because of their race and gender. Say what you want, but the Kennedys and MLK are dead for a reason. Some people have deep hatred for minorities' advancement and would stop at nothing to stem it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not lumping you in with those loons, just making a point as to why the Dem candidates would naturally be a little more on edge.

His military service is beyond admirable. The man has lost more hair on his ass than I'll ever have and you'll never hear me say otherwise. That still doesn't excuse his political cowardice, though.

[AUHonors 0]

He is, quite literally, morally and politically bankrupt.

But Barack Obama has a pastor who says angry things, and that's all Fox News wants you to know.

McCain has more guts , integrity, dignity and honor in his fingernail than you have in your whole body.

Hillary and Barack are the ones who are quite literally morally bankrupt.

Politics aside, I'd just like to point out that you can't be "literally morally bankrupt."

Just like it can't "literally rain cats and dogs."

[GoAU 1,696]

I'd give him kudos on his spending crackdown if I could overlook the fact that he supports a quagmire that sucks $341 million per day from the American taxpayers. $341 million > $38 thousand.

I would like to hear what you would do in Iraq right now? The Dims are quick to criticize but I have yet to hear of a decent plan from anyone. In your plan please include what you feel the reprucussions would be for Iraq, the regoin, the US and the world.

This ought to be good...

[RunInRed 18,611]

I'd give him kudos on his spending crackdown if I could overlook the fact that he supports a quagmire that sucks $341 million per day from the American taxpayers. $341 million > $38 thousand.

I would like to hear what you would do in Iraq right now? The Dims are quick to criticize but I have yet to hear of a decent plan from anyone. In your plan please include what you feel the reprucussions would be for Iraq, the regoin, the US and the world.

This ought to be good...

Here's what Obama would do:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/IraqFactSheet.pdf

[CCTAU 3,634]

He's beyond phony. He's perhaps the phoniest non-Mitt Romney/Hillary Clinton politician in modern American presidential history.

Here's a guy who was a member of one of the most corrupt scandals in Congress in the 1980s, the Keating Five, who hasn't gotten one question about it on the campaign trail. The guy's personal story involves leaving his crippled wife, cheating on her with a 25 year old heiress who financed his first political campaign. He was for the Iraq War while pretending to be against it. His foreign policy (wars are fun!) is slightly to the right of Attila The Hun. He was jetting around with lobbyists in 1999 during his presidential campaign. He considered leaving the republican party if it meant personal glory (aka The Joe Lieberman Ego Move), and has the consistent ethics of a tree frog. God help this nation if McSame is elected President.

He is, quite literally, morally and politically bankrupt.

But Barack Obama has a pastor who says angry things, and that's all Fox News wants you to know.

You libs are a complete joke. No matter which GOP candidate is leading, you play him out to be the biggest phony since blah blah blah..... McCain isn't a phony. He lives like he talks. He speaks out against excess spending by the Senate, and then has ZERO excess spending to his home state. He says spending $ 35 k a DAY for secret service is too much, and then goes out and uses no secret service during his campaign. REFUSES to use any secret service.

McCain is a moderate Republican. He's often left of centre of several issues. ( Global warming, naming one ) I sure as heck don't agree w/ him on a handful of issues, but he's earned my respect, regardless of any political differences.

McCain has more guts , integrity, dignity and honor in his fingernail than you have in your whole body.

Hillary and Barack are the ones who are quite literally morally bankrupt.

First of all, I'm not a liberal. I'm actually quite conservative on fiscal issues and would probably be a nice fit in General Eisenhower's Republican Party. Too bad that no longer exists, but oh well...

I'd give him kudos on his spending crackdown if I could overlook the fact that he supports a quagmire that sucks $341 million per day from the American taxpayers. $341 million > $38 thousand. That, and the fact that you could naturally see Obama and Clinton requesting earlier protection because of their race and gender. Say what you want, but the Kennedys and MLK are dead for a reason. Some people have deep hatred for minorities' advancement and would stop at nothing to stem it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not lumping you in with those loons, just making a point as to why the Dem candidates would naturally be a little more on edge.

His military service is beyond admirable. The man has lost more hair on his ass than I'll ever have and you'll never hear me say otherwise. That still doesn't excuse his political cowardice, though.

The Kennedys were black. HOLY s***! All this time I thought they were so white they were pink. I must have been reading the wrong history books.

And truthfully there is no reason for a MLK holiday. What he did was for less than 13% of the citizens of this country. No doubt he was a good man and raised the bar on race relations, but a holiday? This is just another attempt to placate minorities while the government and especially the DIM party continues to keep minorities down.

[RunInRed 18,611]

And truthfully there is no reason for a MLK holiday. What he did was for less than 13% of the citizens of this country. No doubt he was a good man and raised the bar on race relations, but a holiday? This is just another attempt to placate minorities while the government and especially the DIM party continues to keep minorities down.

If anyone really had any doubt about this guy...this post tells you all you need to know.

[GoAU 1,696]

I'd give him kudos on his spending crackdown if I could overlook the fact that he supports a quagmire that sucks $341 million per day from the American taxpayers. $341 million > $38 thousand.

I would like to hear what you would do in Iraq right now? The Dims are quick to criticize but I have yet to hear of a decent plan from anyone. In your plan please include what you feel the reprucussions would be for Iraq, the regoin, the US and the world.

This ought to be good...

Here's what Obama would do:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/IraqFactSheet.pdf

Reading that was 5 minutes of my life that I want back. You have got to be kidding me, right? We pull out our combat troops, tell the Iraqi government to step up, and use "diplomatic pressure" to get other countries to use influence on Iraqi factions??

1) If we pull out now the fledgling government in Iraqi would crumble in a matter of weeks.

2) That government is not yet ready to stand on it's own against the myriad of predominately foreign terrorist groups.

3) We can't exert "diplomatic pressure" over anyone in the Middle East, they do not react to "diplomatic pressure" that culure reacts to one thing, strength.

As much as most of our lazy, ignorant populations doesn't want to hear it, there is not always an "easy way out". The instant gratification our nation has come to enjoy, no - expect, doesn't alwasy work.

[BZ770 2]

What ever happened to King Lee day. THey just forgot about ole Robert.

[Tigermike 3,792]

Here's what Obama would do:

[TexasTiger 14,447]

Don't count on it. You have several months to prepare yourself for his presidency.

Here's what Obama would do:

[TexasTiger 14,447]

McCain had the guts to go there and say he had made a mistake. There is plenty to fault him with. Today is not one of those things.

[AUTiger1 0]

He now says he "regrets the vote" ... where have we heard this flip-flop type stuff before? The Iraq war vote comes to recent mind..

Memphis, TN — Sen. John McCain may face questions about his civil rights record as he visits Memphis Friday to participate in a number of events commemorating the 40th anniversary of the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. assassination.

Scheduled to address the Southern Christian Leadership Conference–which King headed up for more than a decade–as well as lay a wreath at the National Civil Rights Museum, McCain’s initial opposition to a holiday commemorating the slain civil rights leader could be among the issues that come up during his trip.

In his first year in the U.S. House, McCain voted with the minority and opposed the 1983 law creating the national holiday to honor King, but reversed his decision around 1990 after he says he “learned” more about King’s achievements. As he fought for an Arizona state ballot measure to recognize MLK Day in 1990, McCain successfully pushed former President Reagan to endorse the referendum.

McCain has said on a number of occasions that he regrets his original 1983 vote and told reporters this week that he is “very proud” of his record of support for King.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/03...visits-memphis/

Talk about a PC move by JM

So much for someone seeing the errors of their ways. PC move? It's not like he decided this just yesterday. He changed his position 18 years ago. Sounds to me like he fessed up that he was wrong and apologized. Of course Obama would never have to do that b/c he has never been wrong. EVAR!

Now on to your initial comments in the post "where have we heard this flip-flop type stuff before? The Iraq war vote comes to recent mind.." You are correct it is still fresh on my mind. In 2004 John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton were the two biggest flip-flop artist out there. And come to think of it, I think your boy Obama has flip-floped on this as well. I do seem to remember him saying something to the extent of the US had an obligation to stay long enough to make Iraq a success. He also went on to talk about how it would be a dishonor to those that have died over there, and how it betray a promise made to the Iraqis and that it would also be destabilizing to our national security or something to that extent. Now he says that he will bring this war to an end by 2009, and he would pull out troops and exert diplomatic pressure. I thought he was for stabilizing Iraq even though he was initially against the war.

Or am I wrong and he never said those things and I am imagining it all?

[Tigermike 3,792]

The question was "I would like to hear what you would do in Iraq right now?" Hence the white flag.

As for preparing myself for his presidency,,,,,,,,,,,, you said the same thing about Algore and Kerry The French guy.

Don't count on it. You have several months to prepare yourself for his presidency.

Here's what Obama would do:

McCain had the guts to go there and say he had made a mistake. There is plenty to fault him with. Today is not one of those things.

[CCTAU 3,634]

And truthfully there is no reason for a MLK holiday. What he did was for less than 13% of the citizens of this country. No doubt he was a good man and raised the bar on race relations, but a holiday? This is just another attempt to placate minorities while the government and especially the DIM party continues to keep minorities down.

If anyone really had any doubt about this guy...this post tells you all you need to know.

You made my point. If you don't agree with the minorities in this country, enlightened ones like you automatically pull out the racism brand. MLK would be embarrassed by what has been done to and with his name. MLK day, black history month, Miss Black America, etc. All of these serve to keep racism alive in this country. I read history and it matters not to me if you were black, white, green, or pink, if you were part of positive advancements for this country, then you are worthy of an atta boy. And you gotta be kidding me about the DIM party EVER being a friend of blacks. The only black person the DIM party has ever supported is achmed, and he's not even a true black man genetically. How many minorities ever get appointed during a dim term in office?

But alas, I am a racist just because I don't see the need for an MLK day when there are other Americans in history who have done things for this country as well, who do not have a day. I along with thousands on companies and millions of Americans feel the same way. But we don't feel that way out of hate, just out of a knowledge of history and where MLK stands from an American historical position.

It's OK. You can think what you want. There are people of all colors out there that I can't stand. Not sure what color you are, don't care. I just don't like you because I don't trust folks who allow themselves to have and unhealthy man-love for achmed.

But only because he's black. I love his politics.

[arnaldoabru 11]

And truthfully there is no reason for a MLK holiday. What he did was for less than 13% of the citizens of this country. No doubt he was a good man and raised the bar on race relations, but a holiday? This is just another attempt to placate minorities while the government and especially the DIM party continues to keep minorities down.

If anyone really had any doubt about this guy...this post tells you all you need to know.

You made my point. If you don't agree with the minorities in this country, enlightened ones like you automatically pull out the racism brand. MLK would be embarrassed by what has been done to and with his name. MLK day, black history month, Miss Black America, etc. All of these serve to keep racism alive in this country. I read history and it matters not to me if you were black, white, green, or pink, if you were part of positive advancements for this country, then you are worthy of an atta boy. And you gotta be kidding me about the DIM party EVER being a friend of blacks. The only black person the DIM party has ever supported is achmed, and he's not even a true black man genetically. How many minorities ever get appointed during a dim term in office?

But alas, I am a racist just because I don't see the need for an MLK day when there are other Americans in history who have done things for this country as well, who do not have a day. I along with thousands on companies and millions of Americans feel the same way. But we don't feel that way out of hate, just out of a knowledge of history and where MLK stands from an American historical position.

It's OK. You can think what you want. There are people of all colors out there that I can't stand. Not sure what color you are, don't care. I just don't like you because I don't trust folks who allow themselves to have and unhealthy man-love for achmed.

But only because he's black. I love his politics.

We have a day for trees.

[arnaldoabru 11]

And truthfully there is no reason for a MLK holiday. What he did was for less than 13% of the citizens of this country. No doubt he was a good man and raised the bar on race relations, but a holiday? This is just another attempt to placate minorities while the government and especially the DIM party continues to keep minorities down.

If anyone really had any doubt about this guy...this post tells you all you need to know.

You made my point. If you don't agree with the minorities in this country, enlightened ones like you automatically pull out the racism brand. MLK would be embarrassed by what has been done to and with his name. MLK day, black history month, Miss Black America, etc. All of these serve to keep racism alive in this country. I read history and it matters not to me if you were black, white, green, or pink, if you were part of positive advancements for this country, then you are worthy of an atta boy. And you gotta be kidding me about the DIM party EVER being a friend of blacks. The only black person the DIM party has ever supported is achmed, and he's not even a true black man genetically. How many minorities ever get appointed during a dim term in office?

But alas, I am a racist just because I don't see the need for an MLK day when there are other Americans in history who have done things for this country as well, who do not have a day. I along with thousands on companies and millions of Americans feel the same way. But we don't feel that way out of hate, just out of a knowledge of history and where MLK stands from an American historical position.

It's OK. You can think what you want. There are people of all colors out there that I can't stand. Not sure what color you are, don't care. I just don't like you because I don't trust folks who allow themselves to have and unhealthy man-love for achmed.

But only because he's black. I love his politics.

Martin Luther King is not just an inspiration for 13% of Americans.He is an inspiration for all Americans.He took an honest look at our country and showed us,thru guts,determination,courage, and brains, that our country could not achieve its potential in greatness as long as it treated a certain class of people as non humans. He held up a mirror and made us realize that "We the People" meant everyone, not "We the People,except some of you"

[jw 4 au 527]

I saw a segment on CNN this weekend where just after receiving the Noble Peace Prize, supposedly the FBI sent Rev. King a letter with attached photos of him in a "compromising situation" telling him in not so many words that they didn't like him and he should watch himself. It was a segment with Andrew Young commentry on the life of MLK. Is this true? Both angles intrigue me: 1) that the FBI would be concerned enough about him to document it in a blackmail type letter and 2) that Rev. King was a known adulter (apparently he was a womanizer ah la like Jesse Jackson more recently). Hmm, I did not know these things.

[RunInRed 18,611]

I saw a segment on CNN this weekend where just after receiving the Noble Peace Prize, supposedly the FBI sent Rev. King a letter with attached photos of him in a "compromising situation" telling him in not so many words that they didn't like him and he should watch himself. It was a segment with Andrew Young commentry on the life of MLK. Is this true? Both angles intrigue me: 1) that the FBI would be concerned enough about him to document it in a blackmail type letter and 2) that Rev. King was a known adulter (apparently he was a womanizer ah la like Jesse Jackson more recently). Hmm, I did not know these things.

I saw the special documentary. It was fascinating. Supposedly, Hoover had an obsession with bringing down MLK. There are many people still to this day who think that the Government had something to do with his assasination. Not sure on your second point.

[arnaldoabru 11]

J Edger just better be glad no one was putting microphones under his bed