CircleDrill 180 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 The lesson is that it's not 1965 anymore, and $100 hand shakes don't get you as far as they used to. You actually have to play the games to win them nowadays. Nobody (except you) cares what you have done; only what you are doing. For all the bammers who have been running their dad gum mouths so much on AU Nation this season, you won't find any sympathy from me. I am loving your complete and total embarrassment, and looking forward to many more as you restock your oline and new QB in the coming year! Enjoy! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashandarei 0 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 We were 12-2! Sure, we don't have much to show for it, but in my eyes, it was still a billions times better than what I thought we'd do. Still bummed about the loss last night, but everything will be ok. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 3,225 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I was thinking more broadly: the BCS 'Championship Game' is still a contrived sham. This Sugar Bowl win by Utah proves it. The Fiesta Bowl win over OU by Boise State proves it. The Sugar Bowl win by WVU over UGA proves it. Why the ptb do not want a playoff is still puzzling to me. In terms of fairness, there's just no other way for a team to earn a championship. In tems of making money, a playoff is a no-brainer. The amount of interest in the games would be phenomenal. The argument that a playoff would "destroy the regular season" is one propagated by people who don't really understand what cfb is about and apparently, don't understand what rivalry games are all about. I have to laugh at all the BCS defenders whenever they claim that the regular season is "a playoff every week" -- like the BCS had anything to making cfb as popular as it has always been seen it's inception. Here's a quote from the Utah HC after the Sugar Bowl win: "You know, what else do we have to prove?" Johnson said. "I mean, our strength of schedule going into this game was actually higher than Alabama's, and we beat Alabama by more than Florida did... And the resume's in itself. I think people get caught up in looking at the athletes and the glamour of a name that a program carries. But that's the reason why you play the game... So I think we deserve it, and I definitely think, without question, we are one of the best teams, if not the best team, in the country." Wow. Couldn't have said it any better. War Damn Kyle Wittingham Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 The lesson is that it's not 1965 anymore, and $100 hand shakes don't get you as far as they used to. You actually have to play the games to win them nowadays. Nobody (except you) cares what you have done; only what you are doing. For all the bammers who have been running their dad gum mouths so much on AU Nation this season, you won't find any sympathy from me. I am loving your complete and total embarrassment, and looking forward to many more as you restock your oline and new QB in the coming year! Enjoy! $100 handshakes? Really? Got a link? We "actually played" 14 games this year. Won 12 of em. I'm sure Auburn wasn't concerned about our tradition and history either. Not being concerned with it certainly didn't help them any. As far as Kyle's quote after the game...they were fortunate that we had the Oline situation we had. They may still have beaten us if we had Andre and Mike Johnson...but if we played with the same line against UF, we would have been crushed by more than 11 points for sure. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aumd03 2 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 The lesson is that it's not 1965 anymore, and $100 hand shakes don't get you as far as they used to. You actually have to play the games to win them nowadays. Nobody (except you) cares what you have done; only what you are doing. For all the bammers who have been running their dad gum mouths so much on AU Nation this season, you won't find any sympathy from me. I am loving your complete and total embarrassment, and looking forward to many more as you restock your oline and new QB in the coming year! Enjoy! $100 handshakes? Really? Got a link? We "actually played" 14 games this year. Won 12 of em. I'm sure Auburn wasn't concerned about our tradition and history either. Not being concerned with it certainly didn't help them any. As far as Kyle's quote after the game...they were fortunate that we had the Oline situation we had. They may still have beaten us if we had Andre and Mike Johnson...but if we played with the same line against UF, we would have been crushed by more than 11 points for sure. The way I see it, I think you are fortunate to have an excuse. I do think it made a difference, more because you were not able to run the ball with authority as you had all season. But I'm not sure it made a game changing difference. It seemed that Utah only slowed their offense to eat up some clock. When Alabama threatened they were able to put their foot on the gas again. The defense was what carried alabama when they struggled as they did against Tulane. Its just now they ran up against a better offense. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I was thinking more broadly: the BCS 'Championship Game' is still a contrived sham. This Sugar Bowl win by Utah proves it. The Fiesta Bowl win over OU by Boise State proves it. The Sugar Bowl win by WVU over UGA proves it. Why the ptb do not want a playoff is still puzzling to me. Yeah, any chance of letting Utah replace Oklahoma in the BCS/MNC game? (In fairness, might have to postpone it another week to give Utah some prep time to get ready for the Gators.)Plus, the Urban Meyer/Utah reunion would be media gold, especially after comments by players & announcers last night on whether this is "the best Utah team ever"--pretty much "dissing" Urban's perfect 2004 season there. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub5793 0 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 The lesson? PLAYOFF. 'nuff said Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 3,225 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 ... As far as Kyle's quote after the game...they were fortunate that we had the Oline situation we had. They may still have beaten us if we had Andre and Mike Johnson...but if we played with the same line against UF, we would have been crushed by more than 11 points for sure. You're missing the point about the most imortant part of Wittinghams's quote: "I think people get caught up in looking at the athletes and the glamour of a name that a program carries. But that's the reason why you play the game.. " Utah's undefeated season proves it could play with anyone in the country. The pollsters are all about voting who they like, or who they think looks the best, or who has the most marquee players (i.e. Heisman winners/candidates, pro potential, etc.) None of that voting stuff matters more than the heart & desire of a team to succeed. And there is no EFFING way for any pollster to measure heart & desire. The only way to measure that is to tee it up and let the teams play. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUdaREALsecTigers 2 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 The lesson is that it's not 1965 anymore, and $100 hand shakes don't get you as far as they used to. You actually have to play the games to win them nowadays. Nobody (except you) cares what you have done; only what you are doing. For all the bammers who have been running their dad gum mouths so much on AU Nation this season, you won't find any sympathy from me. I am loving your complete and total embarrassment, and looking forward to many more as you restock your oline and new QB in the coming year! Enjoy! $100 handshakes? Really? Got a link? We "actually played" 14 games this year. Won 12 of em. I'm sure Auburn wasn't concerned about our tradition and history either. Not being concerned with it certainly didn't help them any. As far as Kyle's quote after the game...they were fortunate that we had the Oline situation we had. They may still have beaten us if we had Andre and Mike Johnson...but if we played with the same line against UF, we would have been crushed by more than 11 points for sure. The way I see it, I think you are fortunate to have an excuse. I do think it made a difference, more because you were not able to run the ball with authority as you had all season. But I'm not sure it made a game changing difference. It seemed that Utah only slowed their offense to eat up some clock. When Alabama threatened they were able to put their foot on the gas again. The defense was what carried alabama when they struggled as they did against Tulane. Its just now they ran up against a better offense. And its already been well worn... Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The lesson from the Sugar Bowl is this: If Clemson, Tennessee, LSU and Auburn hadn't all been having sub-par seasons this year, UAT wouldn't have been in the Sugar Bowl. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody 11 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The lesson is that it's not 1965 anymore, and $100 hand shakes don't get you as far as they used to. You actually have to play the games to win them nowadays. Nobody (except you) cares what you have done; only what you are doing. For all the bammers who have been running their dad gum mouths so much on AU Nation this season, you won't find any sympathy from me. I am loving your complete and total embarrassment, and looking forward to many more as you restock your oline and new QB in the coming year! Enjoy! $100 handshakes? Really? Got a link? We "actually played" 14 games this year. Won 12 of em. I'm sure Auburn wasn't concerned about our tradition and history either. Not being concerned with it certainly didn't help them any. As far as Kyle's quote after the game...they were fortunate that we had the Oline situation we had. They may still have beaten us if we had Andre and Mike Johnson...but if we played with the same line against UF, we would have been crushed by more than 11 points for sure. Don't need a link .My best friend was a bartender on the strip in the 70's and early 80's in turdville He has told me and I have seen pic's , of Bama player's with rolls of 100 dollar bill's saturday night after a big game. This is no secret. And you just came off probation you idiot. And just in case you were not paying attention, ( IT WAS FOR PAYING PLAYER'S) WTF Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 $100 handshakes? Really? Got a link?---surely by now you have read the 1942 Collier's magazine articles by you own Pulitizer Prize winning alumni talking about bama cheatinfg way back in those days. And if that's too far back, make it worth my while and I will get you face to face with a bama captain under Bryant to tell you a lot more. Just grow up and quit pretending bama is so pure. We "actually played" 14 games this year. Won 12 of em. I'm sure Auburn wasn't concerned about our tradition and history either. Not being concerned with it certainly didn't help them any.--and in the end you couldn't beat either the SEC champ (which you didn't ply during the regular season) or the lowest rated team in the BCS bowls. Your own St Nick said it's how you end up that counts. As far as Kyle's quote after the game...they were fortunate that we had the Oline situation we had. They may still have beaten us if we had Andre and Mike Johnson...but if we played with the same line against UF, we would have been crushed by more than 11 points for sure.--and if our OL wasn't beat up for the IB you maybe wouldn't have beat us by 36 either. bama was very fortunate to escape injuries during the season whereas most of the teams you beat didn't. A top 10 team usually has enough depth to overcome a couple of key injuries. And with all that super duper recruiting you've had and with only 9 seniors leaving (lowest in the country) it is a coaching failure if depth wasn't developed. More yada, yada, yada (my comments in red). In all seriousness BG, why do you feel the need to come to an Auburn board to even try to rationalize getting beat? Surely you are smart enough to know you aren't going to find any sympathy here. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUartlady 43 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The lesson from the Sugar Bowl is this: If Clemson, Tennessee, LSU and Auburn hadn't all been having sub-par seasons this year, UAT wouldn't have been in the Sugar Bowl. Amen! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Lesson's bama should (but won't learn): --bama maybe be back as a top 25 but not as a top 10. --they were cocky and way overconfident before the Utah game --Saban is at least a distant 3rd to Wittingham and Myer as the Coach of the Year --Forbes magazine is surely eating crow by saying Saban is the most powerful coach in America. He showed his true colors cussing his players on the sideline and national TV took note (even some bama friends of mine were upset about it). --bama can spin it, slice it, dice it or whatever gives them that moral victory but the truth is they got absolUTEly whipped by Utah. Whup-Ass soup is selling like hotcakes in Salt lake City today. --the Sugar bowl was far from being sold out. So much for the bama myth that they are such a draw that they can sell out any big game. --bama fans left in droves before the game, busting the myth that they stay until the bitter end to support the team. And I doubt many were rushing to get ahead of the taffic so thay could get home that late. I could go on but I don't want to saturate limited capabilities with too many lessons to learn. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TidePride50 3 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 You're missing the point about the most imortant part of Wittinghams's quote: "I think people get caught up in looking at the athletes and the glamour of a name that a program carries. But that's the reason why you play the game.. " I totally agree with what he said and I myself am guilty of it as well. And not just in this game, with all the big name schools. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 7,551 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Utah deserves the AP since they won't get a sniff of the Mythical Crystal. This game reminds me of the old days I read about when Bama won in the polls prior to getting blown up in their bowl game. Utah played like Champions. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUdrew1 3 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 the lesson! how about (cockiness leads to sloppiness) Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 0 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hi guys!! I am new here! I am a big Tennessee Vols fan who is looking foreward to talking some football with Auburn fans!!! I thought I would break the ice with a big BWHWHAHAHAHA @ Bammer!!!! Rammer Jammer Utah Hammer!!!!!!! Go Vols!!! Bammers suck Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,304 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hi guys!! I am new here! I am a big Tennessee Vols fan who is looking foreward to talking some football with Auburn fans!!! I thought I would break the ice with a big BWHWHAHAHAHA @ Bammer!!!! Rammer Jammer Utah Hammer!!!!!!! Go Vols!!! Bammers suck Great first post Frank. Welcome and post often. We don't have a lot of Tennessee fans posting here, so welcome. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLink02 8 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I am a big Tennessee Vols fan Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerHeat 9 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hi guys!! I am new here! I am a big Tennessee Vols fan who is looking foreward to talking some football with Auburn fans!!! I thought I would break the ice with a big BWHWHAHAHAHA @ Bammer!!!! Rammer Jammer Utah Hammer!!!!!!! Go Vols!!! Bammers suck Welcome aboard! Mighty brave of you to show up here after that awesome display of college football we put on against UT at AU this season. I'll bet you guys didn't want any more of that after we showed you our awesome new Spread attack.... That game looked like to epileptic kangaroos in a boxing ring. Just ugly. As long as you keep up with the "Bammers suck" thing you can stay! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 surely by now you have read the 1942 Collier's magazine articles by you own Pulitizer Prize winning alumni talking about bama cheatinfg way back in those days. And if that's too far back, make it worth my while and I will get you face to face with a bama captain under Bryant to tell you a lot more. Just grow up and quit pretending bama is so pure. 1942? Got a link of $ changing hands under Saban? If not...stop being a cry baby. and in the end you couldn't beat either the SEC champ (which you didn't ply during the regular season) or the lowest rated team in the BCS bowls. Your own St Nick said it's how you end up that counts. Lowest rated team? How is that again? Utah was ranked 6th, Penn St 8th, Ohio St 10th, Va Tech 19th, Cincy 12th. Good try though. I mean, no need researching anything...just fling it out there and see if it sticks. and if our OL wasn't beat up for the IB you maybe wouldn't have beat us by 36 either. bama was very fortunate to escape injuries during the season whereas most of the teams you beat didn't. A top 10 team usually has enough depth to overcome a couple of key injuries. And with all that super duper recruiting you've had and with only 9 seniors leaving (lowest in the country) it is a coaching failure if depth wasn't developed. At team who's offense centers around the offensive line...and namely the running game...cannot sustain losses at All American left tackle, and All SEC left guard without noticing severe dropoff. No team in the country. Saying "he didn't develop talent well enough" is a throw away canned response that people say all the time...when they have no understanding of what developing talent means. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle76 1 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 One thing that I don't think anyone has mentioned ------------ the SPREAD and "Hurry-up Offense" will work against almost any defense. cns is such a defensive genius that he only allowed Utah to score 21 points on their first three possessions. uat's defense was on their heels tring to get lined up when Utah would snap the ball. uat was completely out of position on many plays. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I am a big Tennessee Vols fan Frank, just ignore him. Dawgs don't get to vote here. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU alum 2 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 To Win, BG, and the rest of the Alabama fans on here. Please, please, pay attention to WHY the Auburn fans are so elated over a Bama loss. We have had to endure a lot of crowing, rubbing in, non-all in good fun talk about football/other sports/you name it from Alabama fans for years. If it was all good-natured ribbing, trust me, there would have been some Auburn fans pulling for Alabama against Utah. But there weren't. Care to take a guess why? Auburn fans have been treated like red-headed stepchildren by Alabama for so many years. We are the butt of many unfunny jokes. UA fans act like they go to the only school that matters. We are second-class citizens to them. Well, guess what? We don't take it like it is a joke (since Bama doesn't feel like it is). At first it hurts, but after a while, you know what? It P***es you off. And that's where we are now. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55125-what-is-the-lesson-from-the-sugar-bowl/#findComment-569694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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