ziggyg 2 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 This boggles mind some. How he puts Nutt and Petrino ahead of Miles who won a NC. I dont think you can rank 3 new coaches but if you did I cant believe he put Kiffin last with staff he is putting together give him a couple of years to recruit and they could be back towards the top of SEC. Disclaimer: I never read or Listen to finabum (except this on a slow sports day) http://blog.al.com/keepingscore/2009/01/fi...sec_coachi.html Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry, but I'm not going to help legitimize F-bum by clicking on a link to his site. How does he have them ranked? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PChamp119 96 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 PF: Meyer Saban Richt Nutt Petrino Miles Spurrier Johnson Brooks Mullen Chizik Kiffin I agree with 1-3. Maybe 1-4. But Petrino ahead of Miles and Spurrier? For what? Petrino is not deserving (yet). Personally, I'd go with: Meyer Saban Richt Miles Nutt Johnson Spurrier Petrino Brooks Chizik Mullen Kiffin Might even switch those last two. Mullen's accomplishments are virtually no different from Chizik's. Chizik has a year of HC experience and is at a better program and already has put together a more impressive staff. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUman43 5 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Personally, I don't give a rat's a$$ what FBum thinks! To me, he's irrelevant! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaTigerFan 0 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Personally, I don't give a rat's a$$ what FBum thinks! To me, he's irrelevant! He is absolutely worthless and indeed irrelevant. About like Jerry Springer... cept Jerry's a notch above. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 5,777 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 PF: Meyer Saban Richt Nutt Petrino Miles Spurrier Johnson Brooks Mullen Chizik Kiffin I agree with 1-3. Maybe 1-4. But Petrino ahead of Miles and Spurrier? For what? Petrino is not deserving (yet). Personally, I'd go with: Meyer Saban Richt Miles Nutt Johnson Spurrier Petrino Brooks Chizik Mullen Kiffin Might even switch those last two. Mullen's accomplishments are virtually no different from Chizik's. Chizik has a year of HC experience and is at a better program and already has put together a more impressive staff. Nutt...LMFAO...c'mon people. This is classic Houston Nutt: win when no one expects him to, the second expectations rise (which has happened) he folds. Nutt is a bad recruiter and never wins when he is supposed to. He is a good coach at a smaller venue because he gets his players to play hard, but he is not and will never be an elite coach. Right now he is living off of Orgeron's superior recruits...once those guys leave Nutt's second-of-fame will die down because he cant recruit worth crap. You have Petrino too low. I dont know if you've noticed, but Spurrier hasn't done a thing in about 5+ years. Petrino is easily better than Spurrier, and Arkansas next season should be this year's Ole Miss. I dont understand why both lists have Kiffin last and lower than Mullen? Kiffin has proven more than Mullen who was what? OC at a school where the offense is the product of the HC? Kiffin is building a monster staff and there is no reason why Mullen should be ranked higher. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUdothan 1 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 metafour, Your observation on Nutt sounds very similiar Tuberville. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 5,777 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 metafour, Your observation on Nutt sounds very similiar Tuberville. Its a comparison that has been made before. They do share a lot of similarities, which is why the "Nutt to Auburn" rumors were hilarious: there is no way that Nutt was ever offered by Auburn. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 metafour, Your observation on Nutt sounds very similiar Tuberville. Why, yes, they are soooo similar. But I forget what year it was that four of Nutt's recruits were taken in the first round of the NFL draft. My memory is really slipping now, because I've also forgotten what season it was when Nutt's team went 13-0! While you are at it, please refresh me about when Bammer finally broke that six-game winning streak Nutt had against them. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyTiger 3 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 metafour, Your observation on Nutt sounds very similiar Tuberville. Why, yes, they are soooo similar. But I forget what year it was that four of Nutt's recruits were taken in the first round of the NFL draft. My memory is really slipping now, because I've also forgotten what season it was when Nutt's team went 13-0! While you are at it, please refresh me about when Bammer finally broke that six-game winning streak Nutt had against them. He never had the defense Tubbs did, but he did have a very similar backfield one year (minus a QB). Two stud RBs in the same backfield much like Auburn. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PChamp119 96 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Nutt has been to Atlanta twice and just turned Ole Miss around from a program that hasn't been to a bowl game since like '03 to destroying Texas Tech in a January 1st bowl game. What has Petrino done? He went 5-7 at Arkansas. What did Nutt do at Arkansas the last decade? Oh yea... better. Now Petrino may end up doing great things at Arkansas. I know the talent is thin in Arkansas. But Nutt still did good at Arkansas and excellent in his first year at Ole Miss (who won 0 games in the SEC last year). Petrino was great at Louisville. But his first year at Arkansas was nowhere near what Nutt did at Ole Miss. So I'm not going to judge him for his past. This is the SEC, not the Big East. I agree on Spurrier. But he is still better than the other coaches. He still got to a January Bowl game. He still beats Kentucky. I did put Johnson ahead of him. The only two SEC coaches that have coached in the SEC that I have below him - he defeated this year - Petrino and Brooks. I don't think his ranking is too high by any means. I do agree on Kiffin. I think the last three are interchangable in any order. I put Chizik ahead of the bunch based on his staff hirings. And I put Mullen ahead of him because of his recent college success as an assistant in the SEC. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwagoner 214 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Johnson & Brooks need more love..........IMO I'd put them ahead of Petrino, Miles, and (current) Spurrier. I like Houston Nutt, despite all the crap I may catch for saying it. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 5,777 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Nutt has been to Atlanta twice and just turned Ole Miss around from a program that hasn't been to a bowl game since like '03 to destroying Texas Tech in a January 1st bowl game. What has Petrino done? He went 5-7 at Arkansas. What did Nutt do at Arkansas the last decade? Oh yea... better. Now Petrino may end up doing great things at Arkansas. I know the talent is thin in Arkansas. But Nutt still did good at Arkansas and excellent in his first year at Ole Miss (who won 0 games in the SEC last year). Petrino was great at Louisville. But his first year at Arkansas was nowhere near what Nutt did at Ole Miss. So I'm not going to judge him for his past. This is the SEC, not the Big East. I agree on Spurrier. But he is still better than the other coaches. He still got to a January Bowl game. He still beats Kentucky. I did put Johnson ahead of him. The only two SEC coaches that have coached in the SEC that I have below him - he defeated this year - Petrino and Brooks. I don't think his ranking is too high by any means. I do agree on Kiffin. I think the last three are interchangable in any order. I put Chizik ahead of the bunch based on his staff hirings. And I put Mullen ahead of him because of his recent college success as an assistant in the SEC. Nutt hasn't done squat except win with Orgeron's recruits. Oregron couldn't coach worth s*** but he is one of the best recruiters in the country and he filled that cupboard. Ole Miss was an obvious "surprise team" as soon as Nutt was hired...they had a ton of talent on both lines and a strong QB who just transferred from Texas, it wasn't hard to predict that Nutt would win with some VERY good players. The problem is that Nutt cant recruit worth s*** and once Orgeron's guys are gone he is screwed. This is the guy that needed to hire Malzahn to get the two best players in his own state as well as their 2 other teammates. The next year we went in and took the two best players from their state (and we rarely recruit Arkansas) and USC came all the way from the west coast to snatch up the 3rd best player. Petrino inherited a weak team (complete opposite of Nutt) which just lost McFadden/Jones and had Casey Dick at QB. Petrino may be a dick but he is 10 times the recruiter Nutt is and a much better coach, I could care less what either did their first season...Petrino will have former top recruit Ryan Mallett starting at QB next year and look at the recruiting rankings...Arkansas at 5-7 is pulling in a better class than Ole Miss after a huge season where they upset Florida and won their bowl game. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerguy 1 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 This all got started because F@#$%hole rated some coaches. Why don't we discuss rating "Sports Talk" guys ? Our boy would rank last in quality even if you include radio stations located in towns with less than ten thousand listeners. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The real question is: Are these ranks based on last season alone, or career results? Based on last season alone, Nutt should be ahead of Miles. Based on career, I'd put Miles ahead because of his MNC. Similarly, for career, Spurrier still has to be in the top 2-3, but deserves little for his South Carolina tenure or last year. The new guys, Mullen, Kiffin, & Chizik, can't be included yet, IMO. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PChamp119 96 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The real question is: Are these ranks based on last season alone, or career results? Based on last season alone, Nutt should be ahead of Miles. Based on career, I'd put Miles ahead because of his MNC. Similarly, for career, Spurrier still has to be in the top 2-3, but deserves little for his South Carolina tenure or last year. The new guys, Mullen, Kiffin, & Chizik, can't be included yet, IMO. It is in my opinion that coaches are ranked on career, weighing more on the recent. So even though Nutt did better last year, Miles' NC and three 11 win seasons from 05-07 strongly outweigh last year and what Spurrier did 12 years ago. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyg 2 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 well if I was starting a program today and could pick from stable of coaches in SEC to be head coach here is my order and current staff they would bring with them. 1. Meyer 2. Richt 3. Saban 4. Spurrier 5. Nutt 6.Miles 7.chizik 8. Johnson 9. Petrino 10. Kiffin 11. Brooks 12. Mullen Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrnfanatc 6 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 It's going to be hilarious when his bottom two coaches beat his beloved Nick Saban this season. By the way...I have ranked the Birmingham Sports Talk shows below: 1. WJOX's Morning Drive 2. Dunnaway and Brown 3. WJOX's Round Table 4. Whatever show Herb Winches puts on at his house these days 5. That show on NPR with that guy who has a sports related name 6. The Paul Finebaum Show Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish 76 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 And the reason we care how the little prick rates SEC coaches is? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDE4 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 well if I was starting a program today and could pick from stable of coaches in SEC to be head coach here is my order and current staff they would bring with them. 1. Meyer 2. Richt 3. Saban 4. Spurrier 5. Nutt 6.Miles 7.chizik 8. Johnson 9. Petrino 10. Kiffin 11. Brooks 12. Mullen ok, i'll play....same thing if i could pick of the 12 to start a program TODAY being the key word. And I thought they would stay at least 5 years. 1. Meyer 2. Saban 3. Petrino 4. Richt 5. Nutt 6. Chizik 7. Spurrier 8. Johnson 9. Kiffen 10. Brooks 11. Miles 12. Mullen No slight on Spurrier but we did say today and he is too old to get it done anymore in my opinion. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDE4 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 metafour, Your observation on Nutt sounds very similiar Tuberville. Its a comparison that has been made before. They do share a lot of similarities, which is why the "Nutt to Auburn" rumors were hilarious: there is no way that Nutt was ever offered by Auburn. Not by Auburn, just our boosters. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueyedtiger 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 This boggles mind some. How he puts Nutt and Petrino ahead of Miles who won a NC. I dont think you can rank 3 new coaches but if you did I cant believe he put Kiffin last with staff he is putting together give him a couple of years to recruit and they could be back towards the top of SEC. Disclaimer: I never read or Listen to finabum (except this on a slow sports day) http://blog.al.com/keepingscore/2009/01/fi...sec_coachi.html Like anyone even cares what he thinks or says. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBoggs 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Personally, I don't give a rat's a$$ what FBum thinks! To me, he's irrelevant! He is absolutely worthless and indeed irrelevant. About like Jerry Springer... cept Jerry's a notch above. Dude, Springer didn't deserve that! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/55469-finebaum-ranks-sec-coaches/#findComment-573743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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