Public support for Dem Stimulus Bill,,,,,Slip, slip sliding away

[Tigermike 4,282]

Public support for Dem Stimulus Bill

Slip, slip sliding away

Rasmussen reports that fewer people back the Democratic stimulus bill that passed in the House yesterday than did the week before:

"Public support for the economic recovery plan crafted by President Obama and congressional Democrats has slipped a bit over the past week. At the same time, expectations that the plan will quickly become law have increased.

Forty-two percent (42%) of the nation's likely voters now support the president's plan, roughly one-third of which is tax cuts with the rest new government spending. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 39% are opposed to it and 19% are undecided. Liberal voters overwhelmingly support the plan while conservatives are strongly opposed."

Last week, support for the President's plan was at 45% and opposition at 34%.

Sometimes a turkey is just a turkey. And this particular bill is the granddaddy of them all.

Apparently the public has more economic sense than the Congress - or at least the Democrats in Congress:

Voters continue to soundly reject a recovery plan that includes only new government spending without any tax cuts. Just 15% support such a plan while 70% are opposed.

Note it doesn't say "tax rebates". The public wasn't tax cuts.

Nancy and Harry, you're doing a great job!

Public Support for Economic Recovery Plan Slips to 42%

Thursday, January 29, 2009

Public support for the economic recovery plan crafted by President Obama and congressional Democrats has slipped a bit over the past week. At the same time, expectations that the plan will quickly become law have increased.

Forty-two percent (42%) of the nation’s likely voters now support the president’s plan, roughly one-third of which is tax cuts with the rest new government spending. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 39% are opposed to it and 19% are undecided. Liberal voters overwhelmingly support the plan while conservatives are strongly opposed.

Last week, support for the President’s plan was at 45% and opposition at 34%.

As they consider the size and scope of the $800-billion-plus economic recovery plan, 46% are worried that the government will end up doing too much while 42% worry that it will do too little (see trends).

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A plurality of women now support the recovery plan, but a plurality of men take the opposite view. Those who earn less than $40,000 a year are more likely to support the plan than those with higher incomes.

Over the course of the past week, there has been little change in the views of either Republicans or Democrats towards the legislation. Seventy-four percent (74%) of Democrats support the plan along with just 18% of Republicans. Both those figures are up just a single point from the previous poll.

However, support among unaffiliated voters has fallen. A week ago, unaffiliateds were evenly divided on the plan, with 37% in favor and 36% opposed. Now, 50% of unaffiliated voters oppose the plan while only 27% favor it.

The House of Representatives passed an $819-billion version of the plan Wednesday night with all but 12 Democrats voting in favor of it and all Republicans voting against. Democrats argue the plan is full of essential stimulus measures for the economy; Republicans say it has far too much new spending in it. The telephone survey was conducted on Tuesday and Wednesday with nearly half the interviews conducted after the House vote was concluded.

Debate now shifts to the Senate where a different version of the bill is expected to pass and where its price tag could rise to $900 billion. If so, a conference with representatives from the Senate and the House will be needed to resolve the differences. Eighty-six percent (86%) of voters expect the plan to become law during the president’s first 100 days in office. That figure includes 52% who say it’s Very Likely to pass.

While support for the plan has slipped, support for a recovery plan that includes only tax cuts - like the one proposed by House Republicans - has grown during the past week. Forty-three percent (43%) of voters support that approach while 39% are opposed. Though the topline numbers are virtually the same as support for the president’s plan, the partisan demographics are distinctly different. Republicans solidly support a tax-cutting recovery plan while Democrats are solidly opposed. Forty-eight percent (48%) of unaffiliated voters like the idea while 33% do not.

Voters continue to soundly reject a recovery plan that includes only new government spending without any tax cuts. Just 15% support such a plan while 70% are opposed. Survey data released yesterday showed most voters believe that tax cuts are always better than government spending. Other recent polling shows that 59% are concerned that government spending will increase too much.

As the legislation works its way through Congress, President Obama continues to earn very high ratings in the Presidential Approval Index and consumer confidence continues to hover around all-time record lows.

Pollster.com offered a good overview of public attitudes towards the economic recovery plan.

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[au2004ece 30]

Nonetheless, just like they did in the last session of Congress with TARP and the auto bailout, they will go against the American people and pass this crap.

[arnaldoabru 11]

Public support for Dem Stimulus Bill

Slip, slip sliding away

Rasmussen reports that fewer people back the Democratic stimulus bill that passed in the House yesterday than did the week before:

"Public support for the economic recovery plan crafted by President Obama and congressional Democrats has slipped a bit over the past week. At the same time, expectations that the plan will quickly become law have increased.

Forty-two percent (42%) of the nation's likely voters now support the president's plan, roughly one-third of which is tax cuts with the rest new government spending. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 39% are opposed to it and 19% are undecided. Liberal voters overwhelmingly support the plan while conservatives are strongly opposed."

Last week, support for the President's plan was at 45% and opposition at 34%.

Sometimes a turkey is just a turkey. And this particular bill is the granddaddy of them all.

Apparently the public has more economic sense than the Congress - or at least the Democrats in Congress:

Voters continue to soundly reject a recovery plan that includes only new government spending without any tax cuts. Just 15% support such a plan while 70% are opposed.

Note it doesn't say "tax rebates". The public wasn't tax cuts.

Nancy and Harry, you're doing a great job!

Public Support for Economic Recovery Plan Slips to 42%

Thursday, January 29, 2009

Public support for the economic recovery plan crafted by President Obama and congressional Democrats has slipped a bit over the past week. At the same time, expectations that the plan will quickly become law have increased.

Forty-two percent (42%) of the nation’s likely voters now support the president’s plan, roughly one-third of which is tax cuts with the rest new government spending. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 39% are opposed to it and 19% are undecided. Liberal voters overwhelmingly support the plan while conservatives are strongly opposed.

Last week, support for the President’s plan was at 45% and opposition at 34%.

As they consider the size and scope of the $800-billion-plus economic recovery plan, 46% are worried that the government will end up doing too much while 42% worry that it will do too little (see trends).

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A plurality of women now support the recovery plan, but a plurality of men take the opposite view. Those who earn less than $40,000 a year are more likely to support the plan than those with higher incomes.

Over the course of the past week, there has been little change in the views of either Republicans or Democrats towards the legislation. Seventy-four percent (74%) of Democrats support the plan along with just 18% of Republicans. Both those figures are up just a single point from the previous poll.

However, support among unaffiliated voters has fallen. A week ago, unaffiliateds were evenly divided on the plan, with 37% in favor and 36% opposed. Now, 50% of unaffiliated voters oppose the plan while only 27% favor it.

The House of Representatives passed an $819-billion version of the plan Wednesday night with all but 12 Democrats voting in favor of it and all Republicans voting against. Democrats argue the plan is full of essential stimulus measures for the economy; Republicans say it has far too much new spending in it. The telephone survey was conducted on Tuesday and Wednesday with nearly half the interviews conducted after the House vote was concluded.

Debate now shifts to the Senate where a different version of the bill is expected to pass and where its price tag could rise to $900 billion. If so, a conference with representatives from the Senate and the House will be needed to resolve the differences. Eighty-six percent (86%) of voters expect the plan to become law during the president’s first 100 days in office. That figure includes 52% who say it’s Very Likely to pass.

While support for the plan has slipped, support for a recovery plan that includes only tax cuts - like the one proposed by House Republicans - has grown during the past week. Forty-three percent (43%) of voters support that approach while 39% are opposed. Though the topline numbers are virtually the same as support for the president’s plan, the partisan demographics are distinctly different. Republicans solidly support a tax-cutting recovery plan while Democrats are solidly opposed. Forty-eight percent (48%) of unaffiliated voters like the idea while 33% do not.

Voters continue to soundly reject a recovery plan that includes only new government spending without any tax cuts. Just 15% support such a plan while 70% are opposed. Survey data released yesterday showed most voters believe that tax cuts are always better than government spending. Other recent polling shows that 59% are concerned that government spending will increase too much.

As the legislation works its way through Congress, President Obama continues to earn very high ratings in the Presidential Approval Index and consumer confidence continues to hover around all-time record lows.

Pollster.com offered a good overview of public attitudes towards the economic recovery plan.

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Just out of curiosity, what would you guys do to try to save an economy heading down the toilet?

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/g...newsrelease.htm

Hey, but EXXON made 45 Billion in 2008

[au2004ece 30]

Just out of curiosity, what would you guys do to try to save an economy heading down the toilet?

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/g...newsrelease.htm

Hey, but EXXON made 45 Billion in 2008

I've said what I would do in other posts, but why does everybody assume that "doing something" is better than not. I would do something, but doing nothing would be better than what is planned.

One thing you could do would be to get rid of the corporate profit tax of 35%. That way Exxon would be able to keep $15.75 billion more dollars that get thrown into the trash can of the federal government.

Those dollars would either be used to hire more workers, pay current workers more, or invest in new R&D. Then, the government would still get there share when the new employees paid taxes, the current workers paid their extra taxes, and the R&D paid off and allow for another round of the same thing.

I'm sure you would say that they would just pay their CEO more money with that extra. I don't think this would happen. But even if it did, the government would still get the same tax in income taxes for the CEO. At least without the corporate tax, people that know how to invest properly (obvious by the fact they made money) would get a chance to do so with that money that the government would use for useless pork barrel projects and welfare(that could be prevented by the extra jobs discussed earlier).

[arnaldoabru 11]

Just out of curiosity, what would you guys do to try to save an economy heading down the toilet?

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/g...newsrelease.htm

Hey, but EXXON made 45 Billion in 2008

I've said what I would do in other posts, but why does everybody assume that "doing something" is better than not. I would do something, but doing nothing would be better than what is planned.

One thing you could do would be to get rid of the corporate profit tax of 35%. That way Exxon would be able to keep $15.75 billion more dollars that get thrown into the trash can of the federal government.

Those dollars would either be used to hire more workers, pay current workers more, or invest in new R&D. Then, the government would still get there share when the new employees paid taxes, the current workers paid their extra taxes, and the R&D paid off and allow for another round of the same thing.

I'm sure you would say that they would just pay their CEO more money with that extra. I don't think this would happen. But even if it did, the government would still get the same tax in income taxes for the CEO. At least without the corporate tax, people that know how to invest properly (obvious by the fact they made money) would get a chance to do so with that money that the government would use for useless pork barrel projects and welfare(that could be prevented by the extra jobs discussed earlier).

Who knows what they really pay.

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflas...ws+%2B+analysis

[au2004ece 30]

Who knows what they really pay.

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflas...ws+%2B+analysis

My point was that any amount that they do pay is wasted and not used for more jobs, higher paying jobs, or R&D. It is used by the government to subsidize poverty instead of to create prosperity. Besides the government will get more money because of no corporate tax because there will be more income taxes and more profit causing even more income taxes.

[Justin5 20]

I'm actually shocked to hear that more support the plan than oppose it (42% to 39%). Thanks for the evidence.

[TigerHeat 9]

I'm actually shocked to hear that more support the plan than oppose it (42% to 39%). Thanks for the evidence.

The sheep always support new, free sweet grass. The wolves like it, too.

[autigeremt 7,550]

I'm no way sending a shot across a bow here, but I can't understand why any educated American would go for this plan. The word "Stimulus" needst o be taken out of the bill entirely, because there's very little stimulus to it.

Someone tell me how going another trillion dollars in debt for this is going to help? The ammount in this plan is more than the total worth of Wal-Mart, Google, Microsoft, Pepsi, and Coca-Cola rolled into one.

For any majority of Americans to support this is unreal to me. Where's the sanity in all this?

[au2004ece 30]

I'm actually shocked to hear that more support the plan than oppose it (42% to 39%). Thanks for the evidence.

30% of this country is uneducated on economic matters and will support anything that gives them money and creates more entitlements to support subsidize their poverty. So, that's some pretty powerful support.

[TigerHeat 9]

I'm actually shocked to hear that more support the plan than oppose it (42% to 39%). Thanks for the evidence.

30% of this country is uneducated on economic matters and will support anything that gives them money and creates more entitlements to support subsidize their poverty. So, that's some pretty powerful support.

Thirty percent? Try eighty percent.

[Justin5 20]

Since you guys like to see polls for the stimulus:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/02/sti...-all-these.html

I've seen it asserted, assumed or alleged in many places that the stimulus package is hemorrhaging public support and might become something of an albatross around the Obama administration's neck. While I don't doubt that the stimulus could become unpopular down the road, the there is little evidence that it is unpopular in the here and now.

All polling of the stimulus to date, in fact, has shown at least a plurality and usually a majority of Americans in support, with margins varying depending on question wording, how the pollster constructs its sample, and so forth.

The most pessimistic result for the stimulus package comes from a poll released last week by Rasmussen Reports, which pegs the stimulus as being supported by 42 percent of likely voters with 39 percent in opposition. This represented, moreover, a modest decline for the stimulus from a week prior, when Rasmussen found 45 percent of likely voters in favor and 34 percent opposed.

Rasmussen, however, has shown considerably narrower margins for the stimulus than other polling conducted during the same period. Gallup, for example, showed the stimulus preferred by a 52-37 margin, with essentially no change in support from a similarly-worded poll conducted in early January. And a Democracy Corps poll shows the stimulus with wide support, with 69 percent in favor of the initiative against just 24 percent opposed.

In short, there is some evidence -- the trendline in the Rasmussen poll -- that the stimulus has become less popular. There is no evidence, on the other hand, that the stimulus has become unpopular; on the contrary, the preponderance of polling evidence suggests it remains a course of action that most of the public likes.

Why the stark difference between Rasmussen and, say, Democracy Corps? Both are applying a likely voter methodology, whereas Gallup and most of the other polls on the stimulus are surveying all adults. I understand the argument that likely voters are the ones who matter from the standpoint of electoral politics -- but determining who is and who isn't a likely voter when there is no election at hand is a little abstract for my tastes. (Are these people who are likely to vote 2010? In 2012? People who were likely to have voted in 2008? Or what?) This is one situation where I'd trend to prefer the major news orgs' polling, as they tend to place more emphasis on just this sort of issue-based polling as opposed to the horse race stuff.

At the same time, with the Republican position having been in heavy rotation on the airwaves, it would not be surprising if the package is losing some support. However more liberal the country might or might not have become, a figure like $800 billion is never going to be an easy sell, and the sheer number of budget items included within the stimulus provides plenty of talking points for the opposition. As Scott Rasmussen argues, moreover, it is Barack Obama -- not the Congressional Democrats -- who is going to need to be the key salesperson on the stimulus. But Obama has been cautious -- perhaps overcautious -- about using his political capital on the recovery package.

[autigeremt 7,550]

I don't care what a Poll of "select" Americans say, this is a terrible bill!!!!

I've said it before, and I will say it again. If THEY wanted to help Americans, they would:

1. 30% to infrastructure

2. 30% in direct stimulus to the population

3. 30% in tax cuts for the middle class and medium-small business (those who actually get off their ass and work)

4. 10% in bad mortgages and unemployment

You can "spread" a lot of wealth with 900 billion dollars.

[autigeremt 7,550]

Oh..BTW

Since you like polls...

A majority of Americans want Congress to either reject or make "major changes" to the economic stimulus package on Capitol Hill, a poll out Tuesday finds.

The Gallup poll, conducted from Friday through Sunday, found that 75 percent of Americans want Congress to pass some version of the plan, which is tagged at about $900 billion in the latest Senate package.

But the survey reflected deepening doubts about the effectiveness of the programs and spending items currently being considered by federal lawmakers. Only 38 percent of those polled favored the existing stimulus proposal, down from a slight majority holding that view in the Jan. 28 Gallup survey.

Thirty-seven percent want major changes and 17 percent reject the plan outright. (That would be 54%)

The poll also found only 10 percent think the economy will improve this year as a result of the plan. Fifty-three percent said the plan will either have no effect on their families or make their financial situations worse.

The poll reflects a substantial partisan divide, with 59 percent of Democrats calling for passage without changes while 43 percent of Republicans want major changes and another 35 percent reject it outright.

The poll was based on interviews with 1,027 adults and had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

[TigerHeat 9]

I don't care what a Poll of "select" Americans say, this is a terrible bill!!!!

I've said it before, and I will say it again. If THEY wanted to help Americans, they would:

1. 30% to infrastructure

2. 30% in direct stimulus to the population

3. 30% in tax cuts for the middle class and medium-small business (those who actually get off their ass and work)

4. 10% in bad mortgages and unemployment

You can "spread" a lot of wealth with 900 billion dollars.

My plan to save the economy:

Raise taxes to 80% for everyone making over $70,000. Drop everyone else's taxes to zero. Double corporate tax rates. Double property taxes to fund better schools. Cut the military by 20%, phased in over three years. Provide a 100% tax credit for college tuition and expenses. Allow SSA to take over the nation's 401K's with no penalty to the contributors, but remove the tax deduction. Provide 2% mortgages to everyone that wants to buy a house. Reinstate the draft (national service) so we can save money on necessary federal programs.

Have the most ethical administration ever.

[autigeremt 7,550]

I thought that was on the table already????

[RunInRed 19,662]

You would have thought he would have learned about making these types of posts...

http://www.aunation.net/forums/index.php?s...st&p=523327

Once the bill passes in February, I'm sure he'll be eating crow again.

[autigeremt 7,550]

It is February, while Obama is President, it doesn't mean we lay down and let your "boys" run rough shot over the 55,000,000 who voted against Vlad Hussien Obama.

[TigerHeat 9]

It is February, while Obama is President, it doesn't mean we lay down and let your "boys" run rough shot over the 55,000,000 who voted against Vlad Hussien Obama.

Lay down? No, just treat The One with the same fairness and decorum that the Left treated Bush.

KBR doing business with Obama? Already???

[RunInRed 19,662]

I tried to warn ya...

Public support for an $800 billion economic stimulus package has increased to 59% in a USA Today/Gallup poll conducted Tuesday night, up from 52% in Gallup polling a week ago, as well as in late January.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114577/Stimulus...ges-Higher.aspx

[autigeremt 7,550]

Funny how the phones have been ringing off the hook in D.C. against this bill while some polls show otherwise.

I guess some people want to sell out this nation.

[Justin5 20]

Funny how the phones have been ringing off the hook in D.C. against this bill while some polls show otherwise.

I guess some people want to sell out this nation.

Ummmm, people don't get excited to call in support of things if it looks like it will pass.

Plus, there are a whole bunch of people in this nation. Regardless of the issue and stance, there are always enough people to make the phones busy.

[au2004ece 30]

I don't care what a Poll of "select" Americans say, this is a terrible bill!!!!

I've said it before, and I will say it again. If THEY wanted to help Americans, they would:

1. 30% to infrastructure

2. 30% in direct stimulus to the population

3. 30% in tax cuts for the middle class and medium-small business (those who actually get off their ass and work)

4. 10% in bad mortgages and unemployment

You can "spread" a lot of wealth with 900 billion dollars.

My plan to save the economy:

Raise taxes to 80% for everyone making over $70,000. Drop everyone else's taxes to zero. Double corporate tax rates. Double property taxes to fund better schools. Cut the military by 20%, phased in over three years. Provide a 100% tax credit for college tuition and expenses. Allow SSA to take over the nation's 401K's with no penalty to the contributors, but remove the tax deduction. Provide 2% mortgages to everyone that wants to buy a house. Reinstate the draft (national service) so we can save money on necessary federal programs.

Have the most ethical administration ever.

I hope this was a parody of socialism?????

[autigeremt 7,550]

It was.

[Tigermike 4,282]

You would have thought he would have learned about making these types of posts...

http://www.aunation.net/forums/index.php?s...st&p=523327

Once the bill passes in February, I'm sure he'll be eating crow again.

You would think that you would comment on the more recent polls.

The closer it gets to passage the more Public support for Dem Stimulus Bill,,,,,Slip, slip sliding away.

In imminent anticipation of the passage of the Obama-Pelosi-Reid "Stimulus" Bill. If it passes today, on Friday the 13th, it will be completely appropriate.