eibua12 81 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Just checking out SI's ranking of recruiting classes and we are ranked 5th in the SEC West. Just stating facts I personally don't care about rankings but on the field production, time will tell Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCWarEagle 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Rivals has us fifth in the West (which sounds awful) but it also has us 18th nationally, which ain't bad. If we land Oku, I think that would jump us up a few spots, maybe ahead of Arkansas and Ole Miss. Scouts has us 15th overall (which is 3rd in the SEC West). I think our staff did a good job (under some tough conditions) and that we landed some quality players. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin5 20 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The entire SEC is a mine-field. Get used to it. The entire SEC west is in the top 25, and 10 of the 12 teams are in it overall. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyTiger 2,894 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Keep in mind that Ole Miss signed 37 players! With only 1 currently enrolled, that means that they are expecting 11 players to be academic casualties or greyshirt. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 22,249 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If we were 5th in the West and 40th nationally, I'd be concerned. But when you're hovering around the top 15, there just really isn't that big a difference between us and say Arkansas and Ole Miss. The only two teams you can say clearly signed better classes are Alabama and LSU. And the Rebels ranking is massively inflated because they signed 37 kids. I remember one year Auburn signed 30 or 31 I think because 3 or 4 counted against the previous year and another couple were sign and place but you mean to tell me they've got 12 kids they can do that with? Not bloody likely. Bottom line: The SEC killed it in recruiting this year. And we got a really good class. It's even better when you consider it was done by a coaching staff that's only been together for 6-8 weeks. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucanucktiger 2,010 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 A nice job, especially under the conditions. Of course the most important teams to out-recruit are those in your half of your conference...right? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLink02 8 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Your class was Top 20 That is a success Scout.com did a "revision" from the 2003 & 2004 classes and UGA dropped to #16 and #18 once busts/non-qualifiers were included Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU alum 2 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Philip Marshall's editorial on Auburnundercover.com helped explain things to me somewhat. It was ticking me off that we got ranked as low as we did and I didn't understand it. Now, I understand, but I still don't agree with it. I have the pertinent stuff below. "Since those guys (the JUCO guys) are among the cream of Auburn’s crop, it’s not hard to see that leaving them out is going to create a completely inaccurate view of Auburn’s recruiting success. I see that as a concern and have expressed my concern to the folks at ESPN. I have said before that I think ESPN’s system of rating players is the best one. I still believe that. But when some players are simply ignored and others seemingly haven’t been evaluated since before their senior seasons, it calls the team rankings into question. Auburn’s class is ranked No. 14 and No. 17 on the other two sites that rate such things. It is not ranked in the top 25 by ESPN. As a result of the circumstances, we’ll report all the class rankings when they are final. There is no other way to get an accurate gauge of how Auburn’s recruiting class really is viewed. I would like to have a better explanation of why it set up the way it is, but to be honest, I didn't recognize until Tuesday that good players apparently weren't even being counted." Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Decent overall class, everything considered, but short on OL. My expectations are for at least 2-3 mediocre years depending on next year's recruiting. Reality is that barring upsets we will be 3rd-4th in the West (at best) for a few years. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eibua12 81 Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 I am very please with the class, overall the SEC did well so what this will be decided on the field well until the MNC Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtftiger 40 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Decent overall class, everything considered, but short on OL. My expectations are for at least 2-3 mediocre years depending on next year's recruiting. Reality is that barring upsets we will be 3rd-4th in the West (at best) for a few years. It all depends on how this group of coaches can get these players to perform. We could be 1st or 6th. This is a great start. Now, let's get it done in the weight room, practice field, and stadium. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-579965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PChamp119 96 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Well, we were 5th in the SEC West with our record - makes sense. But 5 teams in the West won't ever be ranked in college football polls - so now we see how the recruits will be coached and how they perform on the field. Like it was said - classes are pretty similar outside of LSU and Bama. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friedchickenman 0 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 To be hovering around top 15, after the entire fiasco that we went through and the circumstances that Chizik & Co. came into, is nothing but a resounding success. I can only imagine that things could possibly be much better next year. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegalEagle 22 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Decent overall class, everything considered, but short on OL. My expectations are for at least 2-3 mediocre years depending on next year's recruiting. Reality is that barring upsets we will be 3rd-4th in the West (at best) for a few years. I think our success or lack thereof over the next few years will be determined largely by the ability of our players to learn our new offensive system. Last years' experiment may help them. If the coaches can get the players playing correctly, we'll have an edge on the defenses we'll be up against. It could be the opposite - we'll do well for three years - until the defenses catch on and catch up. Our cupboard is not bare. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,109 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I'm proud of the job the staff did this year. It looks at least as good as the class Sabear had his first 5 weeks on the job. And goodness knows that's the only frame of reference that matters any more. I think the assertion that we're 3rd or 4th in the West barring upsets for the next "few years" is patently ridiculous. I've said it before and I'll say it again: we have the talent level to win the SEC. This coaching staff does not get the pass that it lacks talent b/c that is completely and utterly untrue. In the next three years, the following will get drafted (barring injury): Walt McFadden, Michael McNeil (or is it McNeal?), Tray Blackmon, very likely Craig Stevens, Antonio Coleman, Antoine Carter, Lee Ziemba, Ryan Pugh, Mario Fannin, and Ben Tate. That's a LOT of top-end talent. And it doesn't include a single freshman from last year's team (even though some of those guys appear to have big time talent, ie. Neiko Thorpe and Mike Berry in particular). I know people love to poo-poo what the last staff did in order to justify firing (or as someone called "quitting") a coach or in order to lower expectations for the current staff, but we didn't lose last year b/c of a lack of talent. We just didn't. And we won't lose next year (or the year after that) b/c of a lack of talent. I don't care how many "stars" a guy is... there isn't a team in the SEC that wouldn't kill for AC or Mario. We have talent. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 5,776 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 FWIW there is NO way that Ole Miss brought in a better class...they signed 9 more players and beat us by a whopping 29 recruiting points total. Our class is about equal with Arkansass. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadillacattack 0 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Decent overall class, everything considered, but short on OL. My expectations are for at least 2-3 mediocre years depending on next year's recruiting. Reality is that barring upsets we will be 3rd-4th in the West (at best) for a few years. I definitely agree. The LOS situation is so precarious that any injury at all will expose our lack of quality depth, particularly on the OL. Hate to admit it, but 4th-5th in the West is about as good as I see it being in '09. Schedule turns in our favor in '10, but short of signing the best OL class in AU's history next year, we may be continuing to tread water in '10 too. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,109 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I don't see it. I'm sorry, but Lee Ziemba and Ryan Pugh didn't all the sudden start to suck. They hit a sophomore wall. If you don't think that exists, go back and watch film of Andre Smith getting worked in the Iron Bowl as a sophomore. Both of those guys are going to rebound. I dunno, I may be completely overrating our talent, but I see a team returning Ziemba (LT), Pugh ©, Berry (RG), Isom (starting experience at RG), and all of those guys are So/Jr. So they're all going to be between 4 and 3 year starters by 2010. If our line isn't solid by that time, we failed to coach our current (talented) players AND failed to find a single competent lineman in the interim. That would be an indictment of the coaching staff more than the players. I can definitely see the argument that the line is going to hit a low, but I don't see how you can argue that such a thing will happen until after the current group of linemen have moved on (2011/2012). Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU Cav 0 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I'm sorry guys, but I expect to compete for the SEC championship next year. However, I am prepared for moderate success. But for the coming year my expectations are as high as they were going into last season. I know some of you will think these statements are ridiculous, but before you flame, think about it really. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerguy 1 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Cav, I'm with you. No need to drop expectations now. We've augmented our talent with some good players. Time to assault the hill this year. Nothing to lose and lots to gain. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 FWIW there is NO way that Ole Miss brought in a better class...they signed 9 more players and beat us by a whopping 29 recruiting points total. Our class is about equal with Arkansass. Rivals only ranks the top 20 in each class. Not sure how many scout ranks but I know it isn't all of them. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 8,212 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 FWIW there is NO way that Ole Miss brought in a better class...they signed 9 more players and beat us by a whopping 29 recruiting points total. Our class is about equal with Arkansass. Rivals only ranks the top 20 in each class. Not sure how many scout ranks but I know it isn't all of them. BG, dont waste your time. Apparently few if any really pay attention to the details of recruit rankings. Tried to explain in the recruiting forum and it was a complete waste of time. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJtrueAUman 4 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I'm sorry guys, but I expect to compete for the SEC championship next year. However, I am prepared for moderate success. But for the coming year my expectations are as high as they were going into last season. I know some of you will think these statements are ridiculous, but before you flame, think about it really. I am so with you guys on this. I am super excited about this season, I feel like a new era has begun and I am really looking forward to it. It's been a long time since I went into the stadium expecting to lose circa 1990 and 91 but my faith has grown by leaps and bounds since then and I will continue to believe that we have the coaches and talent to compete year in and year out Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Rivals only ranks the top 20 in each class. Not sure how many scout ranks but I know it isn't all of them. That's not the whole truth of the rankings and you do, or should, know that. If you don't know, check A; The thread on the recruiting forum or B; Google. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKCAUB 0 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Just checking out SI's ranking of recruiting classes and we are ranked 5th in the SEC West. Just stating facts I personally don't care about rankings but on the field production, time will tell ...and as usual, we'll see how that plays out on the field. By the way, I would hardly call anything based on recruiting rankings, "facts".... A little too subjective, yes? Oh, it's a "fact" they ranked them the way you say...and that's about it. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56112-class-ranking/#findComment-580972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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