bird36 5 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Would you cheat and win 3 SEC championships in 10 years if at the end of the decade you would get caught and suffer moderate probation? Would it be worth it to be like Oklahoma under Switzer?? This is my first poll so if it gets messed up I will not be offended if you delete it. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFTiger 282 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Been there, done that, not worth it. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNewby 27 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Not just NO, but HELL NO. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 7,551 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 NO WAY IN HELL!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarDamn57 0 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I have to admit that I am pretty proud of us, so far no one has picked yes, says something about Auburn character, and I'd be willing to bet the results wouldn't be the same on some other boards. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzurd24 11 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 No. I hope I'm wrong and we're better than that. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNewby 27 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Would you cheat and win 3 SEC championships in 10 years if at the end of the decade you would get caught and suffer moderate probation? Would it be worth it to be like Oklahoma under Switzer?? This is my first poll so if it gets messed up I will not be offended if you delete it. Results might differ if your premise was cheat to win and not get caught. It's very hard to change a culture. Wink. Wink. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger1 0 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Not meaning to bash, but why in the heck would anyone vote yes? I agree with OldNewby: "NOT NO, BUT HELL NO" Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTiger 4,120 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Not NO, but Hell NO.... let's leave that for uat. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLink02 8 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 What exactly does moderate probation mean? I mean, are we talking about paying players or smaller things like illegal phone calls, maybe some small contact at HS with players, etc... If the probation wasn't too bad & school got to keep the SEC Titles, I would take it. So, I said yes Just win Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU Cav 0 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 What exactly does moderate probation mean? I mean, are we talking about paying players or smaller things like illegal phone calls, maybe some small contact at HS with players, etc... If the probation wasn't too bad & school got to keep the SEC Titles, I would take it. So, I said yes Just win My Hero for the Day. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,304 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 What exactly does moderate probation mean? I mean, are we talking about paying players or smaller things like illegal phone calls, maybe some small contact at HS with players, etc... If the probation wasn't too bad & school got to keep the SEC Titles, I would take it. So, I said yes Just win And I was thinking 2 bammers had voted. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKCAUB 0 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 "Would you cheat and win 3 SEC championships in 10 years if at the end of the decade you would get caught and suffer moderate probation?" Ask the Bamars on this board...they would be better qualified to answer that question. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-580976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 3,224 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 What exactly does moderate probation mean? I mean, are we talking about paying players or smaller things like illegal phone calls, maybe some small contact at HS with players, etc... If the probation wasn't too bad & school got to keep the SEC Titles, I would take it. So, I said yes Just win See, that's where I think some schools like OU (most recently with Romar,) SC (mrw Bush,) OSU (mrw Clarett,) uat (mrw Means) cheat because they know the risk/reward ratio is so low. It takes a lot of proof for the NCAA to come down on you unless somebody talks in public. The outright buffoonery in the Means case is what brought down uat and I just don't see that happening too often. I voted no. AU can win without cheating up with the Joneses. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-581008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUman43 5 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Nothing is ever worth cheating for! What's the reward in winning if you're stacking the deck and know it? You'll eventually get caught and pay a Hell of a price for it. So, NO, NO, NO! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-581018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
92AUGRAD 4 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Would you cheat and win 3 SEC championships in 10 years if at the end of the decade you would get caught and suffer moderate probation? Would it be worth it to be like Oklahoma under Switzer?? This is my first poll so if it gets messed up I will not be offended if you delete it. Results might differ if your premise was cheat to win and not get caught. It's very hard to change a culture. Wink. Wink. This is exactly what I was also thinking. If everyone knew AU was cheating but no one could definitively prove it and you won championships, would you be alright continuing to cheat? I think it would be hard to say no especially if you believe other programs (i.e. the terds) are doing it and gaining a competitive advantage. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-581041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLink02 8 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 What exactly does moderate probation mean? I mean, are we talking about paying players or smaller things like illegal phone calls, maybe some small contact at HS with players, etc... If the probation wasn't too bad & school got to keep the SEC Titles, I would take it. So, I said yes Just win See, that's where I think some schools like OU (most recently with Romar,) SC (mrw Bush,) OSU (mrw Clarett,) uat (mrw Means) cheat because they know the risk/reward ratio is so low. It takes a lot of proof for the NCAA to come down on you unless somebody talks in public. The outright buffoonery in the Means case is what brought down uat and I just don't see that happening too often. I voted no. AU can win without cheating up with the Joneses. Hell, USC won't even have any probation for the Bush stuff....give me a UGA NC if it means some "talk" but no "action" by the NCAA As for Clarett, I thought OSU was going to get hit HARD by that but they never did. I am not sure I would want THAT coming down on the program but a NC is hard to turn down. I openly admit that I want to win a LOT MORE than others and I have no problem bending rules to get it. I don't mind bending the rules though because I believe everyone does it. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-581062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Where are all the bammers? So far only 4 have voted Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-581140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerHeat 9 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Would you cheat and win 3 SEC championships in 10 years if at the end of the decade you would get caught and suffer moderate probation? Would it be worth it to be like Oklahoma under Switzer?? This is my first poll so if it gets messed up I will not be offended if you delete it. Results might differ if your premise was cheat to win and not get caught. It's very hard to change a culture. Wink. Wink. This is exactly what I was also thinking. If everyone knew AU was cheating but no one could definitively prove it and you won championships, would you be alright continuing to cheat? I think it would be hard to say no especially if you believe other programs (i.e. the terds) are doing it and gaining a competitive advantage. I'd rather be dead last in the WAC than for us to cheat and win all the MNC's out there. Is a piece of glass worth your soul? Would you cheat to win if the other side was doing it and your own kids could see what was happening? Can they cheat in school to get an A? Is that okay? Surely our own kids are better than a MNC. Don't we already have enough programs like that out there? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-581154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLink02 8 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Is a piece of glass worth your soul? If someone's soul is dependent on the glass, that person may have more problems than just cheating. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-581250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
92AUGRAD 4 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Would you cheat and win 3 SEC championships in 10 years if at the end of the decade you would get caught and suffer moderate probation? Would it be worth it to be like Oklahoma under Switzer?? This is my first poll so if it gets messed up I will not be offended if you delete it. Results might differ if your premise was cheat to win and not get caught. It's very hard to change a culture. Wink. Wink. This is exactly what I was also thinking. If everyone knew AU was cheating but no one could definitively prove it and you won championships, would you be alright continuing to cheat? I think it would be hard to say no especially if you believe other programs (i.e. the terds) are doing it and gaining a competitive advantage. I'd rather be dead last in the WAC than for us to cheat and win all the MNC's out there. Is a piece of glass worth your soul? Would you cheat to win if the other side was doing it and your own kids could see what was happening? Can they cheat in school to get an A? Is that okay? Surely our own kids are better than a MNC. Don't we already have enough programs like that out there? Not worth my soul but short of that, I'm all in. Actually I would have a hard time being completely honest if I felt there were a significant number of other programs doing it. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-581255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
creed 1,989 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 In my opinion cheating is wrong and in direct conflict with the Auburn Creed. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-581259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucanucktiger 2,016 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Not to get too philosophical but consider this. In the late 1980s a scholarship chemistry student @ Auburn could accept flights from his/her roommate's dad to hunting trips without any reprisal whatsoever. Our QB Jeff Burger did the same thing back then and AU received notice that the NCAA considered it a violation of NCAA rules. "Cheating". Dye sat Burger out for ONE play the next game. In a Henry David Thereau sort of way (civil disobedience of BS rules & all that) how many would trade 3 SEC championships for THAT scenario w/ NCAA letters for minor violations of stupid rules? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-582396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtftiger 40 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 It ain't cheatin' if you don't get caught. Signed, Paul Bryant Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-582397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU Cav 0 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 It ain't cheatin' if you don't get caught. Signed, Paul Bryant If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying. Signed, My Drill Sergeants, about 100 times during training. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56142-would-it-be-worth-it-to-cheat-if-you-would-win-but-get-caught/#findComment-582428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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