autigeremt 7,551 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The estranged wife of a Muslim television executive feared for her life after filing for divorce last month from her abusive husband, her attorney said  and was found beheaded Thursday in his upstate New York television studio. Aasiya Z. Hassan, 37, was found dead on Thursday at the offices of Bridges TV in Orchard Park, N.Y., near Buffalo. Her husband, Muzzammil Hassan, 44, has reportedly been charged with second-degree murder. "She was very much aware of the potential ramification of her filing for divorce might have," said attorney Elizabeth DiPirro, whose law firm, Hogan Willig, represented Aasiya Hassan in the divorce proceeding. "But she wanted to proceed despite the potential for it to erupt." DiPirro said the couple had "physical confrontations off and on" for their entire eight-year marriage that had recently escalated to death threats. The grounds for divorce were "cruel and inhuman treatment," DiPirro said, referring to mulitple prior incidents of abuse. She declined to elaborate. "We were worried about the situation becoming volatile," DiPirro said. The couple had two children, ages 4 and 6, DiPirro said. Muzzammil Hassan also has two children, ages 17 and 18, from a previous marriage. DiPirro said Aasiya was a "brave" mother who sought a better life for her young children. "She was a very brave woman who was extremely devoted to her children and had come to this decision after a long, thoughtful process and was determined to change her life for herself and her children," DiPirro said. Orchard Park Police Chief Andrew Benz told the Buffalo News that Aasiya Hassan had obtained an order or protection on Feb. 6, barring her husband from their home. Police have reportedly still not found the weapon allegedly used in the killing. Benz did not return several requests for comment Monday. "Obviously this is the worst form of domestic violence possible," Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita told the Buffalo News. Muzzammil Hassan, who founded Bridges TV in November 2004 to counter anti-Islam stereotypes, surrendered to police Thursday. Hassan touted the network as the "first-ever full-time home for American Muslims," according to a press release. "Every day on television we are barraged by stories of a 'Muslim extremist, militant, terrorist, or insurgent,'" Hassan said in the 2004 release. "But the stories that are missing are the countless stories of Muslim tolerance, progress, diversity, service and excellence that Bridges TV hopes to tell." Hassan, who was arraigned Thursday, remains jailed at the Erie County Holding Center. No bail had been set and an attorney for Hassan was not listed, according to a jail spokeswoman. Dr. Khalid Qazi, a friend of the couple and president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council of Western New York, said the channel had been under financial strain. "I cannot believe it  I know them both well," Qazi told the Buffalo News. "I cannot get a handle on this." Samira Khatib, a friend of the couple, said Aasiya Hassan encouraged her husband to launch the cable channel. "They were really more than married  they encouraged each other in everything," Khatib told the Buffalo News. "She was such a lovely person." According to the station's Web site, Aasiya Hassan "came up with the idea" for the network. The Web site, which shows an undated photo of the couple in happier times, identifies her maiden name as Aasiya Zubair. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 3,223 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 "Every day on television we are barraged by stories of a 'Muslim extremist, militant, terrorist, or insurgent,'" Hassan said in the 2004 release. "But the stories that are missing are the countless stories of Muslim tolerance, progress, diversity, service and excellence that Bridges TV hopes to tell." I wonder how Bridges TV will report this story. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNewby 27 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The grounds for divorce were "cruel and inhuman treatment," DiPirro said, referring to mulitple prior incidents of abuse. What was wrong with Aasiya? Did she miss her Friday School lessons? Was she unaware that she was merely chattel in her master's warped mind? Off with Muzzammil's head! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,304 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexbo 104 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 This is just a normal case of domestic violence. Nothing to see here. And if you think otherwise you are racist and anti-Islam! Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 22,262 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 How the hell is it second degree murder when you behead someone? Doesn't that take some premeditation? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,304 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 How the hell is it second degree murder when you behead someone? Doesn't that take some premeditation? It was in New York. They are mad he didn’t use a gun so they could start their anti gun mantra. In fact if he had shot her, the DA would be going for the death penalty. Muzzammil Hassan, who founded Bridges TV in November 2004 to counter anti-Islam stereotypes,,,,, Muslims the world over thank you for perpetuating the stereotype of Islam; without your hard work no one would ever think a Muslim might cut someone’s head off. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnaldoabru 11 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Those dern monotheist http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/ Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 22,262 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Culled from a blog I read. I know of this poster and trust that he's not making this up: True story about the Religion of Peace: My mother taught elementary school for years in a certain community I won’t name, at a Lutheran Day School. A very prominent doctor in the community, a Muslim, wanted to send his son to the school, which offered a superior education to what was available from the public schools. The boy was in my mother’s classroom. She went to meet with him and his wife to make sure they were aware their son would be required to do all the assigned work in religion classes, which consisted, of course, of classic Biblical Lutheranism. No problem, the boy would do the work. Then my mom, being the bold person she is, said, “Dr. So-and-So, I have read that in Muslim countries if your son were to convert to Christianity you would have the right, as his father, to kill him. Would you actually do that?†There was a very long awkward silence and my mom just kept waitng for answer. The doctor finally said, “Well, we are here in the USA, so we would not do that here.†Chilling. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,304 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 3,223 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Those dern monotheist http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/ You realize these are not similar situations, right? According to certain Islamic sects, slaughtering infidels like animalsl (i.e. ritual throat-cutting) is preached. Likewise, stoning to death, "honor killings" and beheadings are accepted forms of punishments for some offenses against the teachings of Islam. I cannot think of one Christian sect, or any religion for that matter, which would sanction what that preacher did: sexually abusing his children & murdering his wife after she found out. Nice try to link the two, though. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 22,262 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 arnoldo specializes in non sequiturs. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnaldoabru 11 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Those dern monotheist http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/ You realize these are not similar situations, right? According to certain Islamic sects, slaughtering infidels like animalsl (i.e. ritual throat-cutting) is preached. Likewise, stoning to death, "honor killings" and beheadings are accepted forms of punishments for some offenses against the teachings of Islam. I cannot think of one Christian sect, or any religion for that matter, which would sanction what that preacher did: sexually abusing his children & murdering his wife after she found out. Nice try to link the two, though. Somewhere out there there is a web site. Let's say Egypt. This web site is devoted to a University's soccer team. On the web site is a forum designated for the political issues of the day. Ali al-Achabar (he has a funny sounding name because he grew up in a culture where parents name their kids names like this) is on the bloggesphere one day and comes across the article I posted. He post the article and then adds "see there all Christans are barbarians.Here is a Christan holy man murdering his wife. And they call themselves a "religion of peace". Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 22,262 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Those dern monotheist http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/ You realize these are not similar situations, right? According to certain Islamic sects, slaughtering infidels like animalsl (i.e. ritual throat-cutting) is preached. Likewise, stoning to death, "honor killings" and beheadings are accepted forms of punishments for some offenses against the teachings of Islam. I cannot think of one Christian sect, or any religion for that matter, which would sanction what that preacher did: sexually abusing his children & murdering his wife after she found out. Nice try to link the two, though. Somewhere out there there is a web site. Let's say Egypt. This web site is devoted to a University's soccer team. On the web site is a forum designated for the political issues of the day. Ali al-Achabar (he has a funny sounding name because he grew up in a culture where parents name their kids names like this) is on the bloggesphere one day and comes across the article I posted. He post the article and then adds "see there all Christans are barbarians.Here is a Christan holy man murdering his wife. And they call themselves a "religion of peace". Mike already explained to you the key difference: there is no segment of Christianity that preaches that men have the right to murder their wives for any reason. However, there are very loud and prominent segments of Islam preaching that it is the duty of Muslims everywhere to slaughter the infidel and gives broad rights for men to commit honor killings of their wives and/or daughters when they do things like file for divorce, commit adultery or have the misfortune of being raped. Whole countries in the Middle East are struggling with huge segments of their populations that follow such hard line Sharia law teachings. There is no comparable thing in Christianity to point to. At best you might find some individual or some small cult offshoot that teaches crazy stuff. Islam on the other hand is in a life and death struggle for the its future because of the power, numbers and influence of this movement. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,304 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Those dern monotheist http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/ You realize these are not similar situations, right? According to certain Islamic sects, slaughtering infidels like animalsl (i.e. ritual throat-cutting) is preached. Likewise, stoning to death, "honor killings" and beheadings are accepted forms of punishments for some offenses against the teachings of Islam. I cannot think of one Christian sect, or any religion for that matter, which would sanction what that preacher did: sexually abusing his children & murdering his wife after she found out. Nice try to link the two, though. Somewhere out there there is a web site. Let's say Egypt. This web site is devoted to a University's soccer team. On the web site is a forum designated for the political issues of the day. Ali al-Achabar (he has a funny sounding name because he grew up in a culture where parents name their kids names like this) is on the bloggesphere one day and comes across the article I posted. He post the article and then adds "see there all Christans are barbarians.Here is a Christan holy man murdering his wife. And they call themselves a "religion of peace". So you are saying somewhere out there in the far reaches of the known universe and blogo-sphere there is a Muslim cleric who is just as delusional as you? Damn that is a scary thought. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerHeat 9 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Those dern monotheist http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/ You realize these are not similar situations, right? According to certain Islamic sects, slaughtering infidels like animalsl (i.e. ritual throat-cutting) is preached. Likewise, stoning to death, "honor killings" and beheadings are accepted forms of punishments for some offenses against the teachings of Islam. I cannot think of one Christian sect, or any religion for that matter, which would sanction what that preacher did: sexually abusing his children & murdering his wife after she found out. Nice try to link the two, though. Somewhere out there there is a web site. Let's say Egypt. This web site is devoted to a University's soccer team. On the web site is a forum designated for the political issues of the day. Ali al-Achabar (he has a funny sounding name because he grew up in a culture where parents name their kids names like this) is on the bloggesphere one day and comes across the article I posted. He post the article and then adds "see there all Christans are barbarians.Here is a Christan holy man murdering his wife. And they call themselves a "religion of peace". Islamic law in a nutshell for you-know-who Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-582993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnaldoabru 11 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Those dern monotheist http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/ You realize these are not similar situations, right? According to certain Islamic sects, slaughtering infidels like animalsl (i.e. ritual throat-cutting) is preached. Likewise, stoning to death, "honor killings" and beheadings are accepted forms of punishments for some offenses against the teachings of Islam. I cannot think of one Christian sect, or any religion for that matter, which would sanction what that preacher did: sexually abusing his children & murdering his wife after she found out. Nice try to link the two, though. Somewhere out there there is a web site. Let's say Egypt. This web site is devoted to a University's soccer team. On the web site is a forum designated for the political issues of the day. Ali al-Achabar (he has a funny sounding name because he grew up in a culture where parents name their kids names like this) is on the bloggesphere one day and comes across the article I posted. He post the article and then adds "see there all Christans are barbarians.Here is a Christan holy man murdering his wife. And they call themselves a "religion of peace". Mike already explained to you the key difference: there is no segment of Christianity that preaches that men have the right to murder their wives for any reason. However, there are very loud and prominent segments of Islam preaching that it is the duty of Muslims everywhere to slaughter the infidel and gives broad rights for men to commit honor killings of their wives and/or daughters when they do things like file for divorce, commit adultery or have the misfortune of being raped. Whole countries in the Middle East are struggling with huge segments of their populations that follow such hard line Sharia law teachings. There is no comparable thing in Christianity to point to. At best you might find some individual or some small cult offshoot that teaches crazy stuff. Islam on the other hand is in a life and death struggle for the its future because of the power, numbers and influence of this movement. Psalm 137:9 Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-583056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnaldoabru 11 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Those dern monotheist http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/ You realize these are not similar situations, right? According to certain Islamic sects, slaughtering infidels like animalsl (i.e. ritual throat-cutting) is preached. Likewise, stoning to death, "honor killings" and beheadings are accepted forms of punishments for some offenses against the teachings of Islam. I cannot think of one Christian sect, or any religion for that matter, which would sanction what that preacher did: sexually abusing his children & murdering his wife after she found out. Nice try to link the two, though. Somewhere out there there is a web site. Let's say Egypt. This web site is devoted to a University's soccer team. On the web site is a forum designated for the political issues of the day. Ali al-Achabar (he has a funny sounding name because he grew up in a culture where parents name their kids names like this) is on the bloggesphere one day and comes across the article I posted. He post the article and then adds "see there all Christans are barbarians.Here is a Christan holy man murdering his wife. And they call themselves a "religion of peace". Islamic law in a nutshell for you-know-who Well. I guess this was one time when it was better to be a Muslim Leviticus 20:16 Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-583058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 4,304 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Psalm 137:9 I'm thinking before you try and use Psalm 137:9 you should read and put it in context with Psalm 137:1 - 8 Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-583114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 3,223 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 The Religion of Peace. Those dern monotheist http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/preacher.freezer/ You realize these are not similar situations, right? According to certain Islamic sects, slaughtering infidels like animalsl (i.e. ritual throat-cutting) is preached. Likewise, stoning to death, "honor killings" and beheadings are accepted forms of punishments for some offenses against the teachings of Islam. I cannot think of one Christian sect, or any religion for that matter, which would sanction what that preacher did: sexually abusing his children & murdering his wife after she found out. Nice try to link the two, though. Somewhere out there there is a web site. Let's say Egypt. This web site is devoted to a University's soccer team. On the web site is a forum designated for the political issues of the day. Ali al-Achabar (he has a funny sounding name because he grew up in a culture where parents name their kids names like this) is on the bloggesphere one day and comes across the article I posted. He post the article and then adds "see there all Christans are barbarians.Here is a Christan holy man murdering his wife. And they call themselves a "religion of peace". Islamic law in a nutshell for you-know-who Well. I guess this was one time when it was better to be a Muslim Leviticus 20:16 Nice try, again. You're taking a biblical passage written way back when and projecting it as applicable today in the 21st century. Beastiality may be against the law but you would be hard pressed to find it a capital offense now in any country where Christianity is predominant. I'd be curious to know how modern Muslim countries view beastiality and what the appropriate penalty is. Christianity has a long history and not all of it has been without fault. No present-day Christian sect would sanction burning witches at the stake or, putting people to death after extracting confessions of heresey as happened in the Spanish Inquisition, for example. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-583139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 22,262 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Now, if arnaldo could follow up on the actual point I made and show me a major Christian denomination or sect that interprets either of those passages in such a way that they now preach we should do such thing, I'm all ears. Mind you, I'm not talking about finding some kook on the far reaches of the intarwebs. I want to see a Christian group that even comes close to holding the kind of sway and influence that the Sharia law advocates who've virtually taken over entire countries in the Middle East. I eagerly await your response. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56428-muslim-extremism-here-we-come/#findComment-583249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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