RunInRed 19,662 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Today the White House has released "state-specific details on the local impact" the bill will have across the nation (52,000 in the State of Alabama alone). The proof will ultimately be in the pudding as they say, but I'm going to keep this post as a benchmark to track to. Remember, many Republicans railed against this package saying it would do "nothing to create jobs." A few examples (re: the infamous and now debunked lie about $30MM for mice): John Boehner (OH-08) When you look at some of the spending in this bill, it will do nothing about creating jobs in America. Tell me spending $50 million for a mouse in San Francisco is going to help a struggling auto worker in Ohio? Impact for OH-08: 7,400 jobsRep. Jack Kingston (GA-01) Meanwhile out in San Francisco a rat is going to get $30 million in the so-called stimulus bill. Apparently it's a full employment bill for rats in the San Francisco Bay area ... Wait a minute. I just thought about it. That's why it's called a stimulus bill. It stimulates rats' activities so we can grow more rat families out in San Francisco. Impact for GA-01: 7,500 jobsRep. Dan Lungren (CA-03) When I look at this stimulus package and learn it has $30 million to protect the San Francisco marsh mice, I have to ask, is that becoming more French or is that just becoming more absurd? Impact for CA-03: 7,600 jobsMike Rogers (MI-08) They say there's no mouse in this bill. But there is, sir ... they will spend money on the salt marsh habitat for the mouse in San Francisco. Certainly the Speaker's getting her cheese, but people in Michigan are waiting for theirs. Cheese for MI-08: 8,000 jobsTom Price (GA-06) We found $30 million for mice. Got $30 million for mice. You can't be serious. What a joke. $30 million for mice. Does that create jobs? Impact for GA-06: 9,200 jobsAnd yes, Senate Republicans got in on the lie about the mouse too: Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX) And they're increasing spending to save a mouse in San Francisco that might be endangered. Impact for Texas: 269,000 jobsSen. Lamar Alexander (TN) We know that in the bill there's $50 million to save red bellied mice in San Francisco, something Speaker Pelosi has supported. Impact for Tennessee: 71,000 jobsLink Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56467-state-specific-details-of-impact-of-stimulus/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn85 438 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Today the White House has released "state-specific details on the local impact" the bill will have across the nation (52,000 in the State of Alabama alone). The proof will ultimately be in the pudding as they say, but I'm going to keep this post as a benchmark to track to. Remember, many Republicans railed against this package saying it would do "nothing to create jobs." A few examples (re: the infamous and now debunked lie about $30MM for mice): John Boehner (OH-08) When you look at some of the spending in this bill, it will do nothing about creating jobs in America. Tell me spending $50 million for a mouse in San Francisco is going to help a struggling auto worker in Ohio? Impact for OH-08: 7,400 jobsRep. Jack Kingston (GA-01) Meanwhile out in San Francisco a rat is going to get $30 million in the so-called stimulus bill. Apparently it's a full employment bill for rats in the San Francisco Bay area ... Wait a minute. I just thought about it. That's why it's called a stimulus bill. It stimulates rats' activities so we can grow more rat families out in San Francisco. Impact for GA-01: 7,500 jobsRep. Dan Lungren (CA-03) When I look at this stimulus package and learn it has $30 million to protect the San Francisco marsh mice, I have to ask, is that becoming more French or is that just becoming more absurd? Impact for CA-03: 7,600 jobsMike Rogers (MI-08) They say there's no mouse in this bill. But there is, sir ... they will spend money on the salt marsh habitat for the mouse in San Francisco. Certainly the Speaker's getting her cheese, but people in Michigan are waiting for theirs. Cheese for MI-08: 8,000 jobsTom Price (GA-06) We found $30 million for mice. Got $30 million for mice. You can't be serious. What a joke. $30 million for mice. Does that create jobs? Impact for GA-06: 9,200 jobsAnd yes, Senate Republicans got in on the lie about the mouse too: Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX) And they're increasing spending to save a mouse in San Francisco that might be endangered. Impact for Texas: 269,000 jobsSen. Lamar Alexander (TN) We know that in the bill there's $50 million to save red bellied mice in San Francisco, something Speaker Pelosi has supported. Impact for Tennessee: 71,000 jobsLink I do have a question, but already have an answer, but i want to double check... since the "buy american clause" is in there, that means the german based thyssen crupp steel plant that's set to open soon north of mobile, won't benefit from all of the infrastructure projects? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56467-state-specific-details-of-impact-of-stimulus/#findComment-582842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn85 438 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 since the "buy american clause" is in there, that means the german based thyssen crupp steel plant that's set to open soon north of mobile, won't benefit from all of the infrastructure projects? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56467-state-specific-details-of-impact-of-stimulus/#findComment-586076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsixfive 341 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Lets travel to la la land and assume this stimulus does everything it promised. There yet? Yeah, I know, it takes a while. Ok. We're there. So here's the question: how did spending 30M in a SF wild life preserve contribute? It didn't. Why was it in the STIMULUS bill then? Perhaps that money could have been spent elsewhere to even further stimulate the economy. Back to the real world (thankfully)... the underlying point is over half the crap in that "urgent" bill isn't geared towards stimulating the economy, no matter what political ideology to which a person adheres. Nothing. Therefore, WHY WAS IT IN THE BILL? An unnecessary $1T expense is much easier to swallow when the money is applied towards the stated purpose, and not the special interest items that were in there. If the items are important enough and warrant federal funding, which I'm sure some might have, vote on them separately. Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56467-state-specific-details-of-impact-of-stimulus/#findComment-586111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I think it's funny...the notion that you aren't allowed to criticize ANY of the bill if ANY OTHER part of the bill is actually helpful. What about the 3.7M going to old tiger stadium in the omnibus bill? Are we not allowed to criticize that? Considering that it's half torn down and hasn't been occupied since 1999? Or because some tangent part of the stimulus bill is going to create some jobs in Alabama, does the 3.7M getting thrown away in detriot get absolved from criticism? Link to comment https://www.aufamily.com/topic/56467-state-specific-details-of-impact-of-stimulus/#findComment-586117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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