Coming to America

[Tigermike 4,266]

$20.3 Million for the Resettlement of Palestinian Terrorists in America

Saturday, 14 February 2009 19:26

Hamas coming to America?

By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in migration assistance to the Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza.

The "presidential determination" which allows hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on February 4.

President Obama's decision, according to the Register, was necessitated by "the urgent refugee and migration needs" of the "victims."

Few on Capital Hill took note that the order provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006.

The charter for Hamas calls for the replacement of the nation of Israel with a Palestinian Islamic state.

Since its formation in 1994, Hamas has been responsible for hundreds of terrorist attacks, including the 2002 Passover suicide bombing. The leaders of the movement signed the World Islamic Statement of 1998 - - a document, penned by Osama bin Laden, which declared war on America and Israel.

President Obama's executive order is expected to bring hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, many with ties to radical Islam, to American shores, furthering a process that was inaugurated in 1995 by Senator Ted Kennedy and the Cedar-Hart bill.

http://www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488

[Federal Register: February 4, 2009 (Volume 74, Number 22)]

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Presidential Determination No. 2009-15 of January 27, 2009

Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related To Gaza Memorandum for the Secretary of State

By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 2©(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 (the ``Act''), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601), I hereby determine, pursuant to section 2©(1) of the Act, that it is important to the national interest to furnish assistance under the Act in an amount not to exceed $20.3 million from the United States Emergency

Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose of meeting unexpected and urgent refugee and migration needs, including by contributions to international, governmental, and nongovernmental organizations and payment of administrative expenses of Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department of State, related to humanitarian needs of Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza. You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

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[autiger4life 3]

Sorry, there seems to be a pretty big discrepancy between refugees and terrorist. I understand that the article says they have "ties" to Hamas, but the EO says they are refugees. Technically if they are refugees because of Hamas or Israeli rockets then that would give them ties to Hamas. It doesn't make them terrorist. Obviously I am against bring terrorist to America under any circumstance and I think everyone would agree so I think it is a little outrageous turn refugees into terrorist because this article hazily says "ties"

The EO clearly states it is for refugees or victims. All the article says is that people who are eligible might have voted for Hamas. First of all, that is a big might to take a refugee money and turn it into we are bringing terrorist here, and second of all I am sure Hamas doesn't hold the most democratic of elections, so I don't know what a vote really means here when you have a gun to your head and a pencil in your hand. If they even let them drop a card in the box, probably Hamas just wrote their name on the paper themselves. It just seems like a stretch here.

Edit: Can you post the source and the author of the article?

[Tigermike 4,266]

Edit: Can you post the source and the author of the article?

The links are there.

[Tigermike 4,266]

Sorry, there seems to be a pretty big discrepancy between refugees and terrorist. I understand that the article says they have "ties" to Hamas, but the EO says they are refugees. Technically if they are refugees because of Hamas or Israeli rockets then that would give them ties to Hamas. It doesn't make them terrorist. Obviously I am against bring terrorist to America under any circumstance and I think everyone would agree so I think it is a little outrageous turn refugees into terrorist because this article hazily says "ties"

The EO clearly states it is for refugees or victims. All the article says is that people who are eligible might have voted for Hamas. First of all, that is a big might to take a refugee money and turn it into we are bringing terrorist here, and second of all I am sure Hamas doesn't hold the most democratic of elections, so I don't know what a vote really means here when you have a gun to your head and a pencil in your hand. If they even let them drop a card in the box, probably Hamas just wrote their name on the paper themselves. It just seems like a stretch here.

Edit: Can you post the source and the author of the article?

How the hell will Obama and Hillary know which Palestinian’s were and were not firing rockets into Israel? How the hell are they going to know which ones were and are not members of Hamas?

How the hell will they know which ones don't have family members who are members of Hamas or other organizations?

Don’t worry about that, no problem.

[autiger4life 3]

And how the hell should I be expected to listen to an article that claims that a bill that specifically is designed to aid refugees and victims is actually going to be aiding Hamas terrorist when the article is written by Christians living in Israel. I am not sure if you could get more biased than that.

I mean, do you think it is possible that they do have a plan of identifying refugees. It isn't like it is the first time we have aided refugees in a war ridden area. I am pretty sure we do it every day in Africa.

Seems pretty crappy that there are all these refugees there and truly need help, who are just trying to survive and have a family survive, but they don't get help because people in Israel are telling us these refugees might be terrorist. I think I will choose to have a little more faith in my government then these writers who might have a little ill will towards anyone on the other side of the wall, refugee or not.

[Tigermike 4,266]

And how the hell should I be expected to listen to an article that claims that a bill that specifically is designed to aid refugees and victims is actually going to be aiding Hamas terrorist when the article is written by Christians living in Israel. I am not sure if you could get more biased than that. (Yeah shoot the messenger.)

I mean, do you think it is possible that they do have a plan of identifying refugees. (Hell no, the Palestinians have long been on the dims list of victims.) It isn't like it is the first time we have aided refugees in a war ridden area. I am pretty sure we do it every day in Africa.

Seems pretty crappy that there are all these refugees there and truly need help, who are just trying to survive and have a family survive, but they don't get help because people in Israel are telling us these refugees might be terrorist. I think I will choose to have a little more faith in my government then these writers who might have a little ill will towards anyone on the other side of the wall, refugee or not.

Those mean ole Israelis always out to hurt the poor peace loving Palestinians.

[Tigermike 4,266]

A good friend sent information which would indicate this may not be the case.

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[autiger4life 3]

A good friend sent information which would indicate this may not be the case.

First of all TM I would like to say thank you for getting information that might disprove your own point and still posting it. That is what can make this board better.

I would like to point out that in the future while I am certainly not advocating shooting the messenger as you implied, I am advocating being careful where the story comes from.

You are much less likely to listen to CNN bash Bush because of where it comes from and how biased they are. It is not shooting the messenger, it is being smart about who you listen too.

[arnaldoabru 11]

A good friend sent information which would indicate this may not be the case.

First of all TM I would like to say thank you for getting information that might disprove your own point and still posting it. That is what can make this board better.

I would like to point out that in the future while I am certainly not advocating shooting the messenger as you implied, I am advocating being careful where the story comes from.

You are much less likely to listen to CNN bash Bush because of where it comes from and how biased they are. It is not shooting the messenger, it is being smart about who you listen too.

But, then we couldn't scare anyone.

[OldNewby 27]

A good friend sent information which would indicate this may not be the case.

First of all TM I would like to say thank you for getting information that might disprove your own point and still posting it. That is what can make this board better.

I would like to point out that in the future while I am certainly not advocating shooting the messenger as you implied, I am advocating being careful where the story comes from.

You are much less likely to listen to CNN bash Bush because of where it comes from and how biased they are. It is not shooting the messenger, it is being smart about who you listen too.

But, then we couldn't scare anyone.

The only ones that are scaring me are President Obama, his administration, the Congress, and their defenders aka the willingly ignorant who refuse to educate themselves. Even though their agenda has failed before (FDR, LBJ, JEC), they think they're smart enough to make socialism work this time.

What goes around, comes around. Remember this as they overplay their hand. Freeloaders did not build this nation, but they are hellbent on tearing it down.

[autigeremt 7,549]

Not at my expense. I will make sure to keep my salary below whatever alloted cuttoff comes into play.

I will save my money and only spend what I need to.

I will find me a part time, under the table job to fund my leisure time.

I will buy up every firearm I can between now and the next gun ban.

I will only pay the minimum tax I have to.

I will work my ass off and never ask for a handout.

I will only earn what I deserve.

[Tigermike 4,266]

A good friend sent information which would indicate this may not be the case.

First of all TM I would like to say thank you for getting information that might disprove your own point and still posting it. That is what can make this board better.

I would like to point out that in the future while I am certainly not advocating shooting the messenger as you implied, I am advocating being careful where the story comes from.

You are much less likely to listen to CNN bash Bush because of where it comes from and how biased they are. It is not shooting the messenger, it is being smart about who you listen too.

But, then we couldn't scare anyone.

I wouldn't think any supporter of this administration would want to talk about scare tactics and fear mongering.

[autiger4life 3]

I wouldn't think any supporter of this administration would want to talk about scare tactics and fear mongering.

I'm with you TM. I can easily remember all of the nation yelling about Bush and his scare tactics with Iraq. Now apparently if you use scare tactics with the economy it is okay.

Both were scare tactics. Both are either okay or not okay.

And for clarification it is not scare tactics if it is true. Some would argue Bush's weren't because they were true, others would argue that Obama's isn't because its true. As usual, it is somewhere in the middle.

[Tigermike 4,266]

I wouldn't think any supporter of this administration would want to talk about scare tactics and fear mongering.

As usual, it is somewhere in the middle.

And that is a good point and it is somewhere Obama rarely visits and is unsure how to get there. But then there are many who ca say they knew that all along.