A little factoid about faux noos.

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1. The second biggest owner of faux noos is prince al waleed (most shares after rupert murdoch). He makes millions off of faux news.

2. prince al waleed is the guy that sponsors (read : give millions of dollars to) the wtc mosque. He is the guy that tried to pay rudi guliani millions of dollars after 9 11, the amount that was thrown back at his face.

3. The more ratings the mosque issue gives faux noos, the more prince makes money.

Have you noticed how faux noos talked about "where is the money coming from". Did you ever see them tell you exactly where it was coming from? It was coming from faux noos. That´s where it comes from.

The motives behind 911 attacks were not to destroy some buildings and kill some people. The motive was to drag America in a war, a paranoia, an economic imbroglio, polarization and put a rift between the Muslims and the Christians. We've lost our perspective, and did / are doing what they anticipated us to do.

These are all facts, without any slant. Before attacking me, tell me what part of the above statement do you disagree with.

[AFTiger 282]

Sources. Not getting much for his money is he?

[Aeronaut 0]

Sources. Not getting much for his money is he?

Sources for what? that prince al waleed is the significant shareholder in faux noos with shares worth $3 BILLION? or that he funded the wtc mosque? Here´s one link:

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/investing/news-corp-the-saudi-prince-and-the-ground-zero-mosque/19593554/

There are hundreds of links. Just google prince al waleed and you will get dozens of links.

About the money he gets from newscorp? well, two years ago NewsCorp had $3.5 Billion in cash and equivalents. Today that number is at $8 Billion.

Its all about MONEY and POWER. Hate is the strongest human emotion. When you can control the hatred of a group of people, those people are like puppets for you.

[AFTiger 282]

Its all about MONEY and POWER. Hate is the strongest human emotion. When you can control the hatred of a group of people, those people are like puppets for you.

Well that applies both ways including Obama, George Soros, the SEIU, and so forth. Just because some Arabian royal has invested heavily in Fox, dosen't mean that he controls the content or its effect. I hear more hate from you than I have ever heard from a conservative.

[arnaldoabru 11]

Don't forget ACORN

[AURaptor 1,137]

I see the tactic is now attack who makes money off Fox News, rather than face the fact that FOX has, is and will continue to mop the floor with all the other cable news networks combined.

S.Arabia still doesn't have any churches, and fox was right in reporting that fact. It has nothing to do w/ closing all the 1000's of mosques here in the United States, either. No one ever even hinted suggesting that, so to even bring that idea up is a complete and total straw man argument.

[TigerHeat 9]

I see the tactic is now attack who makes money off Fox News, rather than face the fact that FOX has, is and will continue to mop the floor with all the other cable news networks combined.

S.Arabia still doesn't have any churches, and fox was right in reporting that fact. It has nothing to do w/ closing all the 1000's of mosques here in the United States, either. No one ever even hinted suggesting that, so to even bring that idea up is a complete and total straw man argument.

Why do you hate Muslims/Black people/women/Irish/Hispanics/GlobalWarmers/insert anyone convenient?

[Aeronaut 0]

I see the tactic is now attack who makes money off Fox News, rather than face the fact that FOX has, is and will continue to mop the floor with all the other cable news networks combined.

S.Arabia still doesn't have any churches, and fox was right in reporting that fact. It has nothing to do w/ closing all the 1000's of mosques here in the United States, either. No one ever even hinted suggesting that, so to even bring that idea up is a complete and total straw man argument.

Where the heck did this come in from? No offense to you, personally, but that has to be one of the most stupid argument I've ever read.

Yeah, Saudi Arabia does not have any Churches. That's how they are. It's the part of their legal system. Switzerland does not have any mosques with minarets. It's part of their legal system. Taliban destroyed historic Buddhist statues. That's how THEY want to be. I don't want to be like them. I don't like being compared to any of them. I don't even like 'what they do' being brought up when discussion OUR future.

I have heard a dozen times on faux noos that "they can build a mosque when they build a Church in Riyadh". You want America to be like a Christian version of saudi arabia, I don't. That discussion is over. It is clear, and I am not going back to that thread.

The point of this thread goes like this:

Faux noos keeps showing clips saying things like "we should know where the money is coming from ... terrorist sympathisers, funding the mosque blah blah " ... well, $305,000 came from a major shareholder of faux noos. Why wouldn't they ever mention his name instead of coming on screen acting all clueless?

[Aeronaut 0]

Its all about MONEY and POWER. Hate is the strongest human emotion. When you can control the hatred of a group of people, those people are like puppets for you.

Well that applies both ways including Obama, George Soros, the SEIU, and so forth. Just because some Arabian royal has invested heavily in Fox, dosen't mean that he controls the content or its effect. I hear more hate from you than I have ever heard from a conservative.

Last time, don't attack me personally when you are lacking an argument.

[tiger88 934]

Its all about MONEY and POWER. Hate is the strongest human emotion. When you can control the hatred of a group of people, those people are like puppets for you.

Well that applies both ways including Obama, George Soros, the SEIU, and so forth. Just because some Arabian royal has invested heavily in Fox, dosen't mean that he controls the content or its effect. I hear more hate from you than I have ever heard from a conservative.

Last time, don't attack me personally when you are lacking an argument.

This guy makes arnie seem intelligent.

[arnaldoabru 11]

Its all about MONEY and POWER. Hate is the strongest human emotion. When you can control the hatred of a group of people, those people are like puppets for you.

Well that applies both ways including Obama, George Soros, the SEIU, and so forth. Just because some Arabian royal has invested heavily in Fox, dosen't mean that he controls the content or its effect. I hear more hate from you than I have ever heard from a conservative.

Last time, don't attack me personally when you are lacking an argument.

This guy makes arnie seem intelligent.

He just hasn't learned to dumb it down yet

[AURaptor 1,137]

I see the tactic is now attack who makes money off Fox News, rather than face the fact that FOX has, is and will continue to mop the floor with all the other cable news networks combined.

S.Arabia still doesn't have any churches, and fox was right in reporting that fact. It has nothing to do w/ closing all the 1000's of mosques here in the United States, either. No one ever even hinted suggesting that, so to even bring that idea up is a complete and total straw man argument.

Where the heck did this come in from? No offense to you, personally, but that has to be one of the most stupid argument I've ever read.

( this , coming from YOU, is priceless - You presented this absurd disconnect in the other thread, which is why I'm bringing it up here. )

Yeah, Saudi Arabia does not have any Churches. That's how they are. It's the part of their legal system. Switzerland does not have any mosques with minarets. It's part of their legal system. Taliban destroyed historic Buddhist statues. That's how THEY want to be. I don't want to be like them. I don't like being compared to any of them. I don't even like 'what they do' being brought up when discussion OUR future.

( Well, tough. Merely pointing out the facts seems to have you more nervous than a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. And don't think I missed that "with minarets " nugget you tried to slip in there about.... Switzerland ? What's THAT have to do with anything ? They DO have mosques, right ? They DO allow Muslims to practice ,openly, right ? Man, you have less than zero point there, yet you tried.....sad. )

I have heard a dozen times on *FOX NEWS that "they can build a mosque when they build a Church in Riyadh". You want America to be like a Christian version of saudi arabia, I don't. That discussion is over. It is clear, and I am not going back to that thread.

( There are already 1000's of mosques here in the USA, and likely dozens in / around Manhattan. If you don't see the significances in the comment of building ONE church in S.Arabia before we allow them to build a brand NEW mosque at the WTC, then you really are more disingenuous than I figured. )

The point of this thread goes like this:

FOX NEWS keeps showing clips saying things like "we should know where the money is coming from ... terrorist sympathisers, funding the mosque blah blah " ... well, $305,000 came from a major shareholder of FOX NEWS. Why wouldn't they ever mention his name instead of coming on screen acting all clueless?

It'll take far more than $300,000 to build that mosque, and it's a legitimate question to ask. Also,...

Amid Rift, Imam’s Role in Islam Center Is Sharply Cut

By PAUL VITELLO

Published: January 14, 2011

Long-simmering tensions between co-founders of the proposed Islamic center and mosque near ground zero led to a parting of the ways on Friday that sharply reduced the role of one: the imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, long the project’s public face.

*FOX NEWS - That's the name of the organization, not 'faux noos'. Unless you're a 12 yr old, you're not going to be taken seriously by responding like that. Such childish name calling and juvenile mocking on a consistent basis is counter to engaging in any adult conversations.

[jj3jordan 2,161]

1. The second biggest owner of faux noos is prince al waleed (most shares after rupert murdoch). He makes millions off of faux news.

2. prince al waleed is the guy that sponsors (read : give millions of dollars to) the wtc mosque. He is the guy that tried to pay rudi guliani millions of dollars after 9 11, the amount that was thrown back at his face.

3. The more ratings the mosque issue gives faux noos, the more prince makes money.

Have you noticed how faux noos talked about "where is the money coming from". Did you ever see them tell you exactly where it was coming from? It was coming from faux noos. That´s where it comes from.

The motives behind 911 attacks were not to destroy some buildings and kill some people. The motive was to drag America in a war, a paranoia, an economic imbroglio, polarization and put a rift between the Muslims and the Christians. We've lost our perspective, and did / are doing what they anticipated us to do.

These are all facts, without any slant. Before attacking me, tell me what part of the above statement do you disagree with.

Lots of it. If I follow your link, I see that al waleed through another big company owns 7% of News Corp, another big company who owns and operates Fox News. That is quite different from how you presented it. There is quite a bit of separation there, and al waleed has no influence or control and I doubt he makes "billions" from Fox News. FNC is asking good questions. Are you implying they know this and won't report it? I don't care. My guess is that the other 93% owners of NewsCorp contain several folks I consider ne'er do wells.

Do I want the mosque there? No

Do I like or trust Muslims? No Why? Because their stated goal is to destroy us, invade our land and subject us to their Godless sharia law.

Fox News reports a lot of stuff that I happen to believe is true. It conflicts with the left party line so a lot of people get angry with them. Somebody has to counteract the lefts BS with a little fact.

Why do you persist in disparaging FNC? Do they bother/scare you? Why do you care what they say, or who owns some shares of their parent corp?

[Aeronaut 0]

1. ( this , coming from YOU, is priceless - You presented this absurd disconnect in the other thread, which is why I'm bringing it up here. )

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I have heard a dozen times on *FOX NEWS that "they can build a mosque when they build a Church in Riyadh". You want America to be like a Christian version of saudi arabia, I don't. That discussion is over. It is clear, and I am not going back to that thread.

2. ( There are already 1000's of mosques here in the USA, and likely dozens in / around Manhattan. If you don't see the significances in the comment of building ONE church in S.Arabia before we allow them to build a brand NEW mosque at the WTC, then you really are more disingenuous than I figured. )

3. *FOX NEWS - That's the name of the organization, not 'faux noos'. Unless you're a 12 yr old, you're not going to be taken seriously by responding like that. Such childish name calling and juvenile mocking on a consistent basis is counter to engaging in any adult conversations.

1. I left that thread because I had made my point. I didn't see the point in talking to a loonie, but I guess you are still stuck on that issue and will continue to follow me around everywhere.

2. A news channel trying to infuriate Americans against Americans (of a different religion), because there's no Church in another country. Got it. Think about your "We allow Them" BS there for a second.

By "Them" you mean the American Muslims living in New York? or do you mean "Saudi Arabians"? You want to target American Muslims to make a point to the Saudi king? That's sad, pathetic, idiotic, unamerican, and borderline retarded.

Should we kill all the Afghan Americans? I mean that sure will tell the Talibans to stop messing with American troops, right? How about Iranian Americans? Lets put them all in detention till Iran stops the Nuclear Program.

Now will you quit barking up the mosque issue? did you get your full or are you going to come here and parrot me some more of your bloody retarded BS that some dumb uneducated racist SOB filled you up at the last tea part loonies gathering?

3. faux news. that better? I really don't think you are even capable of an adult conversation so I'll call it faux news. You can continue using emoticons and presenting arguments that show that your IQ matches that of a tree.

[Aeronaut 0]

Lots of it. If I follow your link, I see that al waleed through another big company owns 7% of News Corp, another big company who owns and operates Fox News. That is quite different from how you presented it. There is quite a bit of separation there, and al waleed has no influence or control and I doubt he makes "billions" from Fox News. FNC is asking good questions. Are you implying they know this and won't report it? I don't care. My guess is that the other 93% owners of NewsCorp contain several folks I consider ne'er do wells.

Do I want the mosque there? No

Do I like or trust Muslims? No Why? Because their stated goal is to destroy us, invade our land and subject us to their Godless sharia law.

Fox News reports a lot of stuff that I happen to believe is true. It conflicts with the left party line so a lot of people get angry with them. Somebody has to counteract the lefts BS with a little fact.

Why do you persist in disparaging FNC? Do they bother/scare you? Why do you care what they say, or who owns some shares of their parent corp?

Well, Kingdom foundation is owned by one person. al-waleed bin talal. It's a one man company. Fox news is OWNED and Operated by NEWSCORP. NEWSCORP is a public trading company with around 30% of stocks retained by Rupert Murdoch and family. The second biggest shareholder after rupert murdoch is alwaleed bin talal.

He obviously does not make billions off of it. He has invested BILLIONS in the owner company of fox news. $3 Billion.

If you think it's ok for faux news to insinuate that 'where is the money coming from' without actually telling you where it is coming from, then I guess you are perfectly ok with being misguided.

Why do I hate faux news? because over almost the last decade they have filled up the mind of it's viewers with stuff like this:"Do I like or trust Muslims? No Why? Because their stated goal is to destroy us, invade our land and subject us to their Godless sharia law."

Man, there are 1.4 BILLION muslims in the world. Let that number sink in for a moment. If 1.4 billion people really had a stated goal to destroy us, we'd be destroyed. You know even if 1 in 100 Muslims had THAT stated goal, that would be an army of 14 Million. 4.5 times the size of Chinese army.

I'd put the number of extremists at around 1 in 10,000 Muslims. That will give you around 140K-170K extremists.

Here's a funny twist: we have invaded them, and are subjecting them to our godly democracy law only if it's lead by our puppet.

[AFTiger 282]

So this isn't about Fox News. It is about your opposition to the war on extreme islam. You know, the ones who keep trying to kill us? You are entitiled to your opinion but don't project it onto us.

The fact remains, that Fox News reports stories that are important but not reported by the more tradional media. Must be why it is so popular.

[AURaptor 1,137]

1. I left that thread because I had made my point. I didn't see the point in talking to a loonie, but I guess you are still stuck on that issue and will continue to follow me around everywhere.

( You're the one who made the irrational attempt to draw a connection between 2 unrelated issues )

2. A news channel trying to infuriate Americans against Americans (of a different religion), because there's no Church in another country. Got it. Think about your "We allow Them" BS there for a second. ( If the facts infuriate, the so be it. Yes, that IS the question at hand - ALLOWING THEM - Who...the Irish ? The Japanese ? Comedians ? No - MUSLIMS, those who want to build the mosque at the WTC cite. Yes, THEM )

By "Them" you mean the American Muslims living in New York? or do you mean "Saudi Arabians"? You want to target American Muslims to make a point to the Saudi king? That's sad, pathetic, idiotic, unamerican, and borderline retarded.

Should we kill all the Afghan Americans? I mean that sure will tell the Talibans to stop messing with American troops, right? How about Iranian Americans? Lets put them all in detention till Iran stops the Nuclear Program.

( Now who's the lunatic ? You leap from the issue of not wanting to allow a mosque to be built at the WTC to murdering Afghan, Iranian , etc...Americans. )

Now will you quit barking up the mosque issue? did you get your full or are you going to come here and parrot me some more of your bloody retarded BS that some dumb uneducated racist SOB filled you up at the last tea part loonies gathering? ( Wasn't there some rule about name calling on this board ? That's just funny. Let's double check the rules here, shall we ?

" From this point forward, there is a zero tolerance policy on all personal jabs, insults, attacks, name-calling and such toward other board members. This goes for explicit remarks as well as smartalec implied ones. If a moderator sees you insult anyone, imply they are stupid, or anything else that smacks of a personal attack, your post will be edited or deleted. If a particular member persists in breaking this rule, other consequences will follow that include temporary suspensions, loss of privileges to post in the Politics Forum and as a last resort, banning. "

You're new here. I guess the mods will let this once slide. Maybe. We'll have to wait and see.

3. FOX news. that better? I really don't think you are even capable of an adult conversation so I'll call it FOX news. You can continue using emoticons and presenting arguments that show that your IQ matches that of a tree. ( Thanks for proving my point for me. )

Last time, don't attack me personally when you are lacking an argument.

[AFTiger 282]

Its all about MONEY and POWER. Hate is the strongest human emotion. When you can control the hatred of a group of people, those people are like puppets for you.

Well that applies both ways including Obama, George Soros, the SEIU, and so forth. Just because some Arabian royal has invested heavily in Fox, dosen't mean that he controls the content or its effect. I hear more hate from you than I have ever heard from a conservative.

Last time, don't attack me personally when you are lacking an argument.

You will know a personal attack when you get one. I hear more hate and racism from liberals than any other group. Meanwhile, don't deflect.

[jj3jordan 2,161]

Lots of it. If I follow your link, I see that al waleed through another big company owns 7% of News Corp, another big company who owns and operates Fox News. That is quite different from how you presented it. There is quite a bit of separation there, and al waleed has no influence or control and I doubt he makes "billions" from Fox News. FNC is asking good questions. Are you implying they know this and won't report it? I don't care. My guess is that the other 93% owners of NewsCorp contain several folks I consider ne'er do wells.

Do I want the mosque there? No

Do I like or trust Muslims? No Why? Because their stated goal is to destroy us, invade our land and subject us to their Godless sharia law.

Fox News reports a lot of stuff that I happen to believe is true. It conflicts with the left party line so a lot of people get angry with them. Somebody has to counteract the lefts BS with a little fact.

Why do you persist in disparaging FNC? Do they bother/scare you? Why do you care what they say, or who owns some shares of their parent corp?

Well, Kingdom foundation is owned by one person. al-waleed bin talal. It's a one man company. Fox news is OWNED and Operated by NEWSCORP. NEWSCORP is a public trading company with around 30% of stocks retained by Rupert Murdoch and family. The second biggest shareholder after rupert murdoch is alwaleed bin talal.

Obviously you don't perceive a threat from Muslims and refuse to acknowledge their stated goal of world domination, sharia law, and destruction of infidels. And I know that 1.4 billion Muslims aren't willing to blow themselves up. If you don't see the threat from them then your information source is lacking. FNC is not my source for the goals of Islamic domination, that would be them. I'm a little surprised that you aren't suspicious that al-aweed may have a lot more influence than he should as a large shareholder of Fox News.

He obviously does not make billions off of it. He has invested BILLIONS in the owner company of fox news. $3 Billion.

BTW $3B is a couple of days of pumping. Is his investment so he can influence US public opinion/maybe even policy from the inside? Don't ever doubt the objective of these people.

If you think it's ok for faux news to insinuate that 'where is the money coming from' without actually telling you where it is coming from, then I guess you are perfectly ok with being misguided.

I'd love for FNC to expose this money trail, if it is true, and let public sentiment run amok. Maybe they aren't so much the antagonist you think they are.

Why do I hate faux news? because over almost the last decade they have filled up the mind of it's viewers with stuff like this:"Do I like or trust Muslims? No Why? Because their stated goal is to destroy us, invade our land and subject us to their Godless sharia law."

Like I said, don't ask FNC what the goals of Muslims are: Ask them, they will tell you, oh, and it is also published...in the Quran.

Man, there are 1.4 BILLION muslims in the world. Let that number sink in for a moment. If 1.4 billion people really had a stated goal to destroy us, we'd be destroyed. You know even if 1 in 100 Muslims had THAT stated goal, that would be an army of 14 Million. 4.5 times the size of Chinese army.

They haven't been able to yet because they live in the 7th century. Now that we have educated millions of them, they have infiltrated us and are systematically imposing their culture on us through the courts, schools, and infrastructure. Those are facts, not FNC propaganda.

I'd put the number of extremists at around 1 in 10,000 Muslims. That will give you around 140K-170K extremists.

Don't care what your estimate of extremists are. They are the easy ones to identify, it's the other group we need to worry about.

Here's a funny twist: we have invaded them, and are subjecting them to our godly democracy law only if it's lead by our puppet.

We haven't invaded anyone. We are destroying the Taliban, and we deposed a vicious dictator.

I wish we would leave the politicians and lawyers at home, lay waste to Afghanistan, and anyone else who is harboring terrorists. The way to declare victory is when our tank battalion commander is eating lunch in the snack bar at the golf course and going to Baskin-Robbins in the BX mall for dessert.

[autigeremt 7,147]

Its all about MONEY and POWER. Hate is the strongest human emotion. When you can control the hatred of a group of people, those people are like puppets for you.

Well that applies both ways including Obama, George Soros, the SEIU, and so forth. Just because some Arabian royal has invested heavily in Fox, dosen't mean that he controls the content or its effect. I hear more hate from you than I have ever heard from a conservative.

Last time, don't attack me personally when you are lacking an argument.

You will know a personal attack when you get one. I hear more hate and racism from liberals than any other group. Meanwhile, don't deflect.

So TRUE!!!!!!

[Aeronaut 0]

I've never deflected anything. I refuse to get drawn into a discussion with someone that is so blindly in love with faux news and the loony bin tea party that he refuses to even acknowledge FACTS.

My source of information is not a news channel. I was in afpak the last few years, working on, in addition to what I will write here, things that I can't disclose.

Prelude: There is a sect in Islam called Wahabi'ism. A Wahabi believes that all "non-believers" must be converted to their form of Islam, or be murdered. Muslims like the Suni and Shia, who the Wahabis claim are practicing a “false” version of Islam, face the same fate as the non-believers and are the "First to be cleansed". The entire Muslim world is going through a civil war. Thousands of Sunni and Shia have been murdered by Wahabis for following the "false" version of Islam. That sect is lead by the saudi royal family, the bin laden family, and the other elite in saudi arabia.

Fact 1: The biggest enemy is NOT Islam. There are 1.4 BILLION muslims. The biggest enemy is Wahabi'ism sect.

Fact 2: The only party benefiting from an afghan imbroglio is royal family of Saudi Arabia. Peace in Afghanistan and Pakistan will mean that they will be able to open a land route (pipeline) to Russia. Pakistan and Afghanistan will benefit from that, and they want it. However Saudis do not want to give up market by letting another source. That is why there is no chance for peace in Afghanistan. The head of the devil is somewhere else.

Fact 3: The religion followed by alqaeda and taliban is not mainstream Islam. Islam has multiple sects. Taliban, alqaeda and saudi govt share the same sect, called wahabi'ism.

Fact 4: Wahabi'ism was introduced by Saudis in Pakistan and Afghanistan in early 80s. Since that time it has been spreading thanks to the financing of saudi govt. Now wahabi'ism is very strong in Iraq, Sudan, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Somalia.

Fact 5: The biggest target of taliban and alqaed is not America / Americans. It's the Shia Muslims and the followers of other sects of Islam (which are declared by wahabis as bigger infidels and should be murdered). That's behind the violence in Iraq, and Pakistan. Wahabiism is growing at a very fast pace, as the saudis pump billions of dollars into the system.

Fact 6: 7% of faux news is owned by a member of Saudi royal family. A lot of the times the propaganda on faux news is EXACTLY what will benefit the saudi royals. The war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and an attack on Iran are all beneficial to Saudis.

I know that it will not change your ideology, because it is easy to generalize. However I do hope that there might be one odd person among you guys that would like to know the facts, and maybe do his / her own research.

Here are some terrorist organizations that follow wahabi'ism, are supported by saudis:

1. Pakistan : Taliban, Sepah Sahaba

2. Afghanistan : Taliban

3. Egypt : Muslim Brotherhood

4. Yemen : AQAP

5. Iraq : Al Qaeda in Iraq, and a slew of other wahabi organizations.

Heck, there are so many wahabi terrorist organizations that it will take me the whole day to just script it.

I am a firm follower of most of the republican fundamental ideologies. I hate the fact that the party has sold it's soul, and is controlled by the oil tycoons that work in cohorts with who are the biggest enemies of Americans and Muslims.

So are you going to tell a Muslim who is being targeted by Saudi financed and backed Wahabi terrorism that he is evil, while george bush walks around holding hands with the king of saudi arabia? or are you going to tell him that when Obama bends over in front of that pathetic son of a .... ?

[AFTiger 282]

You have done your research well and your dislike of Washbasin is shared by all of us. But your connection to Fox News is tenuous. Fox News is and remains the more reliable source of television news available to us. Where the others hide the connections of radical Islam to daily event, Fox points them out. Where other sources urge caution in conclusions after a Jihadist in the US Army murders American soldiers, Fox points it out. Where others immediately blame Sarah Palin for the murders in Tucson, Fox rightly points out that she had nothing to do with it. While other blame harsh rhetoric from the right, Fox rightly points out the extreme rhetoric from the Democrats. Fox demonstrates its neutrality when it show that the Council on Arab Islamic Relations (CAIR) does not have American interests in mind. Fox revealed that the developer of the Ground Zero Mosque had funding from (gasp) Saudi Arabia. Who is responsible for that daily attacks in Europe? Pakistani immigrants or Saudi immigrants?

So while your fact about Wahabism may be correct, your conclusions about Fox News are entirely off base.

[Aeronaut 0]

You have done your research well and your dislike of Washbasin is shared by all of us. But your connection to Fox News is tenuous. Fox News is and remains the more reliable source of television news available to us. Where the others hide the connections of radical Islam to daily event, Fox points them out. Where other sources urge caution in conclusions after a Jihadist in the US Army murders American soldiers, Fox points it out. Where others immediately blame Sarah Palin for the murders in Tucson, Fox rightly points out that she had nothing to do with it. While other blame harsh rhetoric from the right, Fox rightly points out the extreme rhetoric from the Democrats. Fox demonstrates its neutrality when it show that the Council on Arab Islamic Relations (CAIR) does not have American interests in mind. Fox revealed that the developer of the Ground Zero Mosque had funding from (gasp) Saudi Arabia. Who is responsible for that daily attacks in Europe? Pakistani immigrants or Saudi immigrants?

So while your fact about Wahabism may be correct, your conclusions about Fox News are entirely off base.

There is NO reliable news source on tv.

The terrorists don't have any nationality. Few months back 10 odd Americans were arrested in Pakistan on terrorism charges. The percentage of Americans arrested in Pakistan for terrorism is higher than percentage of Pakistanis arrested for terrorism in America. Does that make any sense to you?

Saudi funded terrorist organizations are responsible for ... what you consider 'daily attacks in europe'. I live in Europe. It's not the man with the backpack, it's the ideology and the ones funding the ideology that need to be exposed.

$3 Billion investment is paying off very well for the saudi royal family. It would've worked to perfection had they been able to convince US govt to attack Iran (sworn enemies, considered heretic and infidels by wahabis). Is faux still busy beating the war drum or have they stopped?

Next time you are listening to faux, try to see through the fog and know exactly why they are saying what they are saying. However I am sure I wasted my time writing all that. You are right. the 600,000 Pakistanis in America are terrorists. And the 7 Million Muslims in America want you dead.

[AFTiger 282]

[AURaptor 1,137]

Aeronaut - you're right about 1 thing. You have indeed wasted our time with your incoherent ramblings and perpetual claims of having spent time in AFPAK.

Hope you took lots of neat photos.