Trivia Thread

[BeasFan 3]

Which FBS team has the most consecutive seasons with nine wins or better? How far back do you have to go to find that team?

[Rocket City Tiger 4]

Without doing research, I'd say Ohio State. I'd guess 7 years in a row of 9+ wins.

[BeasFan 3]

Without doing research, I'd say Ohio State. I'd guess 7 years in a row of 9+ wins.

Reasonable.

Going by

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/misc_facts/win_seasons.php?win=10

it would appear Oklahoma has a better chance than most, so I looked at http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/big12/oklahoma/yearly_totals.php

and saw that between 1973 and 1980 they had 8 such seasons.

I have yet to look further for more seasons than 8, nor to check Ohio State's page for better years for them.

According to that list of 10+ Wins, Auburn has 12 seasons with 10 or more.

Auburn's Yearly Totals are at http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/auburn/yearly_totals.php and I was there trying to find out why the all-time W/L numbers for Auburn are different from other sites' counts.

Any ideas?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_win-loss_records

Team Won Lost Tied Pct. Years Total Games Conference

Auburn 703 400 47 .632 117 1150 SEC

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/auburn/index.php

All Time Football Record

710-400-47

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_team_page.php?teamname=Auburn&teamyrfrom=1869&teamyrthru=2010

Record (703-400-47)--0.632

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1869&end=2010&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Win+Pct

Rank Team name Winning Percentage Games Won Games Lost Games Tied Games Played

15 Auburn 0.63174 703 400 47 1150

[Rocket City Tiger 4]

For some reason, I was thinking that you were looking for consecutive and current 9+ win streak.

Hmm, 7 game win difference seems to me like these sites reflecting 7 wins vacated at some point. Interesting. Maybe Stat can help us out here.

[BeasFan 3]

For some reason, I was thinking that you were looking for consecutive and current 9+ win streak.

Hmm, 7 game win difference seems to me like these sites reflecting 7 wins vacated at some point. Interesting. Maybe Stat can help us out here.

The 7 game discrepancy is probably just what you suspect. I'm in the process of looking for where things go haywire. Meanwhile, the CFB Data Warehouse has a red flag up as far as I'm concerned. A pity, since there's so much fun stuff there.

And I see I wasn't clear in the OP. Not necessarily current, just longest consecutive, whenever. Those Auburn 10+ years are scattered about over the years. My query is super trivial, for sure, but that's what I though this thread could be about.

I figured we could be a little more "authoritative" (i.e., accurate) than "Yahoo! Answers" and places like that.

[BeasFan 3]

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/alabama/yearly_totals.php

Between 1971 and 1981 (under Guess Who) Bama had 11 9-or-better seasons. Surely somebody's done better than that, right?

[WarTiger 4,014]

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/alabama/yearly_totals.php

Between 1971 and 1981 (under Guess Who) Bama had 11 9-or-better seasons. Surely somebody's done better than that, right?

NEBRASKA SHATTERS that record. Get this. 33 straight years with 9 wins or better from 1969-2001. See for yourself...HERE:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/big12/nebraska/yearly_totals.php

Absolutely REMARKABLE!!

[BeasFan 3]

Hmm, 7 game win difference seems to me like these sites reflecting 7 wins vacated at some point. Interesting. Maybe Stat can help us out here.

That 7-game discrepancy appears to be from the early days. I have yet to find the "official yearly totals" so I have only been able to locate those years where two of the trivia sites differ.

At the moment CFB Data Warehouse seems to be having network issues, but the two sites where I did my comparisons are

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/auburn/index.php

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_records.php?fry=1869&thy=2010&teamname=Auburn&spl=on&sortby=Year&ascend=on&cres=3

The affected years are:

Auburn Yearly Totals

Year Coach Win Loss Tie Pct. PF PA Delta

1891 George Petrie 1 0 0 1.00000 10 0 10

(not shown on CF Trivia)

1893 G.H. Harvey 2 0 2 0.75000 84 40 44

1893 Auburn (3-0-2)--0.80000*

1904 Mike Donahue 7 0 0 1.00000 170 11 159

1904 Auburn (5-0-0)--1.00000

1905 Mike Donahue 4 4 0 0.50000 148 96 52

1905 Auburn (2-4-0)--0.33333

1909 Mike Donahue 6 2 0 0.75000 140 39 101

1909 Auburn (5-2-0)--0.71429

1911 Mike Donahue 5 2 1 0.68750 103 45 58

1911 Auburn (4-2-1)--0.64286

1912 Mike Donahue 7 1 1 0.83333 206 45 161

1912 Auburn (6-1-1)--0.81250

Until I can locate the "official" version all I can say is that these are the difference numbers.

In addition, the CFB Trivia site had these footnotes:

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_records.php?fry=1869&thy=2010&teamname=Auburn&spl=on&sortby=Year&ascend=on&cres=3

* - May be disputed

1 Auburn has a game record of (3-6-2) in 1975 - Official - (4-6-1)(1 forfeit win)

2 Auburn has a game record of (3-8-0) in 1976 - Official - (4-7-0)(1 forfeit win)

3 Auburn has a game record of (5-6-0) in 1977 - Official - (6-5-0)(1 forfeit win)

*** The Data Warehouse numbers were not in dispute!

[BeasFan 3]

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/alabama/yearly_totals.php

Between 1971 and 1981 (under Guess Who) Bama had 11 9-or-better seasons. Surely somebody's done better than that, right?

NEBRASKA SHATTERS that record. Get this. 33 straight years with 9 wins or better from 1969-2001. See for yourself...HERE:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/big12/nebraska/yearly_totals.php

Absolutely REMARKABLE!!

As I just mentioned, I'm unable to get to CFB Data Warehouse at the moment to "see for myself" but I have no doubt you're correct about Nebraska. They were hosses back then.

We now have a new figure to beat. What are the chances somebody else has even better numbers?

[aucanucktiger 1,889]

Football Stassen is a user friendly, reliable source too.

How far back are we allowed to go? Remember that before Rockne (1918) football was remarkably similar to what we have today, w/ 2 platoon teams and a good bit of forward passing (w/ a ball about as fat as a rugby ball).

If Nebraska impresses take a look @ other teams that PLAYED 8 OR MORE GAMES EVERY SEASON. Yale (started playing football 1872). Between 1882 - 1910 played 13 to 16 games against the best teams almost every year since they had a liberal team travel policy w/ an occasional 11 game season. During that period their record was 296-13-13.

Not real football? Try Michigan's 8+ seasons w/ 2 platoon, forward passing teams. Between 1900 - 1905 not only was their record 55-1-1, the 1901 team that played 11 games played every top ranked team, outscoring them 555-0 and winning the rose bowl 49-0. Their HC was Fielding Yost, guess where he was HC before Michigan? the Univ. of Nebraska, when they were called...I kid you not... the Nebraska "Bugeaters". Yost practiced law full time while HC.

IMO one of the most amazing modern day records is FSU's consecutive years finishing in the top 5 of I think 14 consecutive year during the '80s & '90s. I don't see us seeing that eclipsed for a while. Of course it wouldn't have been consecutive but for the ref missing Freddie Weygand getting mugged by Dedrick Dodge @ the one foot line w/ 30 sec.s to go in the Sugar bowl.

[BeasFan 3]

Football Stassen is a user friendly, reliable source too.

How far back are we allowed to go?

I'll check Stassen. Thanks.

No limits on the lookback.

Great post!

ETA: I was able to check the Stassen data ( http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/fetch-team.pl?team=Auburn ) and it appears to agree with the version at CFB Trivia.

Does anybody have a link to either Auburn's, SEC's, or NCAA's versions of the Auburn yearly numbers?

If there's an even more "official" version, what is it?

[Auburnfan91 1,408]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_win-loss_records

Team Won Lost Tied Pct. Years Total Games Conference

Auburn 703 400 47 .632 117 1150 SEC

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/auburn/index.php

All Time Football Record

710-400-47

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_team_page.php?teamname=Auburn&teamyrfrom=1869&teamyrthru=2010

Record (703-400-47)--0.632

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1869&end=2010&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Win+Pct

Rank Team name Winning Percentage Games Won Games Lost Games Tied Games Played

15 Auburn 0.63174 703 400 47 1150

I checked in the Auburn game program I got from the Arkansas game this year and the 703-400-47 record is accurate. If you add up all the coaches win-loss records in Auburn history that's what you get.

[BeasFan 3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_win-loss_records

Team Won Lost Tied Pct. Years Total Games Conference

Auburn 703 400 47 .632 117 1150 SEC

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/auburn/index.php

All Time Football Record

710-400-47

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_team_page.php?teamname=Auburn&teamyrfrom=1869&teamyrthru=2010

Record (703-400-47)--0.632

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1869&end=2010&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Win+Pct

Rank Team name Winning Percentage Games Won Games Lost Games Tied Games Played

15 Auburn 0.63174 703 400 47 1150

I checked in the Auburn game program I got from the Arkansas game this year and the 703-400-47 record is accurate. If you add up all the coaches win-loss records in Auburn history that's what you get.

Convincing enough. Thanks. The weight of numbers/sources seemed too strong on the 703-400-47 for the other to be right. I guess the remaining task on this issue is to figure out why the CFB Data Warehouse stays with wrong numbers.

Sadly, their comparisons with other teams must now be regarded as at least suspicious and possibly misleading. Bummer.

[BeasFan 3]

Just wanted to report that the 2010 Media Guide ( http://auburntigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/10-media-guide.html ), starting on Page 184, shows the individual games' results by year. Those pages support the notion that College Football Data Warehouse ( http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/auburn/yearly_totals.php ) is showing incorrect figures for the seasons mentioned upthread at Post #8. To me that suggests not relying too heavily on trivia gleaned from CFBDW. A pity.

[BeasFan 3]

*** NEW TRIVIA CHALLENGE ***

Accepting that CFBDW may have some problems with accuracy, especially in older seasons as I mentioned above, there are still some fun things to use them for as a starting point -- hopefully with corroboration from another source, if possible.

At http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sunbelt/arkansas_state/yearly_totals.php you can observe:

Arkansas State Yearly Totals

Year Coach      Win Loss Tie Pct.    PF  PA  Delta  
1941 Bill Adams  0   7    0  0.00000 0  308  -308

The challenge is to find:

1) a more recent season where a team goes scoreless all year

2) a season with more games where the team doesn't score a point

[AU! 0]

After a quick initial look, i don't know if such a season exists in Div-1A football. But while we're at it, can we all briefly acknowledge 1914.

This what a year in which Mike Donahue lead Auburn to an undefeated season in which not a single point was scored against Auburn. We won every game but one, a 0-0 tie with Georgia.

Has there been a 0-0 tie before or since?

[BeasFan 3]

After a quick initial look, i don't know if such a season exists in Div-1A football. But while we're at it, can we all briefly acknowledge 1914.

This what a year in which Mike Donahue lead Auburn to an undefeated season in which not a single point was scored against Auburn. We won every game but one, a 0-0 tie with Georgia.

Has there been a 0-0 tie before or since?

Great find on Auburn's 1914 rout. Here are a couple more noteworthy AU seasons:

Year Coach               Win Loss Tie Pct.    PF  PA  Delta  

1915 Mike Donahue          6   2   0  0.75000 182 24 158
1957 Ralph "Shug" Jordan  10   0   0  1.00000 207 28 179

That's like saying that except for Donahue's next year, the best AU has done in the "skunking" category was the Championship Year!