Barkley quote

[AUlumni99 0]

Barkley is killing me.............

One of the wildcards of the coverage is Barkley, who has consistently said that college athletes should be compensated and that the current athletic system is unfair to student-athletes. Recently, he reiterated such thoughts when asked about Auburn's Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Cam Newton.

"I want to tell Cam Newton's dad: If he only asked for $180,000, he's a bad businessman," said Barkley, "because Cam Newton is underpaid."

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[AURaptor 1,137]

Ha ha, and very funny... but not really.

I just wish Charles would shut up. I really do.

[Justin5 20]

Doesnt really bother me.

Those who think we paid for Cam are convinced its true. Those who dont, dont. No one's opinion will be changed by his quote - and he isnt totally wrong in that the current system is unfair to student-athletes.

[AURaptor 1,137]

Doesnt really bother me.

Those who think we paid for Cam are convinced its true. Those who dont, dont. No one's opinion will be changed by his quote - and he isnt totally wrong in that the current system is unfair to student-athletes.

False perceptions don't need to be built upon and exaggerated. That's exactly what Charles is doing. He could care less about what happens to Auburn ( which isn't to say he doesn't care ABOUT Auburn ). He's got his $$, and his fame, and his life will never be impacted 1 iota.

Until women's field hockey and other sports start paying their way, this system is extremely 'fair'.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

IMO, Barkley is a jerk and was even when he was playing at Auburn. His character paled in comparison to his teammate Chuck Person. I saw him outside the stadium in Glendale before the game. Several in my group asked him for a pic. My wife took the pic but I wouldn't even get in it.

[AUBURNJAC 53]

Doesnt really bother me.

Those who think we paid for Cam are convinced its true. Those who dont, dont. No one's opinion will be changed by his quote - and he isnt totally wrong in that the current system is unfair to student-athletes.

False perceptions don't need to be built upon and exaggerated. That's exactly what Charles is doing. He could care less about what happens to Auburn ( which isn't to say he doesn't care ABOUT Auburn ). He's got his $$, and his fame, and his life will never be impacted 1 iota.

Until women's field hockey and other sports start paying their way, this system is extremely 'fair'.

My problem with your statement is this: Womens field hockey doesn't generate $$$$. Those sports don't sell jerseys and hats and teeshirts and what not like the big sports do. Especially Football in this state. That's like saying the head coach and the water boy should be getting paid the same. I'm sorry but this country isn't communist or socialist (yet), so you are paid what you are worth to this economy. And the economy that drives football are the Tim Tebows, Mark Ingrams, Cam Newtons, Carnel Williams of the world. I do think there is a fine line of who gets paid and who doesn't but look at it like this......

A womens soccer player (or whatever sport) isn't bringing anything to the table when she joins a college (No more than a musician).... A Cam Newton is bringing a LOT of $$$ to the sport. That football player made a commitment to play for Auburn when there were 100 other colleges dying to have his signiture. So, should he get paid since he actually brings something valuable to the table with him? Who knows? Personally, I think that a scholly and free steaks for 4 years is pretty good. But to say a womens lacrosse player should get the same money as a star football player sure doesn't sound fair to me.

Just saying... not arguing with you AUrap.

[AURaptor 1,137]

Just saying... not arguing with you AUrap.

I probably didn't articulate my meaning very well. My POINT is that I'm strongly against football players being 'paid', any more than they are - with scholly, room, board and excellent health care. I do think they should be allowed more freedom to make money in the " off season " , for all schools, but if you pay football players, then you'll have to pay ALL student athletes, and pay them the same. That's just not feasible.

And let's not forget Title IX in all this , which is a colossal cluster doink. I know this is far aside from the original thread, but talk of college athletes being 'underpaid', at any level or in any context, is not what we need now.

[WarTiger 4,014]

Just saying... not arguing with you AUrap.

I probably didn't articulate my meaning very well. My POINT is that I'm strongly against football players being 'paid', any more than they are - with scholly, room, board and excellent health care. I do think they should be allowed more freedom to make money in the " off season " , for all schools, but if you pay football players, then you'll have to pay ALL student athletes, and pay them the same. That's just not feasible.

And let's not forget Title IX in all this , which is a colossal cluster doink. I know this is far aside from the original thread, but talk of college athletes being 'underpaid', at any level or in any context, is not what I want we need now.

+100

I wish barkley would just shut up and go away. He's not helping these situations any.

[AU1941 6]

Chuck's just fueling the hate fire. It's what he does.

[subterranean_jack 113]

Charles is right, except he shouldn't have added the comment about Cam Newton. College athletes should receive some kind of monetary compensation. A scholarship, room, & board is not insignificant, but the financial investment made by Auburn is recouped many times over because of the athlete's performance, yes, primarily football players. And, there is no way all of the 56 players who declared for the draft are ready for the NFL, some of them just need the money. For most athletes, the time put in and the sacrifices made can never be understood by the average fan. A few have a chance at a big reward, but most do not become professional athletes and spend almost the same amount of time preparing that the elite athletes do. How many of you would work a physically demanding full-time job AND go to school for 4 to 6 years without compensation just for the privilege of attending that school. It's a hell of a grind any way you look at it. I don't think giving the athletes a couple hundred dollars a month is too much to ask.

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

Doesnt really bother me.

Those who think we paid for Cam are convinced its true. Those who dont, dont. No one's opinion will be changed by his quote - and he isnt totally wrong in that the current system is unfair to student-athletes.

False perceptions don't need to be built upon and exaggerated. That's exactly what Charles is doing. He could care less about what happens to Auburn ( which isn't to say he doesn't care ABOUT Auburn ). He's got his $$, and his fame, and his life will never be impacted 1 iota.

Until women's field hockey and other sports start paying their way, this system is extremely 'fair'.

My problem with your statement is this: Womens field hockey doesn't generate $$$$. Those sports don't sell jerseys and hats and teeshirts and what not like the big sports do. Especially Football in this state. That's like saying the head coach and the water boy should be getting paid the same. I'm sorry but this country isn't communist or socialist (yet), so you are paid what you are worth to this economy. And the economy that drives football are the Tim Tebows, Mark Ingrams, Cam Newtons, Carnel Williams of the world. I do think there is a fine line of who gets paid and who doesn't but look at it like this......

A womens soccer player (or whatever sport) isn't bringing anything to the table when she joins a college (No more than a musician).... A Cam Newton is bringing a LOT of $$$ to the sport. That football player made a commitment to play for Auburn when there were 100 other colleges dying to have his signiture. So, should he get paid since he actually brings something valuable to the table with him? Who knows? Personally, I think that a scholly and free steaks for 4 years is pretty good. But to say a womens lacrosse player should get the same money as a star football player sure doesn't sound fair to me.

Just saying... not arguing with you AUrap.

They don't get the same money actually. Most of the sports outside of football only get partial scholarships due to the amount of money the sport is given and generated.

In fact even sports like baseball are treated nowhere near as well as football players. Polk that use to coach at Miss State has been fighting it for years. Something like 27 players of the 35 can receive financial aid and then those are only getting 1/3 of a scholarship. Also believe the NCAA racks up the money from the college world series and not the university, least it does get a big share... its not like the bowl games.

Remember reading when I did some research on paying players a couple years ago also that a football player costs a university on average 80,0000 dollars a year to maintain. So don't forget its also a expensive sport to maintain and not all programs make money off their football programs.

I thinks it is kinda of rude to say that other athletes that aren't big 3 bring nothing to the university. Seeing as these are the ones that actually earn degrees from said university. They do everything the others do... training room at 6am, attend class, go to practice, watch film, sacrifice events for practice/games/travel, mandatory study sessions, interact with local youth, participate in charity events and appearance at functions, aid in running sports related camps. To be completely honest I knew several athletes of multiple sports...the ones that brought nothing to the table loved and respected their university and wanted a degree while some of the others viewed it only as a necessary stepping stone to reach another athletic level only.

From a strict money sense then yes, they don't bring much to the table. In the Auburn man/woman sense... often they bring much more.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

I don't think giving the athletes a couple hundred dollars a month is too much to ask.

You don't think they already get that much and more? You been shaking the wrong hands.

[AUlumni99 0]

Personally I think Barkley is full of crap coz the stuff he says always puts Auburn in a bad picture. Is he doing this coz people expect him to mess with the flow? To me, he is NOT an Auburn man!!!

[AUgrad00 7]

People relax he is joking. He is not serious.

But hell the athletes SHOULD be paid.

I would pose this one question how many annoying jerks wearing ugly yellow blazers just made a killing at the expense of Auburn and Oregon and the players on the teams.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

People relax he is joking. He is not serious.

If so, I fail to find his jokes funny so it does't matter. I can tell you from personal encounters with him when he was still playing at Auburn.......he is a jerk!!!

[aubiescottie 1]

I'd like to add an innapropriate joke:

Either Barkley is right or Albert Means' HS coach is a damn GOOD business man.

[WarEagle_57 0]

I either hate or love Barkley. In this case, and everything he's said about Cam, I hate him. And he's completely wrong. At least 100,000 in benefits over 4 years is more than almost anyone can hope to achieve while going through college. Not to mention several of these guys probably would never be able to get into a school as good as Auburn, and might not even try. What football and other sports does for D1 athletes is invaluable.

As for the second part of his comment, I took it as "I think they should be paid, and he's not. Therefor he is underpaid."

[CCTAU 3,494]

Can a student on academic scholarship get a job? Are student athletes on scholarship allowed to have a job?

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

Can a student on academic scholarship get a job? Are student athletes on scholarship allowed to have a job?

academic can get jobs. Student athletes are allowed to get jobs only during the summer session.

[quietfan 233]

Can a student on academic scholarship get a job? Are student athletes on scholarship allowed to have a job?

academic can get jobs. Student athletes are allowed to get jobs only during the summer session.

The most common forms of financial aid--Pell Grants, work-study, federal-secured student loans, etc--are based on financial need and income from outside jobs is supposed to be reported as part of a student's available resources upon which need is calculated. Such additional income would be subtracted from the amount of their need/award when reported (which is not to say lots of students don't pick up part-time jobs/income they don't report to the financial aid office). However, there are strictly academic scholarships based on performance/grades/etc. that are not need based.

Clearly, athletic scholarships are not based on need. I don't know about specific NCAA or individual university policies on athletes working other jobs, but between practice, games, travel, weight room, meetings, etc. and keeping their grades up, most athletes don't have time for an outside job anyway. Even summers are problematic these days when most top programs sort of expect their players to participate in "voluntary" summer workouts.

Athletic scholarships cover the basics--tuition, room, board, books, etc.--but leave little for spending money/pocket change. I've always been in favor of athletes getting paid the same as work-study wages for the hours they spend on the practice field so they can have a little spending money to go out on weekends, take out a date, buy family Christmas presents, etc. If they could get a modest hourly wage for the hours at practice, there would less temptation to sell jerseys, rings, autographs, etc. to get a little pocket money.

I wouldn't be in favor of paying them more than ordinary work-study rates, however, even if the schools do make $$millions off of them. Athletes shouldn't have to be poorer than ordinary students because of their busy athletics schedule, but I don't want college athletics turning into a "professional" system or NFL minor league either.